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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:32 GMT
#1415
On May 13 2015 08:29 TalkingDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:26 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:08 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 13 2015 07:54 Trfel wrote:
I don't see what is so impressive about Vivax's posting as of late. His posts don't feel like they have any direction or focus, and he isn't elaborating on his main scumreads. He's pushing reads all over the place, but nothing is very well explained or detailed. Furthermore, Vivax is going to be away for a while, so there will be no more information with which to read him.

This is a good point. Leading up to the lynch, thread sentiment is steered roughly equally between Xatalos and Vivax. When Marv starts his push towards BH, votes still split roughly equally between Vivax and Xatalos. Despite Marv and Sandroba giving a less weight and push towards either Vivax or Xatalos and thinking they both may be a bit more likely to be town. Votes from the Vivax wagons disappear disproportionately faster. This can in part be attributed to Vivax being around and posting, but there were numerous people other than just Marv/Sandroba saying essentially that Vivax is posting better. Yet when you compare this situation to an exceptionally similar situation in Imperial, where Vivax went off the fucking deep end and was making series of huge posts repetitively. The wagon just disappeared in a strange way without any realisitic recognition of his posting. That's interesting.


Then go and find the people who went off me in a scummy way, cause as I see it there's nothing inherently scummy in not wanting to lynch me.

There's not time for that and it doesn't matter this late in the day. It is in no way about trying to find "the scum that unvoted their partners." It doesn't make you scum and it doesn't make Xatalos town. It's the asymmetrical shift that's interesting, both in the sense that people are more willing to move off you and that people are less willing to move off of him. What is interesting about your response is that you've ignored my point about Imperial entirely to pick at the corners of the point I'm trying to make.


I think we all kinda know what's going on here. A lot of people moved off of Vivax as soon as there was a lynchbaity wagon (my wagon) to move onto. Wagons that fall apart easily like this in non-PM games tend to be wagons on scum. I think Vivax would be an acceptable D1 lynch, but I actually haven't read his filter or his case. I'm basing this entirely on the fact that Vivax is a really good town player with heroic tier reads and pushing ability, and I haven't passively just NOTICED that he's playing well, which is what I'd expect from him

So Xatalos isn't lynch bait? You're lynch bait?


I'm obvious lynch bait. Look, JAT and Rsoultin have personal animus against me, so they're always gonna vote me (no matter what they say about cases or what not). As I said before the game, I'm not available during the first 24 hours of D1, and people didn't see the beauty of the work I did based on N0. Although I used my powers to good effect during the first half of today, Bill murray was pardoned then shot so we don't get a flip, and the people I've saved for some reason have rationalized that I'd do this as mafia (ಠ_ಠ) so here I am.

Everyone knows I have shit D1s as town where It ypically claim Blue, then N1/D2 I ramp up. People have different opinions on how skilled I am, but we all know that's how I play. I actually used my abilities REALLY well when I REALLY wouldn't have to do that as scum. And sure, I was legit straight up sheeping Palmar, but when Sandro did the townie thing I unvoted him because I'm actually trying to solve the game. Am I a snarky asshole about it? sure, yeah, that's me. But I'm going over my post limit and risking getting modkilled and banned because winning is more important to me than anything else. If I get lynched this game, I will fight, and I will fight hard enough that afterwards you will ALL look like MORONS for lynching me

and in the post game, I will call you bad.

and you will deserve it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:33 GMT
#1416
On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/434275-tl-mafia-lxiii-time-to-die?user=Blazinghand&view=all

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/431052-hogwarts-mafia?user=Blazinghand

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads


"blazinghand is scum cause he's inactive and not giving reads. blazinghand, if you die, it's your fault"

*I start giving reads and playing*

"blazinghand as scum can be active and give reads you guys"

##unvote
##vote yamato77
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:35 GMT
#1422
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:36 GMT
#1426
OK, so in terms of major reads, I think:

Marv is probably town, but if he's not shot in a day or two, look into him
Sandro is definitely town for researching me

Vivax scum for not being town vivax, who is an hero
And... let's say, Yamato scum for not having real reasons

Damdred, I'd like to hear about your motivations for voting me.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:39 GMT
#1433
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:40 GMT
#1438
##unvote
##vote vivax


looks like I get to live after all! :D

I wonder how many posts I'll be allowed to make if I'm not mked
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:41 GMT
#1440
On May 13 2015 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.

no it's "lynch BH because he's not trying to find mafia"

"look he's posting things that are not finding mafia"

"look he posted a case on a >20 post player, he's still not trying to find mafia"

"look he's defending himself like he does as mafia"


bolded is something you didn't say, scummato
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:43 GMT
#1445
hahaha rsoultin cry all you want, I get to LIVE! You said you'd try to get me lynched no matter what in the next game D1, and guess what? you fuckin failed

I hope you're scum

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:43 GMT
#1446
On May 13 2015 08:42 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:41 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:40 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:39 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:36 yamato77 wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:35 Blazinghand wrote:
On May 13 2015 08:01 yamato77 wrote:
last game, BH actually tried and made a little tryhard case and everything

this game he's used his role and bitched

he is not town

On May 13 2015 08:30 yamato77 wrote:
*links*

for anyone doubting scum/not town BH's ability to fight a lynch/be active/give reads



So... what's the deal here yamato? Do you actually have a reason for lynching me? I think it's pretty obvious what's going on here, and anyone listening to you on townreading you should be seriously questioning the yamato townread

you gave ONE READ

on FUCKING BATSNACKS

probably in the bottom 3 in terms of # of posts

not impressive


So, this isn't an actual objection given that I've like, had a fair number of contributions, even if they're not literally that enormous case on Damdred I made that last game that was so long I got lynched because people didn't read it. Also, all of this is dodging the issue, which isn't how I've been playing....

it's about how your heuristic doesn't make sense. "lynch BH becasue he's inactive" is fine, but saying that WHILE saying "Bh being active is a thing scum bh does" says to ME that you aren't trying to hunt scum, because your throught process isn't progressing naturally.

no it's "lynch BH because he's not trying to find mafia"

"look he's posting things that are not finding mafia"

"look he posted a case on a >20 post player, he's still not trying to find mafia"

"look he's defending himself like he does as mafia"


bolded is something you didn't say, scummato

you're arguing fucking semantics instead of providing reads

whatever, you're still mafia, even if marv is bad and doesn't have the balls to lynch you

lynching viv is whatever, hero plays needed to be made and weren't zzz


what, you don't think the scumread on you is a read? also literally you said I'm scum for not posting, then I'm scum for posting, so yes, I am arguing semantics, because yes, you are acting very strange
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:44 GMT
#1449
On May 13 2015 08:44 Hapahauli wrote:
Vote Count:


Vivax (11) - LightningStrike, Trfel, GlowingBear, BlazingHand, Marvellosity, Xatalos, Half The Sky, KelsierSC, TalkingDead, Justanothertownie, Oatsmaster,
Xatalos (2) - Vivax, LightningStrike
Rsoultin (1) - Onegu
Palmar (1) - RebirthOfLegend
Sandroba (2) - Palmar, Batsnacks
Oatsmaster (1) - GlowingBear
BlazingHand (5) - rsoultin, Sandroba, Yamato77, ObiWanShinobi, Damdred,

until lynch!

BlazingHand is set to be lynched!




WAT WHY AM I SET TO BE LYNCHED WTF STOP THIS WHOEVER IS DOING THIS I HATE YOU 5 EVER
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:45 GMT
#1450
dang it, I gotta do the whole death reads thing becasue apparently I'm getting lynched no matter what. hold on I gotta filter dive brb
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:45 GMT
#1454
oh haha i'm living ok being lazy instead
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:46 GMT
#1458
On May 13 2015 08:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm never voting with marv

##Vote: BlazingHand

Bye

do you seriously still think i am mafia??


clearly you're mafia because I, also mafia, saved you
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:47 GMT
#1463
On May 13 2015 08:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:43 Blazinghand wrote:
hahaha rsoultin cry all you want, I get to LIVE! You said you'd try to get me lynched no matter what in the next game D1, and guess what? you fuckin failed

I hope you're scum



71/76

o.0 that was a joke?

dude you have no sense of humor lol >< i told ls i'd never defend him again and multiple people i'm policy lynching them every game, yet i never actually do it?

god you're an idiot lol ><


i may be an idiot, but, like you, i'm an idiot who's not getting lynched today so I'll settle for that. also i'm gonna stop posting to not raise the wrath of mods
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:48 GMT
#1467
On May 13 2015 08:45 Trfel wrote:
Does anyone want to switch to KelsierSC?

The only reason that I think he is town is meta and activity. Meta being that he was very aggressively poking at people earlier, but in his town games he tends to townread people early (this is uncertain, though, since I did not find a scum game of his where he posted early in the game).

His reads have changed with seemingly little reason and his focus has been on the wrong things. I find it hard to see his reads coming from a town mindset.


Even trying something this awful makes Trfel town btw
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:49 GMT
#1469
not that I think KSC is town btw
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:51 GMT
#1476
oh vivax has like, a decent chance of being town, I just need to live so I'm totally down with lynching him
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:58 GMT
#1485
On May 13 2015 08:53 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 08:51 Blazinghand wrote:
oh vivax has like, a decent chance of being town, I just need to live so I'm totally down with lynching him

HOW DID WE NOT LYNCH THIS GUY

SERIOUSLY?!??


oh come ON, I think we all know the real reason I'm voting Vivax, which is that the alternative is voting me. Nobody will listen to me about you, so I'm saving myself. People in my situation like to pretend the counterwagon is a good wagon, because it helps them sleep at night when they lynch a fellow townie to save themselves, but I am not so dishonest with myself, or the thread.

We all know I voted vivax to save myself as the primary reason for the vote. Get over it.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:58 GMT
#1489
I'm down for a rso lynch, damdy, but it's only you and me who have played enough with her to realize she's scum this game
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
May 12 2015 23:59 GMT
#1493
On May 13 2015 08:58 Trfel wrote:
This doesn't look like mafia Vivax being lynched.

I remembered that Blazinghand did that weird thing at the start about scum not knowing who was on their team Night 0. He did nothing at all to discuss the potential implications of this or truly analyze them, and he didn't seem to have this included in any of his reads.

yeah cause everyone says that my system (Which works, btw) isn't correct. IF people don't believe the underlying system, my extrapolations of the system are non-relevant.
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