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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:29 GMT
#1161
I'd like that list. I simply can't understand your read progression on me as it is nor your read on LS.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 16:33 GMT
#1162
Vivax could well be scum though. It's his tendency to be rather useless as scum and that's what he's being like here.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 12 2015 16:38 GMT
#1163
I can't wrap my mind around the "I'm going to be bad so my scumgame is better" thing.

Vivax had this moment of self-awareness when I wanted him to do stuff, and he seemed a little annoyed that I expected lots of things from him.
Retired.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 12 2015 16:41 GMT
#1164
##give 10 posts to Rsoultin

Finishing catching up, what the fuck was that pardon?

Sorry about my absence.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 12 2015 16:42 GMT
#1165
On May 13 2015 01:09 Half the Sky wrote:
46/60

GlowingBear -

1 Xatalos

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 06:43 Half the Sky wrote:
22/60

Xatalos is looking like playing to his scum meta. In Carol both (town) GB and Vivax cased him and a central point they had on a scum Xatalos was how murky his reads were in justifying his switches. GlowingBear in particular stated that Xatalos didn't have deep reads on people.

I get the same impression here from the reads he's made so far.

On May 12 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up


Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)


I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?


Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)


Hehee. It also works well as an excuse precisely because it's true

Don't really know Palmar that well. He's been pretty light-toned and active from what I saw so maybe a slight town lean?

I think jat was more proactively leading discussion in the other game (Ippo). So far he's seemed a bit too nitpicky and reactive to my liking... Might be scum, I guess. We'll see.

I've had little success reading marv in the past. Last game (Ippo) I also thought he seemed a bit disinterested / detached, but he was town all the same. I'd strongly oppose lynching him D1 just based on some vague feeling when he has the potential to almost single-handedly figure the game out.


Also whilst LS didn't really impress me early on, I also don't think Xatalos had an original stance on LS and the quote he uses to substantiate his read on LS is also pretty shaky. At least a few people mentioned the conditional wording that LS had in his opening posts.

On May 12 2015 02:46 Xatalos wrote:
Thanks for the attention Damdred I'm sure my early posts were a bit more in line with my scum meta considering the post restriction (-> less posts than usual) and already being in another game that's approaching endgame (-> even less time / attachment to spare to another game, admittedly my own fault for signing up). I'm now mostly caught up, though, so ask away.

What struck me as most scummy so far is probably LS. I just can't get over the uncomfortable feeling I get from posts like these:

On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?


It's just... so typical scum play. Posting large, inconclusive paragraphs and questions that don't really show any insight or real interest in the game.


LS generally isn't one to be articulate but at least in this particular paragraph he does reach some conclusions on two people from knowing "LS speak" for lack of better words. But he's also made conclusions on people in other posts.

So at least looking through Xata's filter, I've got a decent scumlean on him.

Need to AFK atm.


2 Vivax

I call Vivax out for doing jack all about 20h or so into the day.

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On May 12 2015 01:23 Half the Sky wrote:
11/60

[...]

Vivax on the other hand has done jack all, and his scum meta (as is Yamato's, though I'm less certain on him for activity) is doing jack all. So why Xata over him?


When Vivax DOES appear in thread, his posts show a scumlike behaviour.

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On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote:
16/60

[...]

My stance on Vivax remains the same. Though he's posted, now that he's being called out, it's posts like these that give me the impression he's posting for the sake of posting.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=710&topic_id=484076

It's pretty obvious going into Ras's filter why she does this, it also shows no part on his end searching for information that would determine her alignment.


Above quote on Rasputin gets nowhere, plus if you look at Vivax's filter there is zero followup.

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On May 12 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote:
40/60

[...]

Like what about his posting his town? I thought I asked to elaborate before. Because the tanking his game is the worst part about Vivax and posts like these from him

On May 12 2015 03:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna play badly this game btw, but it will help my scum play. Sadly it was one of the things that made rayn quit.


On May 12 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote:
Rso no that much of a pita in this game, what's going on? Actually explaining her reads all the time not just interfering with other people's.

Might be she's aiming for the townie of the month award but then that's what's odd about all of that.
Also she seems particularly attentive to stuff adressed to her, also feels unusual.

Metatonish read, not the rso I'm used to who was always the townie one.


On May 12 2015 06:00 Vivax wrote:
LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia?


...are basically him just posting to post - no follow through on Rasputin whatsoever if he truly suspected her.

[...]


The above quote I tried to illustrate to sandroba what I found wrong with Vivax. But that should make it a bit more clear.

1 The quality of his posting doesn't reflect credible scumhunting in any manner.
2 Trashing his town meta (his excuse for his current play) isn't credible after the fact.

And at LightningStrike:

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On May 13 2015 00:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred why you shoot BM when we just had him pardoned by GB and the fact we have multiple people that look worse than BM?


FFS you aren't reading. RTFT please. Damdred answered this twice over in the last two pages.

Now I'm out.

Tbh I disagree on using it on a mislynch and would rather hit scum with it because honestly it's better hitting scum than town that is a mislynch. Tbh he shoulda used it on a scumread but it's his call.
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 12 2015 16:52 GMT
#1166
Thing is I'm not as sure that bm was 100% town. It was a policy shot ues, would I of lynched him today probably not id of rather went with my other targets.

Would he of been lynched today without the pardon yes. Would he of been lynched tommorow yes no matter what.

You might disagree but when it comes to people I can lynch and having pre-setup lynches that's not good at all gives mafia two rounds of night kills while we rehash the same things. Now we get a lynch today bm is dead and we get new stuff tommorow.

you might think its suboptimal but its not as horrible as you and RS make it out to be.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 12 2015 16:52 GMT
#1167
## Give 5 posts to Rsoultin

Just so I can see her rage some more.

Some more hearts. She is still scum though.


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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 12 2015 16:53 GMT
#1168
On May 13 2015 01:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 01:09 Half the Sky wrote:
46/60

GlowingBear -

1 Xatalos

On May 12 2015 06:43 Half the Sky wrote:
22/60

Xatalos is looking like playing to his scum meta. In Carol both (town) GB and Vivax cased him and a central point they had on a scum Xatalos was how murky his reads were in justifying his switches. GlowingBear in particular stated that Xatalos didn't have deep reads on people.

I get the same impression here from the reads he's made so far.

On May 12 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up


Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)


I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?


Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)


Hehee. It also works well as an excuse precisely because it's true

Don't really know Palmar that well. He's been pretty light-toned and active from what I saw so maybe a slight town lean?

I think jat was more proactively leading discussion in the other game (Ippo). So far he's seemed a bit too nitpicky and reactive to my liking... Might be scum, I guess. We'll see.

I've had little success reading marv in the past. Last game (Ippo) I also thought he seemed a bit disinterested / detached, but he was town all the same. I'd strongly oppose lynching him D1 just based on some vague feeling when he has the potential to almost single-handedly figure the game out.


Also whilst LS didn't really impress me early on, I also don't think Xatalos had an original stance on LS and the quote he uses to substantiate his read on LS is also pretty shaky. At least a few people mentioned the conditional wording that LS had in his opening posts.

On May 12 2015 02:46 Xatalos wrote:
Thanks for the attention Damdred I'm sure my early posts were a bit more in line with my scum meta considering the post restriction (-> less posts than usual) and already being in another game that's approaching endgame (-> even less time / attachment to spare to another game, admittedly my own fault for signing up). I'm now mostly caught up, though, so ask away.

What struck me as most scummy so far is probably LS. I just can't get over the uncomfortable feeling I get from posts like these:

On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?


It's just... so typical scum play. Posting large, inconclusive paragraphs and questions that don't really show any insight or real interest in the game.


LS generally isn't one to be articulate but at least in this particular paragraph he does reach some conclusions on two people from knowing "LS speak" for lack of better words. But he's also made conclusions on people in other posts.

So at least looking through Xata's filter, I've got a decent scumlean on him.

Need to AFK atm.


2 Vivax

I call Vivax out for doing jack all about 20h or so into the day.

On May 12 2015 01:23 Half the Sky wrote:
11/60

[...]

Vivax on the other hand has done jack all, and his scum meta (as is Yamato's, though I'm less certain on him for activity) is doing jack all. So why Xata over him?


When Vivax DOES appear in thread, his posts show a scumlike behaviour.

On May 12 2015 05:12 Half the Sky wrote:
16/60

[...]

My stance on Vivax remains the same. Though he's posted, now that he's being called out, it's posts like these that give me the impression he's posting for the sake of posting.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=710&topic_id=484076

It's pretty obvious going into Ras's filter why she does this, it also shows no part on his end searching for information that would determine her alignment.


Above quote on Rasputin gets nowhere, plus if you look at Vivax's filter there is zero followup.

On May 12 2015 23:18 Half the Sky wrote:
40/60

[...]

Like what about his posting his town? I thought I asked to elaborate before. Because the tanking his game is the worst part about Vivax and posts like these from him

On May 12 2015 03:39 Vivax wrote:
I'm gonna play badly this game btw, but it will help my scum play. Sadly it was one of the things that made rayn quit.


On May 12 2015 04:49 Vivax wrote:
Rso no that much of a pita in this game, what's going on? Actually explaining her reads all the time not just interfering with other people's.

Might be she's aiming for the townie of the month award but then that's what's odd about all of that.
Also she seems particularly attentive to stuff adressed to her, also feels unusual.

Metatonish read, not the rso I'm used to who was always the townie one.


On May 12 2015 06:00 Vivax wrote:
LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia?


...are basically him just posting to post - no follow through on Rasputin whatsoever if he truly suspected her.

[...]


The above quote I tried to illustrate to sandroba what I found wrong with Vivax. But that should make it a bit more clear.

1 The quality of his posting doesn't reflect credible scumhunting in any manner.
2 Trashing his town meta (his excuse for his current play) isn't credible after the fact.

And at LightningStrike:

On May 13 2015 00:58 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred why you shoot BM when we just had him pardoned by GB and the fact we have multiple people that look worse than BM?


FFS you aren't reading. RTFT please. Damdred answered this twice over in the last two pages.

Now I'm out.

Tbh I disagree on using it on a mislynch and would rather hit scum with it because honestly it's better hitting scum than town that is a mislynch. Tbh he shoulda used it on a scumread but it's his call.


Though tbh its really weird that you are so sure that bm was a mislynch... Like really really sure
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 12 2015 16:55 GMT
#1169
Was happy with the pardon as I didnt think BM was scum. Not happy with the shot.

LS is giving me hebbie jeebies. Like he isnt posting on like scum reads and stuff much. He is just re going over the large points in the game. Would lol at a rsoul - LS scum team.

Why everyone so angry? Cant we all just get along?

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Think Im going to now put hearts in all my posts...
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 12 2015 16:55 GMT
#1170
Ls is more than likely scum now, if you look at his past games you see a ton of hesitation about his reads. Especially on kinda meh people like bm was.

Here he is just extra sure that bm is a mislynch no hint of paranoia that he could of been scum, which he could of been. Its just to sure of someone's alignment that he should t be.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 12 2015 16:56 GMT
#1171
On May 13 2015 01:52 Onegu wrote:
## Give 5 posts to Rsoultin

Just so I can see her rage some more.

Some more hearts. She is still scum though.


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Rso is probably not mafia.
Retired.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:00 GMT
#1172
On May 10 2015 09:05 Onegu wrote:
Im Town GRUMBLE GRUMBLE... My previous 46% is taking a hit. Im not happy about this one bit...


On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!!


Tbh I think Onegu *is* actually soft claiming Traitor here. "Not happy about being town", "I want to be scum".... Even with the actual word "Traitor" in there. It's pretty blatant, yeah, but it would make sense to be somewhat obvious to get the scumteam to notice you. I think he just went slightly overboard there while doing that.

On May 11 2015 05:13 Onegu wrote:
@ TalkingDead Traitor is totes in this game... Read OP, but I cant be it because I didnt read hapas post...


Then there's this... Basically he's defending himself using the argument that he was too stupid / didn't think when posting that. It just feels off that he would specifically defend himself using the "dumb" argument. I get the feeling that he planned it out and was preparing to use that defense just like this after fulfilling the purpose of signaling the scumteam.

He's also not really interested in figuring the game out at all. He's just wasting his N0 posts, continues wasting his D1 posts (giving some shallow reads and one-liners like going through the motions, but otherwise nothing noteworthy)...


On May 13 2015 01:52 Onegu wrote:
## Give 5 posts to Rsoultin

Just so I can see her rage some more.

Some more hearts. She is still scum though.


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His most recent post showcases the lack of interest in anything useful, even going so far as to push scum agenda (simultaneously wasting his posts and fueling the fire/chaos in thread).

On May 12 2015 08:08 Onegu wrote:
I really doubt a scum BM would fire to nukes.


Weird defense of BM? I really don't get what this is supposed to mean. Unfortunately we apparently can't know BM's alignment anymore.

On May 12 2015 00:16 Onegu wrote:
Ok so here is why Trfel is town. The way he tried to nuke back immediatly looks townie. Like I have a feeling that scum would already know there are nukes in the game, and the way he did it makes him really townie to me.

Lol @ Marv. Such a shit read on me, I want to roll scum and the fact that I used 3 !, just confirms the fact that I wanted to be scum or able to be scum.

People saying BH should be lynched for TMI is also terrible, If I had a anti nuke I would have stopped it also. Also marv saying it is bad to stop it right away is odd. Like what info are you expecting to get? I feel like this is more blue hunting, maybe finding out who has more anti nukes.

<3 GB for the defense but it was such a shit read you get no points from me for now.

Why is Rsoul getting town read so hard so fast. I know she can look really townie but Im not seeing it. She seems almost lazy to me. Her reads arent that intense either. I know she never has confidence in her reads but still they are normally stronger. Seems soft to me. If she rolled scum and I didnt Im going to be upset. Since this isnt a PM game here is my mandatory non town read on her <3.

I really want to see if BM's second nuke goes off. I think I would find it weird if he can fire 2 nukes in one day.

LS seems less active than I am used to also. Maybe its just a post restriction game.

Yamato could be mafia, see what he does today since he doesnt work. Would be funny if hapa troll rolled him scum.

Could totally sheep Palmar, He is playing and he catches dem scum.

Still have a few filters to read but these are my thoughts off the top of my head.



Also really no one else is wondering how we are in ancient rome and there are nukes going off? I mean srs...





This is pretty much his biggest contribution to the game. Pretty... inconclusive / weak. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the only thing he did so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:03 GMT
#1173
I think Onegu is pretty certainly a Traitor. Everything fits, from the Traitor breadcrumb to his lack of interest in doing anything remotely related to scumhunting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 12 2015 17:04 GMT
#1174
On May 13 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Ls is more than likely scum now, if you look at his past games you see a ton of hesitation about his reads. Especially on kinda meh people like bm was.

Here he is just extra sure that bm is a mislynch no hint of paranoia that he could of been scum, which he could of been. Its just to sure of someone's alignment that he should t be.

He was to trigger happy to be scum and actually looked townie in my eyes and I had played with BM before once but it was a somewhat inactive game (Student VIII) and again I hated his early play stuff there too so he most likely town.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2015 17:05 GMT
#1175
People being "happy with the pardon" because "they didn't think BM was scum" are missing the point entirely. It's not about saving someone who you think is town. The point is that YOU might be wrong. The MAJORITY OF PLAYERS who were voting for him might have been right.

Literally the ONLY saving grace was the fact that it was done with ample time to find a suitable replacement lynch. But that doesn't make the action any better or the reasoning for doing it any more reasonable. It just means that it didn't completely fuck our day up entirely.

I've been considering a sandroba lynch, but I'm not about that life so much. I kinda agree with marv's post on the matter, plus I feel like as mafia he just sorta doesn't play. That leaves me with players like Stutters, Vivax, Xatalos for the lynch. I think of the three, I prefer Vivax or Stutters.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 12 2015 17:09 GMT
#1176
Much more comfortable with that than LS...

##Unvote
##Vote Onegu
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
May 12 2015 17:09 GMT
#1177
Although Xatalos in here Traitor hunting looks bad too. Whatever.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 12 2015 17:09 GMT
#1178
Vivax seems like the most cut-and-dry lynch just because of how straightforward his meta is. He had one good post that I liked and has completely dropped off since then.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 12 2015 17:10 GMT
#1179
On May 13 2015 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Although Xatalos in here Traitor hunting looks bad too. Whatever.


What's wrong with traitor hunting?
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 12 2015 17:10 GMT
#1180
On May 13 2015 02:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Vivax seems like the most cut-and-dry lynch just because of how straightforward his meta is. He had one good post that I liked and has completely dropped off since then.

Yes. Absolutely.
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