Assassination Mafia! - Page 3

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 04:47 GMT

#934

Hello guys I had caught up and people are now wanting to policy lynch BM even though I think he's town for the fact he's to trigger happy to be scum with his nuke o.o Also people are suspecting Xata(His filter looked okay but I can be convinced that he's scum if someone can case him pretty good) now too along with Oats(He seems lazier than Office Mini and Void when he was lazy town) plus BH(Which I kinda agree with some of the thoughts from others about BH regarding his content regardless of his power). rsoultin is getting extremely angry at Onegu since Onegu is being a pain in the butt to her... Also GB looks very townie atm and I pretty sure he will catch scum very fast like he did in Carol :O
@KSC: Yes I actually do have High Functioning Autism I did tell you that I think in our latest game together when you or someone joked around using Autism as a insult -_-
@Bill Murray: Don't feel discouraged man I believe you are town and I want you to prove to everyone how you are town!

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 05:11 GMT

#944

On May 12 2015 14:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay -_- clearly i'm doing something wrong if everyone and their brother is scumreading me -_-

that like never happens

i could just beat you over the head gb with the idiocy of me being your pretty scum team's chosen buss but whatever. i'd rather hear where your scumread comes from, frankly -_-

I don't think you're scum o.o

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 05:12 GMT

#945

On May 12 2015 14:07 Trfel wrote:
Actually.... RebirthOfLeGenD just ninja-voted (well, he explained it like 12 hours ago).

Why is he present enough to vote in the voting thread, but not to read/post in this thread? I heard justanothertownie say that he can be extremely lazy as town, can someone confirm if this is true? Otherwise I could very easily lynch him.

I will check Rebirthoflegend meta regarding how lazy he is town compared to scum in the morning.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 13:38 GMT

#1062

Palmar I think Sandroba is town since he did nothing at all the last time he was scum with me in JOAT except for a shitty cop check shannie trying go for a double bus on me and Sandroba and this game he been doing lots of analyses so I believe quite frankly he's town. BTW I will take a look at RebirthofLegend's meta and see if it matches what people said of him being lazy as town.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 13:51 GMT

#1067

On May 12 2015 22:44 Half the Sky wrote:
35/60

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Read pages 51-53 of the thread, and specifically sandroba's responses to TD, myself, JAT, etc.

We're not having a problem with his activity this game. It's his read progression.

I sometimes have weird read progression myself so sometimes townies have that issue. Although I do agree about something about bats when he's scum: He's a lurker based on Aperture when he was scum.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 13:52 GMT

#1068

Okay so Rebirthoflegend can be lazy as both alignments he generally more lazy as town than scum but you wont be able to tell to later part of this day phase or Night 1/Day 2 area so he isn't the best lynch today.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 13:52 GMT

#1069

On May 12 2015 22:46 justanothertownie wrote:

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Since when are you so abrasive towards LS? Wtf is wrong with you?

He was abrasive the very first time I played with him Metal.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 13:54 GMT

#1072

On May 12 2015 22:53 justanothertownie wrote:

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Maybe, but since then he was your biggest fan. This is really out of character.

It is a little out of character I don't know if it's alignment indicative or not.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 15:58 GMT

#1147

Damdred why you shoot BM when we just had him pardoned by GB and the fact we have multiple people that look worse than BM?

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 16:00 GMT

#1149

On May 13 2015 00:58 TalkingDead wrote:
I'm going to take a nap. I'm going to place my vote on Vivax. Palmer told me he was a 1.5 of the sexy scale and I've heard that he's nailed at least 1 scum team solely based on that. He also told me that if he weren't straight, that he would totally let me get in his pants. I don't think I believe him about that. He's never even had sex so I don't think he even knows what he would like.

He was refering to XXX which was a sex flavored game when he the lower rating poeple were mostly mafia except for 1 person (Prplhz).

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 16:05 GMT

#1153

On May 13 2015 01:02 Damdred wrote:
You can't be serious ls just isn't reading the thread.

Ugh dude we have Xata who people don't like, Oats, and Vivax all 3 of them are scumread by the majority and yet you choose to shoot BM because he would stagnate the thread? That just terrible reasoning......

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 16:42 GMT

#1165

On May 13 2015 01:09 Half the Sky wrote:
46/60

GlowingBear -

1 Xatalos

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On May 12 2015 06:43 Half the Sky wrote:
22/60

Xatalos is looking like playing to his scum meta. In Carol both (town) GB and Vivax cased him and a central point they had on a scum Xatalos was how murky his reads were in justifying his switches. GlowingBear in particular stated that Xatalos didn't have deep reads on people.

I get the same impression here from the reads he's made so far.

On May 12 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:

On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:

On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up

Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)

I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?

Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)

Hehee. It also works well as an excuse precisely because it's true

Don't really know Palmar that well. He's been pretty light-toned and active from what I saw so maybe a slight town lean?

I think jat was more proactively leading discussion in the other game (Ippo). So far he's seemed a bit too nitpicky and reactive to my liking... Might be scum, I guess. We'll see.

I've had little success reading marv in the past. Last game (Ippo) I also thought he seemed a bit disinterested / detached, but he was town all the same. I'd strongly oppose lynching him D1 just based on some vague feeling when he has the potential to almost single-handedly figure the game out.

Also whilst LS didn't really impress me early on, I also don't think Xatalos had an original stance on LS and the quote he uses to substantiate his read on LS is also pretty shaky. At least a few people mentioned the conditional wording that LS had in his opening posts.

On May 12 2015 02:46 Xatalos wrote:
Thanks for the attention Damdred

I'm sure my early posts were a bit more in line with my scum meta considering the post restriction (-> less posts than usual) and already being in another game that's approaching endgame (-> even less time / attachment to spare to another game, admittedly my own fault for signing up). I'm now mostly caught up, though, so ask away.

What struck me as most scummy so far is probably LS. I just can't get over the uncomfortable feeling I get from posts like these:

On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff

Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around

I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.
@Marv: What are your current reads?
@Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread?

It's just... so typical scum play. Posting large, inconclusive paragraphs and questions that don't really show any insight or real interest in the game.

LS generally isn't one to be articulate but at least in this particular paragraph he does reach some conclusions on two people from knowing "LS speak" for lack of better words. But he's also made conclusions on people in other posts.

So at least looking through Xata's filter, I've got a decent scumlean on him.

Need to AFK atm.

2 Vivax

I call Vivax out for doing jack all about 20h or so into the day.

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When Vivax DOES appear in thread, his posts show a scumlike behaviour.

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Above quote on Rasputin gets nowhere, plus if you look at Vivax's filter there is zero followup.

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The above quote I tried to illustrate to sandroba what I found wrong with Vivax. But that should make it a bit more clear.

1 The quality of his posting doesn't reflect credible scumhunting in any manner.
2 Trashing his town meta (his excuse for his current play) isn't credible after the fact.

And at LightningStrike:

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FFS you aren't reading. RTFT please. Damdred answered this twice over in the last two pages.

Now I'm out.

Tbh I disagree on using it on a mislynch and would rather hit scum with it because honestly it's better hitting scum than town that is a mislynch. Tbh he shoulda used it on a scumread but it's his call.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 17:04 GMT

#1174

On May 13 2015 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Ls is more than likely scum now, if you look at his past games you see a ton of hesitation about his reads. Especially on kinda meh people like bm was.

Here he is just extra sure that bm is a mislynch no hint of paranoia that he could of been scum, which he could of been. Its just to sure of someone's alignment that he should t be.

He was to trigger happy to be scum and actually looked townie in my eyes and I had played with BM before once but it was a somewhat inactive game (Student VIII) and again I hated his early play stuff there too so he most likely town.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 18:03 GMT

#1204

On May 13 2015 03:01 rsoultin wrote:

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On May 13 2015 02:54 Xatalos wrote:

On May 13 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
62/76

fine. i'll play ball, but only because i think there might be some random townie out there similarly incapable of reading

my read progression on you isn't strong because my read on you isn't strong. i was sheeping damdred as a townread who has demonstrated in the past that he is much better at reading you than i am. my filter makes that clear a million times over, which is why i know you're not reading ^^ oh, that and you've shown an amazing ability to not read entire posts of people who are in the thread talking with you at the time

you may think it's cute to sheep ksc's awful read, but i don't. he sits here and changes his mind based on little then thinks it's scummy for others to? a "180" on someone you don't have a strong lean on in the first place is not a "180" and if either of you genuinely believe that you're imbeciles ^^

as for ls...

On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:

On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:

On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.

On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.

Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?

ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch

let me make this really, really simple for you. i have a tendency to read ls town. i'm aware of it. but him going out of his way to collect meta on anyone is usually a sign that he's town, and that he specifically said "and then i'll report back!" is specific phrasing i've only seen him use as town. could he imitate it, and could i be wrong again, sure. this is a lean. as in a WEAK read

any more questions as to why reads that i say are weak or leans are "weak"? cause this is a stupid push

Dunno when I have called your reads weak or actually pushed you? You could try reading yourself. I just said that your reads were near impossible to understand and that you might be scum for that and your convenient read progression on me (basically adapting to thread sentiment all too well).

You wouldn't be my preferred lynch today by far though.

I guess you might have your own way of reading LS, but it hardly warrants calling my read on him trash. It's mostly gut feeling, I admit, it's just that I've rarely gotten such a spider sense of someone being scum just from their all too vague / fluffy posting style.

63/76

this is literally the last post i'm wasting on this discussion. literally. the last.

no you did not specifically use the phrasing "weak". you implied it. you implied my read progression doesn't make sense and called me scum for it. that is pushing me. perhaps we define it differently, but you are pushing suspicion in my general direction, a suspicion i might add that is practically word-for-word the same as ksc's...one of the patterns damdred was talking about about you iirc

nor did i call your read on him "trash". i didn't like that it was THE ONLY thing you were pulling from the thread. ls could be scum. statistically and based on my light read he's more likely town, and he is an ALL TOO EASY mislynch, so you focusing on him and ONLY him is not a good sign for you, xata

of course i'm not your "preferred" lynch today. i'm never getting lynched today, and certainly not for this nonsense. congratulations, though ^^ i'm almost at the point where i feel comfortable voting you based purely on my own read, mr. parrot. i'll readdress when i'm not as irritated -_-

(Cuddles) Don't let Xata be mean to you about your read on me.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 21:40 GMT

#1300

I can be convinced to switch to Xata if you can tell me he's mafia and you're not.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 21:41 GMT

#1301

On May 13 2015 06:40 Vivax wrote:
I'm really good at reading him. Last time he was mafia I scumread him D1 and nobody lynched him. FML. But he conceded at endgame. I think it was Carol.

Indeed it was in Carol.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 21:49 GMT

#1306

On May 13 2015 06:44 Half the Sky wrote:
52/60

I need to stop posting, really need to conserve for EoD/night. But this is where I stand.

Where I stand on my null/scumreads:

The policy vote category
Batsnacks, Stutters, ROL (all lurk as either alignment)

Null
Trfel (town to null based on the fact he's been out of thread too long. Could use more insight on reads other than Vivax/Onegu.)
Onegu (Very torn on this one. I'm seeing both scum and town tells in him with tone. I don't consider activity in of itself indicative.)
VE (I honestly have no idea how to read him. Nothing is screaming scum to me but would like to see how he's so sure on Stutters.)

Under review but never the lynch tonight
Palmar (Nothing seemed off at first glance but he has tricked me as scum. Will need to re-read.)
KelsierSC (Can't follow logic easily, but I know from Void and even Titanic, this is possible for his town play. Will need to re-read more closely)
Sandroba (not sure I'm understanding his reads, probably doesn't make him scum, but need to review D2)

Scum lean
LS (Called out on not reading the thread twice, most of his last meta diving has been null reads)

Probable Scum
Blazinghand (I said before I don't like how his role actions to speak for him, not seeing anything in the line of scumhunting, even in Titanic 7 he did that eventually. Unlike Damdred or GB in this respect.)
Oatsmaster (Dodging questions, the reads on Sandroba were horrible)
OWS (Main issue is the read on Vivax. Townreads him for a pretty bad reason and then "prepares" to scumread him again to try and fit in. Eventually votes him. Others have mentioned this too.)

Lynch it with fire
Xatalos (Loose/murky reads, positions on Rasputin are contrived at best. Case on page 58.)
Vivax (My case is on page 58. Inactivity first 20h of the game, excuse of trashing town meta is not credible, pointed questions with no info followup, the reads on marv and myself are contrived)

Voting Xatalos now, pref him or Vivax lynched.
Will compromise with the town circle/reads with a vote on Blazinghand, Oats or OWS if it spares any other reads.

You realized that sometimes I skimped out to much regardless of my alignment? Also RebirthofLegend is much easier to read later on by meta and so is stutters.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 22:02 GMT

#1315

On May 13 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
68/76

<3 was hoping to get a response back from marv

but i'd be happy to lynch bh lol >< viva isn't acting like a scum about to be lynched imo

Thoughts on Xata?

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 12 2015 22:14 GMT

#1322

On May 13 2015 07:04 Damdred wrote:
She won't lynch xata because I pushed him and she's upset with me

I just checked her filter and she didn't really speak much on what alignment she think Xata is and would prefer her to explain her exact position on Xata right now(The post I saw of her thing about Xata was she might end up voting him but who knows). Anyways I going to vote Xata I think KSC's case on him and other people's thoughts on him are pretty solid and would allow Vivax to live for another day just hope he will step it up.
##Unvote
##Vote: Xatalos

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 13 2015 00:55 GMT

#1511

Just got home and for some reason Vivax ended up getting lynched over Xata or BH............ Well it seems like shenanigans happened when I was gone and HTS hammered Vivax. Also to answer Yamato there was a better case by KSC and others on Xata over BH at least in my mind but next Day Phase I can go for either a Xata or a BH lynch. Also thanks for your response and hopefully you can talk more later if someone gives you more posts.

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