EPTOn May 26 2015 22:18 batsnacks wrote:
idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels?
idk BF what if everyone is an SK and we all targeted Rels?
I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is!
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I'm just saying that I don't get why you go that hard on "THERE IS NO SK". I think there is! | ||
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On May 26 2015 22:31 Barakos wrote: As batsnacks and I said - stop talking about sk please and focus on important stuff. Well if SL is SK and we all agree on "there is no SK" it wouldn't be the most intelligent move to kill someone next night, would it? So we can all just vote bunnies now. ##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies | ||
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On May 26 2015 22:33 batsnacks wrote: Okay so, yes, TECHNICALLY there could be but it is unlikely. The reason I'm going hard on the THERE IS NO SK thing is that in most mafia games, someone would scumread you for this highly speculative role speculation. It makes you look like you are distancing yourself from the much more probable and relevant discussions happening in the thread, which is technically scummy. It's the same with speculating about masons. Town gains very little from speculating about roles it usually helps mafia more than town, so best practice is usually to not talk about it until someone claims. I understand that perspective, didn't think of it. I still think though that connections between roles are the most reliant way to find out about someone's alignment. Connections lead to decisions that are supported by more than one player, thus providing a way to nail someone on something. I want to discuss my theories and speculations rather openly since I want to help in a constructive way. | ||
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##unvote ##vote Bill Murray I'll be soon enough here to unvote BM if he responds in a good way. I'd like to see a bit more pressure und Sulfuras. If you guys decide to pressure me in the meantime, be sure that I'll check the thread before EoD, roughly one hour before. Seeya then. | ||
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On May 27 2015 04:29 Tictock wrote: @27nb What do you think about my last post regarding plots? I agree about BF, he seems to be sheeping the popular opinion today. I also really don't like him looking for masons. Like he seems to be thinking it would help town to know who is masons so we have more confirmed town. Yet his possible masons are all people largely being townread, so how is that thinking helpful? Which is wrong, I already pushed disinformation which was not popular at all, starting EoN. Also, I explained thoroughly why I voted for Sicklucker. Then, being sick of the SK discussion, I voted on bunnies without having my own follow up on other people's read. Can't do much about you not liking me trying to identify masons. I feel like with one scum member down, a mislynch becomes very possible. So I really want to gain any information I can get on who is most likely a town member. You are generalizing the mason thing, thus leaning me towards scum. Do you have any more reasons to do so beyond the ones I already replied to with this post? Why are you holding me scum for apparently sheeping a popular vote when you are not doing the same for disformation, who still has to reply to some pressure and changed his pushing pattern from day 1 to a lurker pattern today? He already admitted to rather accept a random coinflip then potentially(! note, potentially. chances were not above 50% in my opinion) having a train on himself? Please explain that. Gonna skim through your posts later. I'm reading you town but I didn't pay too much attention on your posts alone yet. | ||
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##unvote ##vote 27ninjabunnies | ||
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On May 27 2015 16:12 sicklucker wrote: Who would disinofs partner be? one of the rethinkers right? boxer and me are less likely mafia for not voting bm.That leaves just barakos maybe bats as his partners. Not sure if he pushes his partner bunnies but its possible Your logic is flawed: if 27nb and BM are both town, the vote on bunnies is not containing any proof for the voters being townies. I hate to potentially put a bad light on myself but that's how it is. | ||
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On May 27 2015 07:34 plotspot wrote: Okay, maybe it’s time we talk about this now. I have received a visit from the RB on N1. I have no idea who did this but, it must be someone who thought I might be scum and checked on it with his night action on N1. Who the hell might do that? That would explain the no vigi/no sk kill in night 1, wouldn't it? | ||
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On May 27 2015 16:56 sicklucker wrote: Thats a pretty wissshy washy answer. For one bm was more inactive then bunnies. And realistcly if you dont lynched inactives that is pro mafia because it leaves inactives around for end of game lynches. Now that bm flipped town do you not see the logic I was providing that explained why he was town? Can you link us to your scum game Barakos, if you're so worried about not lynching inactives, why didn't you push on someone more actively and stayed in your lurker role? | ||
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On May 27 2015 17:00 sicklucker wrote: only if theres 2kp tonight. And even then theres other possiblitys. (held shot) Thinking about a sk is pointless because its so unlikely I really need to stop it then. All mafia (/werewolf) games I played in real life had the roles announced pre-game, so you'd clearly know what roles are in. I'm really used to that. | ||
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On May 27 2015 20:48 disformation wrote: Yeah. I get the feeling that I am swayed too easy. My waffling is really bad this game, too. Should try harder to eliminate these aspects from my play. -.- At least my pushing is a bit better than last game, imo. Semi-present... trying to reevaluate some stuff. If you have questions axe me some.  As I said before, you're pushing people rather fast, you back off rather easily. I think the one you pushed hardest was me, forcing my rather long reply that made you back off again. Since you stopped your pushing attempts, I didn't see you do much for town. You're playing so safe, jumping the most likely train without being too sure. I mean, if you're so sure of both 27nb and BM being town, why wouldn't you unvote them? You were around short before EoD if I remember correctly. Of course this is not indicating that you're scum. But it indicates that you're playing very defensive. Why? | ||
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On May 27 2015 22:20 Breshke wrote: Boxer what about bunnies? I want her to be the lynch tomorrow. What do you think about that? I like the approach. She responded to the push by blaming BM who flipped town. She did not really reply to what was brought up against her. Also, I have no alternatives, so pressuring her is a good thing. | ||
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On May 27 2015 22:23 Tictock wrote: @BF The whole SK thing was some tinfoil hat theory that I liked too much and took seriously. I suggest we go back to ignoring it until we at least find more scum. I get your thinking on Dis, but to me that's just a sign on him being a new player and not being sure of his own reads. You could probably make this argument about me, but I like pushing what I see pretty hard. Lets for a moment put aside our thoughts about Dis and SL. Who are you fairly confident is town? Where do you think we should look for scum in our shortening list of players? I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. | ||
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On May 27 2015 22:40 boxerfred wrote: I wouldn't put that aside as fast as you do it. Changing a posting pattern is a serious thing. I get your "he's new" approach but I think you forget that dis is very conscious of posting patterns, he mentioned my pattern in a post. He must know that posting patterns are quite telly and he even took it in account when he was pushing me. So I at least want to know why his pattern changed so much. Any info, disinfo? I am fairly confident that Breshke is town. Can't tell for sure of course but his posts are very reasonable. He's taking his time to argue and he's very fair towards people, decently pushing at the same time though. I held batsnacks for town (also because he read me town basically all the time) but that might just be him pocketing me. I don't have a read on you, tictock, and feel like you should be under some more pressure or at least give some info on what your current reads are, now that BM flipped coin. I think putting SL aside at least until EoN is a good thing. We have no new clues thus far and he's fairly active, arguing in a weird but relatively reasonal way. Seems to have stopped yolo'ing. When it comes to scum, I'm still holding the 27nb and SL torch, throwing a bit of disinfo into it. | ||
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