Newbie Student Mafia X - Page 11

On May 25 2015 19:55 batsnacks wrote:
SL what do you think of baraka? Maybe something other than that you green checked him.

On May 25 2015 20:05 boxerfred wrote:

Okay I can see that. Also, his usage of smileys really seems to not be based on the intention of a post so I take that as granted. I moved away from the scum lean already anyways but I don't think I'll drop the SK lean. I have to reread the sicklucker things, it's really confusing (since I can only quickscan the thread today until like 7-8 hours from now on).

As I understood it, people want to start a train on either sicklucker or bunnies. Having such a clear train for two different persons, started by two different persons, I'd say that the cop actually hit a scum member this night and wants to get that guy lynched without indicating who he himself is. Is that a far fetched theory or could that be the truth?

On May 25 2015 20:43 disformation wrote:


This part is not entirely true. His read progression on me is:
1) cheap town read.
2) scum after he asks for my reads
3) does his fail vote on me you quoted
4) unvotes / unscums me after skimming my filter and votes scott

So that looks legit. The problem I have is:

So he would have tried to lynch me (who he previously unscumed)? Though I could have still been null to him or something. Apparently he has some problems figuring me out, which might be the reason for that...

I am going to try and figure out all read progressions by sicklucker now... which might take a bit. His filter is really long.

On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:



Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker

On May 26 2015 08:02 boxerfred wrote:
I think I'll take breshke, batsnacks and tictocs as masons, at least two of them are. Their thoughts and votes seem to go down the same road most of the time. I read a lot of the sicklucker stuff by now but need to dive in deep into the last ~5 pages since I returned home not too long ago and am going to sleep after this post. I'm not too sure if I like the bunnies train since I'm still on the "dis is leaning towards sk" road. Also, I don't get too many of sicklucker's posts, they are kind of confusing and they imply that one needs to be more experienced to fully understand those short sentences in depth.

Skimming through disinfo's posts, I don't really see a point from which I would start a train on him. I might be wrong with my lean on him. However, I'd like to clearly know what he thinks about pretty much everyone - especially where he would locate scum members and SK. As I can see from celestial's post, he's currently all about jumping trains, matching the pattern of jumping the scott train before: first, he goes for sicklucker, being the 3rd vote at this point (I did not compare timestamps, so it might be the second vote, note that please!). Then, he changes his vote, being the 4th to jump bunnies.

That is not really matching his gameplay of putting pressure on people until a train is started on them.

For reference, final vote count of day 1:



Going for Sulfuros first, then jumping a train that will most likely kill the guy, thus saving his vote.

I'd like to point out that initially, batsnacks and tictoc voted the same on scott rather early, which strengthens my mason theory, putting Breshke on a neutral lean for me. However, both batsnacks and Breshke have a town read for me if I'm right. Coming to a conclusion of my theories, I'd say we have to search for scum members among sulfurus, bill murray and maybe sicklucker (mentioning him since I can see why he's being blamed but I think his posts make sense (if I understand them correctly) and bunnies (for named reasons). I'd locate the SK at disinfo and maybe SL.

It's all too wonky at this point. I delayed my vote for a long time last day already, but this time, I'm putting my vote on sicklucker rather early. He's jumping people rather often, voting batsnacks, BM and then bunnies, following batsnacks who he voted upon before. That's three guys, with him, four. Four in a span of a few hours? I take that as a vote that is cast knowing the alignment of at least one of the three guys he voted upon. Given that he unvoted two times, it might very well be that he's a scum member knowing about the identity of a fellow scum member. Which would, following my mason theory, point to bill murray being scum.

Not sure how bullet proof that theory is, please fire at it to see how long it holds.

##vote sicklucker

On May 24 2015 18:41 Barakos wrote:
The votes on scott mean just about nothing.

27nb asked if people thought there was mafia voting for scott shortly before eod... there sure was.

People said scott rolled mafia in several of his newbie-games and wasn't very happy about this, so I am pretty sure his scum-partners in the qt knew this, too.
So there might very well have been plans about voting him, if it becomes apparent, he will not return to the thread. Him not returning and posting as less as possible might even have been the plan right from the start.
Which is also why what bm said about scotts post making him look good is complete bs since this might as well have been a planned breadcrumbing, which a scum-bm could later on use by saying "look, he tried to make me look bad and he was mafia, so i must be town". Just look at the scum-qt of assassination-mafia. bm is perfectly capable of hatching such a plan and scott - already not excited about having rolled scum - would have happily followed, since he wouldn't let his team completely hanging.

I guess all i am saying is, that we can't really interpret anything into scotts posts, because him leaving the thread and giving up is most likely a thing, he discussed with his teammates, so there surely was a plan about how he should behave in the few posts he made, which is why everything he said could be interpreted one way or the other.

On May 26 2015 09:31 Breshke wrote:


Can you pls read stuff. It says SK can hold their shot if they want to. You cant 100% rule it out