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On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.
btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.
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i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
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On May 11 2015 22:13 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:09 sandroba wrote:On May 11 2015 22:01 KelsierSC wrote:Sandro, can you explain something to me. On May 11 2015 07:20 sandroba wrote:
@damdred any comments on what I've said about TD? I feel that I made a pretty strong point. And regarding about me saying what other people stated I'm reading the thread for the first time and I've shared my thoughts. I don't think anyone else has adressed the issues I've adressed in quite the same way and if somehow I've missed it and they share my feelings I'm glad that they do. I'm kinda on the fence about you because you've said so much, but I can't help but feel like a lot that you've said doesn't make much sense/ doesn't add up/ looks like fake content. It might as well be that you are town producing huge amounts of BS to try to look town, which I don't think is a particularly good strategy, however the way you've adressed the suspicions saying acting scummy was all a part of a plan I'm having a hard time buying into.
The person I feel most strongly about is TD and I would like you to share your thoughts on him/ what I've said about him. On May 11 2015 05:59 sandroba wrote:
@LS this post was by talkinghead if you cared to read, but maybe my formating is not the best. Anyone who read it will know that I'm very suspicious of both TD and damdred. I didn't say anything about GB in my posts but if you must know I think GB is town. On May 11 2015 10:14 sandroba wrote:
GB is my top town read so far, pretty much every single post he's made I agree with. I believe any questioning pointed towards him at this point is just a waste of space and we should be talking about TD and damdred instead. so here you are suspicous of damdred, calling him scum want to talk about him , then earlier marv had said this On May 10 2015 20:17 marvellosity wrote:
hey Kels. Why does anything you say about TalkingDead make him mafia, deary?
This postcount thing making people just list reads feels really weird :p I have Damdred as towny and GB as scumweird for calling him mafia and not a lot else just yet. and followed up later with On May 11 2015 20:43 marvellosity wrote:ok, so just read through the loltastic nuke + anti-nuke. I don't really get why people let this sort of thing slide. Also if BH was going to anti-nuke the nuke, I don't know why he did it so soon, it seems really information-restrictive. Essentially it means we should by lynching BM. On May 11 2015 13:10 Bill Murray wrote:
TalkingDead
Oatsmaster
HalftheSky
I've read all three of you pushing suspicions my way
When I bag scum with this (Trfel was super active last game, and is literally just skimping by posting to not put his neck out there this game) I want you all to bow down to me.
##Nuke: Trfel BM being BM or not being BM, the bolded reasoning is just nonsense. Game's barely started. Why launch the nuke so soon? There's no reason for it. Time and time again in Ver games mafia are forgiven for really terrible in-thread plays on the basis it's too terrible to be scum. Except it's just ballsy yolo with the expectation of not being punished. Giving posts unannounced to Damdred was also very weird. tldr; terrible shot based on terrible reason, no sweepy under carpetty pls. I don't think this is a town nuke. ##Vote: Bill Murray
Random other things - sandroba looks better than other games lately, reads are more indepth, also I like performing a sexy naked dance while his eye is on me My early damdy read good readTalkingDead lynch bad lynch On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote:
Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!! Onegu may be mafia, the multiple !!! seem really OTT and follows up with this random post directed at a bunch of people with no meaning behind it in response to this post you say On May 11 2015 20:50 sandroba wrote:
@marv I agree with all your points (BM, onegu, damdred), but I'm having a hard time with the TD town read so if you could go into a little more detail maybe I can be convinced and get over it. The only thing that actually gave me pause was that he insinuated something that I think damdred caught onto as well. meaning you agree that dam is town now, i'm not really sure where this sudden change came from. Then you said you agree with the point marv raised on dam but all he said was that he called him town earlier , it wasn't really a point as to why damdred is town. It would be good if you could flesh this out because it seems like you are contradicting yourself just to read dam as town. I changed my mind on damdred quite some time ago and have said so already. I was saying that I agree with some of his reads, but I would actually like him to elaborate on something because I have a really bad feeling about his posting so far. His reads all seem very shallow and direct, he doesn't seem to be considering other angles, is very dismissive, disconected from the game like he doesn't really care about the outcome and lacking emotion I usually see in his games as town. Not sure if I really answered your question, but I was really trying to get something out of marv without getting on his face to see how he would interact with me. So far I'm displeased. hmm ok I guess that makes sense, the question to marv part. what made you change your mind about damdred, the thing I saw was that if you were wrong about TD then you would feel better about damdred, so did you change your mind on TD? or is my reading just bad and you just feel better about damdred regardless. i'm referring to this post. Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 12:20 sandroba wrote:
If I'm wrong about this TD thing, which certainly I'm considering, I think Oats and yamato both look quite bad. I'm feeling better about damdred already. if so can you explain what changed your mind on damdred then
Mostly his posting after I started accusing him. I don't think it's important to expand on why I feel damdred is town right now, because no one wants to lynch him. Either way you rsoul and gb (maybe even damdred lol) are my top towns so far and I'd rather we all focus on other people.
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On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.
I know BM is silly but I don't think this point you make makes him more or less mafia. I think a town would like to justify his actions when pressure is on him just as much as a mafia. I don't understand how you are so sure about this. I can understand and share the feeling of wanting to lynch him regardless just so he doesn't get away with this as mafia and I feel like a tard for letting it happen, but having seen BM's town play I deffinitely think it's just as much possible for him to be town in this spot, no matter how absurd his actions and reasons are.
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On May 11 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
Why are you reading me as town?
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On May 11 2015 22:28 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
Why are you reading me as town?
Idk, you don't really sound like a bitch and you really are a bitch when you're mafia.
Oh you weren't asking me were you?
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On May 11 2015 22:27 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it. I know BM is silly but I don't think this point you make makes him more or less mafia. I think a town would like to justify his actions when pressure is on him just as much as a mafia. I don't understand how you are so sure about this. I can understand and share the feeling of wanting to lynch him regardless just so he doesn't get away with this as mafia and I feel like a tard for letting it happen, but having seen BM's town play I deffinitely think it's just as much possible for him to be town in this spot, no matter how absurd his actions and reasons are.
can you show me him doing this like this as town?
because i know i can find him doing it as mafia
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On May 11 2015 22:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 11 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
Why are you reading me as town? Idk, you don't really sound like a bitch and you really are a bitch when you're mafia. Oh you weren't asking me were you?
No. Bitch.
Tell me once you've already caught up with the thread, I'd love some thoughts from you.
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##vote BM
Why is my defence of you suprising marv?
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You don't have to argue with scumdroba marv. You don't have to do this anymore...
I will always remember you....
No one's gonna bother you anymore
No one's gonna mess with your head no more
I can't understand what all the fightin's for
But it'll so nice there down off the shore
I'm glad you will see this
'Cause there's nothing to see
It'll be peaceful there and it's fine without me
Not like the world where you used to live
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On May 11 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:27 sandroba wrote:On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it. I know BM is silly but I don't think this point you make makes him more or less mafia. I think a town would like to justify his actions when pressure is on him just as much as a mafia. I don't understand how you are so sure about this. I can understand and share the feeling of wanting to lynch him regardless just so he doesn't get away with this as mafia and I feel like a tard for letting it happen, but having seen BM's town play I deffinitely think it's just as much possible for him to be town in this spot, no matter how absurd his actions and reasons are. can you show me him doing this like this as town? because i know i can find him doing it as mafia
Not exactly this, but every time I play with him as town I remember him doing something so bad I couldn't wrap my head around. If you could link me to a game where he did something similar as mafia it would definitely help me.
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On May 11 2015 22:37 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:30 Palmar wrote:On May 11 2015 22:28 GlowingBear wrote:On May 11 2015 22:20 KelsierSC wrote:
i realise i'm nearing post limit so going to summarise.
but firstly
##unvote
##vote Bill Murray
because random nuking trefl, getting overly defensive when someone calls them mafia for it, and then nuking that person is just so horrendous he is scum and should get the fuck out of the game.
aside from that
town
HTS
GB
Dam
RS
VE
BH
Marv
Sand
Palmar (don't why, just like him i guess)
would lynch
BM
TD
Xat
JAT
LS
Vixax, Stutters, RoL and other AFK's
everyone else is pretty null to me
Why are you reading me as town? Idk, you don't really sound like a bitch and you really are a bitch when you're mafia. Oh you weren't asking me were you? No. Bitch. Tell me once you've already caught up with the thread, I'd love some thoughts from you.
I'm not really even reading the thread. The current activity in the thread is entertaining enough.
I'll find mafia at some point.
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On May 11 2015 22:38 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2015 22:27 sandroba wrote:On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv
honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it. I know BM is silly but I don't think this point you make makes him more or less mafia. I think a town would like to justify his actions when pressure is on him just as much as a mafia. I don't understand how you are so sure about this. I can understand and share the feeling of wanting to lynch him regardless just so he doesn't get away with this as mafia and I feel like a tard for letting it happen, but having seen BM's town play I deffinitely think it's just as much possible for him to be town in this spot, no matter how absurd his actions and reasons are. can you show me him doing this like this as town? because i know i can find him doing it as mafia Not exactly this, but every time I play with him as town I remember him doing something so bad I couldn't wrap my head around. If you could link me to a game where he did something similar as mafia it would definitely help me.
Mm. Looking at the database I misremembered, he had this one game as Injustice vigi but it wasn't the same. Maybe there's a game missing because my memory is usually good for these things
in any case your defence seems to be "BM is batshit insane" which as defences go is probably the one best applied to BM out of anyone in this game. But i still don't understand the town argument for how he did what he did, whether he's crazy or not.
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BM meta is usually he's really fucking bad when he's mafia and he's really fucking bad in a more insane way when he's town.
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To elaborate a bit on the sandroba thing:
On May 11 2015 05:36 sandroba wrote:
marvellosity's intro is another one that I found pretty meh as well. I would expect more inquiries from him, maybe all condensed into a single post to adapt to the post cap. Instead I found nothing besides a read that I dissagree with. I'm going to keep an eye on him.
Sandroba can only lynch one person today. Judging by that post he is not sure about marv's alignment which is a perfectly okay stance to have at that point in the game. But why is he then announcing that he's keeping an eye on marv? Wouldn't the list of people he's keeping an eye on be a laundry list of people he doesn't have a townread on yet, and even if that wasn't the case, why announce his intentions to marv if marv happens to be mafia. Wouldn't it be better to just actually keep an eye on him without specifically mentioning it.
Basically the only people the post actually targets is the people in the thread who now should think "Oh sandroba is trying to find out marv is scum, cool".
In the scenario where marv is actually mafia sandroba is essentially warning him that he's going to be checking him out, which just seems like a terrible idea if you're town trying to find mafia.
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Every time I say something the thread dies.
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On May 11 2015 09:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2015 09:37 LightningStrike wrote:On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote:On May 11 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote:On May 11 2015 08:12 GlowingBear wrote:
It's a shame veterans are too afraid to be the n0 kill and not contributing at all
Anyway I've already out of posts so I'll be waiting for dawn JubJub list: Obi Bats GB Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid. Yo what gives?  @BH: Why am I town? you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/ can we lynch marv now? Why you think Marv is scum? because the king of town is neither very kingly nor very townie 
I know what you are doing if you are town but you need to keep in mind that this is a heavily post restricted game. This could be really counterproductive.
On May 11 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
Btw if Trfel flips town we lynch BH for TMI and if he flips mafia we lynch BH for saving scumbuddy.
In conclusion we lynch BH.
You want to lynch BH for saving a townie. What...?
On May 11 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
in any case your defence seems to be "BM is batshit insane" which as defences go is probably the one best applied to BM out of anyone in this game. But i still don't understand the town argument for how he did what he did, whether he's crazy or not.
The relevant question here is: Is scum BM also batshit insane? I know he is as town. This nuke has to be the worst scumplay 2015 if he is mafia.
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Kelsen, can you please tell me what is your updated read on LS?
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What on earth happened between those posts?
On May 11 2015 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:
I think in the next tier. Sandro, JAT, Xat were ok so need to read them again and make a judgement.
On May 11 2015 20:38 KelsierSC wrote:
I want to see a lot more from him and expected more so leaning scum for now
On May 11 2015 13:11 KelsierSC wrote:
not sure why TD won't answer my initial questions, pretty sure he is mafia.
- did things I didn't like early game, the yamato as top town, the town-town business.
- very contradictory big list post, talks about GB like he is mafia then says it's town-town between dam and gb
- calls me town with "terrible reads" but he shared the majority of my reads, wouldn't explain this
- generally obstructive
- when he does explain it felt like an over explanation and he was twisting quotes to fit his narrative , too much information gleaned is what it felt like
- wants us to talk about other people without giving his own opinion of them.
Half of those arguments are points in his favor.
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On May 11 2015 23:24 Palmar wrote:
Every time I say something really dumb the thread dies.
fixed it for you.
I wouldn't mind killing jat either.
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