Generic Boring Mini Mafia - Page 2

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 00:15 GMT

#412

What? These were your only thoughts on GB

On May 18 2015 12:34 Damdred wrote:

GB is kinda weird now though idk what he's doing

On May 19 2015 00:01 Damdred wrote:
Good you now think the towniest person in the thread is town, nice.

Anyeay I don't think GB is mafia just a town

You never explained why you thought he was town.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 00:21 GMT

#414

So, because he has the most posts and they won't team up because "he doesn't play like that" makes him immediately town? Lol. Great basis. You never know he may be guiding it into the hands of the mafia.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 01:52 GMT

#425

On May 19 2015 08:47 sciberbia wrote:

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Dude this doesn't make any sense. If you are town, really think about what you are saying here.

According to premise 1: if Palmar is mafia, then GB has to be mafia. Let's assume that is true.

Now in scenario 2 where Obi flips mafia, Palmar is mafia and GB is town. This is logically inconsistent with premise 1, which states that if Palmar is mafia, then GB has to be mafia.

Like imagine both Obi and Palmar are mafia. Now what you are essentially saying is that GB is mafia if and only if we lynch Palmar before Obi, which doesn't make any sense.

It just seems weird, mafia players that can communicate outside of the thread make it obvious on who they want dead by their voting. GB is hard to pin due to his vote being scum/discussion, now Palmar and Obi, with their posting history and vote timing can seem mafia. I pin Palmar in the middle because if Palmar is Mafia, then GB has to be mafia too due to the consistency in posting votes and timeliness (GB trying a new approach) and Obi just bandwagoning on the vote list. If Obi flips red, it's because he's following the mafia player Palmar which won't seem like much, but in fact it's two mafia players in our face making it seem like GB can be the mafia player.

On May 19 2015 09:42 GlowingBear wrote:

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Let's get this further.

Why?

Because Zealous comes in following the foot steps of one of the mafia players. Shining is still hard to tell since he at least tried to post (but these aren't claims to them being mafia)

On May 19 2015 10:37 GlowingBear wrote:
I think the lynch is around obi/shocker and maybe palmar, I suppose?

Wait, I thought you assumed Obi was Town? why the sudden change against Palmar and Obi?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 01:53 GMT

#426

I forgot to mention, I'm going to watch Mad Max so I won't be posting until after the movie or just in the morning.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 01:58 GMT

#428

On May 19 2015 09:24 Damdred wrote:
Actually its a general heuristic that the person with the most posts or one of the biggest filters and is involved in everything is generally town and shouldn't be lynched day 1. Besides a select few players who are the best at being mafia it is a good general rule of thumb.

I'm giving you excellent advice of how mafia teams generally work, if you get one you do not want to be lined up and super associated or else the entire team will go down in quick succession and the game will be lost.

Also constant re-evaluation and involved in everything is a highly sought after town role, and this is so much town for gb that its not even funny.

You also ignore a lot of points just to make a joke out of a couple of points. You don't even think GB is mafia as you have said so i'm not sure why you are making light of what i'm saying.

Also just to touch on this, I've been pretty active compared to other players. I'm at least trying to sniff out the mafia players compared to others. This is why I find it weird that I target three of the players and all three of them target me.

On May 19 2015 10:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Shockey have you played elsewhere before?

Holy smokes this question again? Have you not read the thread lol... Anyways I'm gone.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 12:41 GMT

#494

I still can't believe you guys don't see the alignment. I called three of them out and then I'm now the next target. If I would have never called them out, I wouldn't be set up to be lynched. Going to lose a very active town.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:04 GMT

#498

What kind of response is that to my accusations against you? Of course because I'm possibly the next one to be lynched, you don't care about defending your scum moves.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:09 GMT

#499

On May 19 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
I have no idea if I actually want to lynch you Spock. I voted you because you quoted a random post from Vivax and said that it somehow swayed you towards me and Obi which was completely retarded.

What? I've been after you since the get go. Did you even read my filters? You were in one of my very first reads, I started to push Obi after that post from Vivax. Vivax apparently see's things for what they are as well.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:11 GMT

#500

On May 19 2015 23:01 Oatsmaster wrote:

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you are not a "very active town", dont kid yourself.

If you assume that associations dont exist, why are they scum?

I've been more active than you have. What makes you assume that they're not scum?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:23 GMT

#503

Wrong game? Cause there's no holyflare here.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:54 GMT

#504

On May 19 2015 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

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THATS NOT A FUCKING LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT MAN.

Also, you have the burden to prove that they are scum, not the other way around.

Your connection/association thing is bonkers, is there anything else behind that?

Check Palmars filter, he mentions who he thinks is mafia:

damdred (joke)
Zealous (removes the idea of it)
Vivax (removes the idea of it)

His shitlist contains:

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

Not one mention of Obi - why? Because he's trying to distance himself from his partner. Palmar voting also explains something different than his posting and reads. He votes for damdred just cause GB, making some kind of connection between them, but as soon as I accuse Palmar (I still didn't vote), his vote instantly turned to me. Now his partner Obi comes along a few hours later and just votes for me too, why? No reason "yoloswag".

Now this post comes off as two ways:

On May 19 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I shouldn't even try to argue: I townread Palmar or back off of him for awful reasons literally all the time and I don't trust myself to read him fairly.

Sounds like another scheme to try and distance themselves in the midsts of me accusing them. Though their voting says something completely different, why vote for me if my reads seem too crazy for everyone?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:32 GMT

#512

What? I don't remember you catching me in anything.

ObiWanShinobi - Scum
Stutters695 - Possible town/mafia
Palmar - Scum
The Shining - Possible mafia
Onegu - null
GlowingBear - Possible town/mafia
Damdred - town
Vivax - town
ShoCkeyy - town
Oatsmaster - town
sciberbia - null
Qwerty! - mia - weird - null
Zealos - Possible mafia

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:48 GMT

#518

On May 20 2015 00:34 Vivax wrote:
Can we get a wagon on Obi within the time I'm away? You going to push it Shockey?

Of course I will.

On May 20 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude you said my list post is just a copy paste of openings when it has way more information in it. You also said it brings nothing new to the table when it was the first post to raise suspicions on sciberbia

And when I show you this, you don't take a step back.

Tell me this: if Damdred IS Mafia, how does it changes your reads?

Ok, what information did it bring to the table? If it raised suspicions on sciberbia, then why has no one talked about him? He's actually been pretty active and seems to be asking the right questions from a town point of view.

Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads.

On May 20 2015 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's not even a case there. It's like...Just a bunch of random things based on me being lazy/casual and trying to sell it as a scumtell.

It is scum in plain sight.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:50 GMT

#519

Just to confirm I was reading it right too before:

On May 18 2015 13:11 GlowingBear wrote:

I never said he is, although he is. Just posting nonsensical scumreads without good reasoning or any reasoning at all

Why does it matter and what do you think of what I've just said?

So I ask again, what information did you bring to the table if they don't have any good reasoning?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:55 GMT

#522

On May 20 2015 00:52 GlowingBear wrote:

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I've showed how WEIRD that interaction between sciberbia and Damdred was. Sciberbia saying that Damdred had good reasoning without when Damdred's reasoning was very flawed was horrible.

"Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads"

Please.
If you guys don't lynch this guy today I will be mad.

But Damdred is town and sci is possibly town too... why does this matter about how weird their interaction was?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:58 GMT

#524

On May 20 2015 00:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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No it isn't?

Confirm? Your posts seem either like a really lazy town or a really really obvious scum, but due to the voting pattern and your posts towards me after I accused you, it's just a mafia member trying to protect themselves.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 16:06 GMT

#528

Damdred defends himself accordingly to how a town would.
Sciberbia is constantly asking the right questions regarding from a town standpoint.

So what they hard aligned in the beginning of the game? That had my views on it too, but it turned out to be nothing.

And I'm positive I'm already a mafia lynch tonight even if I make it pass the lynch. I'm just trying to get out as much info on the mafia players of the game while I can.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 16:16 GMT

#530

On May 20 2015 01:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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I don't know what my voting pattern says about anything.

Me voting you after a bunch of others jumped on you on how your reasoning doesn't make any sense is scummy? How?

The thing was, only one person made mention on how my reasoning doesn't make any sense, that was GB. Palmar followed cause I posted something about Vivax agreeing.

You followed cause? Regarding your posts and voting, it just reads mafia acting as a lazy town

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 16:22 GMT

#532

On May 20 2015 01:12 GlowingBear wrote:

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So what if they hard aligned in the beginning of the game, like GLOWINGBEAR, PALMAR AND OBI, THAT YOU ARE CALLING MAFIA FOR

ARGH.

Town, pls.

Because it was You, Palmar & Obi who went for damdred first when he's obviously a town in the beginning of the game. I called you out because no one did yet and my congruent views didn't please either of you, that's where some sort of mafia alignment can be seen when all of you switched to me.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 16:27 GMT

#535

On May 20 2015 01:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:

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It would imply that I agree with the other people voting you, no?
How do you tell the difference between mafia and lazy town?

Because a lazy town would at least try in the beginning and start disappearing because of inactivity because he's lazy. How ever you posted lazy material trying to look lazy. Want to know what a lazy town looks to me? Qwerty, dude just hasn't even tried to read the thread or maybe he has, but that's a lazy town.

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