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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 11 2015 20:45 GMT
#729
On May 12 2015 05:41 Half the Sky wrote:
19/60

EBWOP - at Vivax, also saying "fuck you bh" after he anti-nuked BM isn't helping your credibility atm.

JAT - what is your current DNL list?

Vivax - If you're not scum, then tell me who is.

Also regarding the recent BH nuke, I think it's a towny action, though I'm with Rasputin - explain what you thought of Trfel as you were saving him, or if you really saved him off a tone read?

Or even better, looking at him now, do you regret saving him?


Why? He doesn't think if the nuke is worth it he just anti nukes and does nothing else. Same thing as with the previous nuke.

If I had that role I'd have everyone who is getting nuked at least pray to me as their god and saviour. AND IN LATIN. And then I'd still decide if they're worth being nuked.

He's playing it anti-fun and in super serious, super unsuspecting manner. So I don't think it's townie.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 11 2015 21:00 GMT
#736
LS I'm sort of confident you're town and I'm a pleb, why do you think I'm mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 11 2015 21:55 GMT
#777
HTS why did you abruptly stop the convo with me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 18:23 GMT
#1212
This is the game where I successfully broke my town meta. Gonna do some work still.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 18:30 GMT
#1215
On May 13 2015 00:16 Half the Sky wrote:
44/60

Never mind you ninjaed me Damdred.

Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 00:05 Damdred wrote:
Xata should be the lynch yes, he's my top suspect and I was pretty sure that I could push the thread that way in an ordinary fashion with how many posts I have etc.,

It does suck that no alignment will flip, that's why I didn't shoot one of mu scum reads early and used it on a policy. If we catch a couple of mafia I believe that we will be able to determine if bm was mafia or not. It sucks but tommorow would of been dominated by bm talk again.

And you can pretend to not understand why I did it but it makes sense


The problem here is - whilst I am also convinced Xatalos is mafia - there are a load more people willing to vote Xatalos/Vivax. You'd have gotten a scum down for sure with Xatalos/Vivax and gotten more information about the subsequent vote.


Why does this post make no sense?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 19:34 GMT
#1219
Anyway I got Kelsier and sandro as more of firm town. BM I think is/was town too. Marv, Xata, HTS in the scum pool and by virtue of reading what sandro said Palmar can be mafia as well.

These are people I would lynch.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 19:35 GMT
#1220
Oh and I forgot JAT. Rso can go to townish pile for now but didn't read carefully yet.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:06 GMT
#1274
I'm VT aka plebeian, you aren't losing much (besides I'd have to be afk the next 1 and a half/two days cause I go camping with a bunch of other people for a birthday party)

You know my reads, I don't explain them much, and that's fine cause I've been trying to hard as town in the past.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:07 GMT
#1278
Many are like "low activity, disjointed posts" and shit and that's gonna be a lesson that meta sucks when people want it to suck.

Btw marv why unvote me?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:08 GMT
#1282
On May 13 2015 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
viv y u so trash


Why not "y u so mafia?"
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:10 GMT
#1286
On May 13 2015 06:09 yamato77 wrote:
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On May 13 2015 06:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 13 2015 06:07 yamato77 wrote:
viv y u so trash


Why not "y u so mafia?"

is this your appeal where you try to prey on my willingness to believe that you're actually this stupid?


I don't know why you so mad? Who lost a lylo recently and who pinned the correct scum there?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:13 GMT
#1290
On May 13 2015 06:12 justanothertownie wrote:
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On May 13 2015 06:07 Vivax wrote:
Many are like "low activity, disjointed posts" and shit and that's gonna be a lesson that meta sucks when people want it to suck.

Btw marv why unvote me?

Well, gj playing against your wincon then if this is true. Fortunately it probably isn't.


Constructive post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:21 GMT
#1292
Hope at some point people will notice how HTS is just affirming things and pushing her "scumreads" but avoids interacting, in this case, with what I said. I pointed out earlier how she didn't try to engage me in a conversation and I don't see that answered.

Overall the one thing I see myself doing as scum is pick lynches and push them, and try to get a stance on important stuff. What ends up lacking in that case is the part of trying to figure out things. The play is more deterministic so to say and that's about the feeling I get from HTS posts.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:24 GMT
#1293
Xatalos is also very very likely mafia. Same pattern as above. This post gives me the same vibe:

On May 12 2015 03:42 Xatalos wrote:
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On May 12 2015 03:31 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:22 Xatalos wrote:
On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up


Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)


I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?


Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)


Hehee. It also works well as an excuse precisely because it's true

Don't really know Palmar that well. He's been pretty light-toned and active from what I saw so maybe a slight town lean?

I think jat was more proactively leading discussion in the other game (Ippo). So far he's seemed a bit too nitpicky and reactive to my liking... Might be scum, I guess. We'll see.

I've had little success reading marv in the past. Last game (Ippo) I also thought he seemed a bit disinterested / detached, but he was town all the same. I'd strongly oppose lynching him D1 just based on some vague feeling when he has the potential to almost single-handedly figure the game out.


Ok so aside from those three where are the rest of your reads to the actives in the game at least?


Let's see.......

Not sure about rsoultin. I think someone said it well when they said "reading her posts gives me brain cancer". She seemed somewhat similar to the other game (Ippo) though so maybe town?

sandroba I think is probably town. He was just abysmal in the other game (Ippo) as scum and he seems to have put in plenty of effort here. The difference is so big that I'd even go as far as call him strongly town for now.

Trfel gave me some of the same uncomfortable feeling as LS (fluffy posts and questions etc.), but less severely. Might be worth looking into but I think LS would be a better lynch atm.

You feel somewhat towny so far being pretty "sharp" and focused (I mean for example focusing on me like that and not in a way to push a mislynch, felt more like actually interested in my alignment). Town for now I guess.

KSC has been pushing stuff pretty aggressively so maybe a town lean?

If I didn't mention someone it's probably null or nothing special just happened to come to mind.

Left Vivax and TD off specifically because I'll need to look into their filters next.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:30 GMT
#1295
As for JAT you will notice he commented on marv's list as being ok but apparently the only viable lynch on it is me, as reinforced by his later play. There is no real interest in Oats and Xata even though he seemed to agree with the entire post, here:

On May 12 2015 22:16 justanothertownie wrote:
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On May 12 2015 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
Seen it been mentioned a few times, but I think BH is a pretty terrible lynch, certainly anyone saving me from a nuke I am not going to vote for today.

Three people who I think are good lynches, other than BM:

Vivax - somehow when I read his posts last night they didn't seem *too* uninteresting. So I was left feeling a little town from it. But in the end, they led nowhere, game has been going on quite a while now, not enough to hang my hat onac

Oats - promised GB he'd try properly this game. I don't really remember his posts.

Xatalos - he's boring. that's enough.

I'm not very sure about my earlier Onegu read. I read Onegu + rsoultin arguing last night when I was pretty baked and I couldn't work out what the fuck was going on. Anyone have any bright insights?

This list seems ok. Vivax has vanished again - would absolutely lynch.
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On May 12 2015 19:10 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:00 TalkingDead wrote:
Yes. Can we add RebirthofLegend to said list?

We can, ish, but I think that verges a little more into policy, maybe.

Is it really a policy lynch to kill people who have 8 posts about nothing interesting that offer nothing of note and more than likely will continue said trend? Because I call that modus operandi.

He's a far worse offender than Palmer. At least Yamato has some interesting posts.

I think RoL would be a better vig target. No way to discern his alignment based on what he posted.
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On May 12 2015 20:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 12 2015 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 12 2015 20:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, you asked me questions, never followed up. You said my read on BH is good, but it didn't change your vote, nor created interest in you to pursue more information on him.

Can you give more inputs about this?
Let's lynch BH?
Would you lynch Oats?
What did you make of my answer?

dude you arent fucking lynching me again day 1 for no reason.

Ok lets lynch Xata then.

100% scum.
Im not even kidding


I'm not lynching Xata.

Let's lynch BH?


We are not lynching BH. What reason is there for you to not lynch xatalos? I won't even start to comment on that pardon.
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On May 12 2015 21:34 sandroba wrote:
I would like to lynch between RoL, VE, stutters and bats today if BM is not an option. Every other player did posted something townie to lesser or greater degrees in my eyes at some point. These 4 I can't find anything townie about them.

We are also not lynching bats. Stutters I could see maybe although also better vig target. VE I would be hesitant about.


Seems a bit of a too generic agreement given I seem to be his only strong scumread.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:37 GMT
#1297
On May 13 2015 06:32 Half the Sky wrote:
51/60

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On May 13 2015 06:21 Vivax wrote:
Hope at some point people will notice how HTS is just affirming things and pushing her "scumreads" but avoids interacting, in this case, with what I said. I pointed out earlier how she didn't try to engage me in a conversation and I don't see that answered.

Overall the one thing I see myself doing as scum is pick lynches and push them, and try to get a stance on important stuff. What ends up lacking in that case is the part of trying to figure out things. The play is more deterministic so to say and that's about the feeling I get from HTS posts.


You have eight votes on you. Why don't you comment about the rest of the people on your wagon? If you read my filter you'd actually see what discernments I made. How about the others?

It's glaringly obvious you're not reading the thread based on the post on Rasputin, or myself, and it's glaringly obvious marv and I aren't the only ones scumreading you.


It's also glaringly obvious you either didn't read my filter or chose to not answer to some questions I asked.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:39 GMT
#1298
Anyway of the bunch I'm most confident on Xata being mafia and he earns my vote so hope that's settled for post-flip.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:40 GMT
#1299
I'm really good at reading him. Last time he was mafia I scumread him D1 and nobody lynched him. FML. But he conceded at endgame. I think it was Carol.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:44 GMT
#1304
On May 13 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
I can be convinced to switch to Xata if you can tell me he's mafia and you're not.


One answer: I'm not mafia cause I do less than usual on D1. But since it was always the case so far and people are used to it I will get lynched regardless. Just make good use of my flip and everything's fine, and my town meta is broken if I keep doing this a few times.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 12 2015 21:50 GMT
#1307
On May 13 2015 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 06:30 Vivax wrote:
As for JAT you will notice he commented on marv's list as being ok but apparently the only viable lynch on it is me, as reinforced by his later play. There is no real interest in Oats and Xata even though he seemed to agree with the entire post, here:

On May 12 2015 22:16 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 12 2015 18:58 marvellosity wrote:
Seen it been mentioned a few times, but I think BH is a pretty terrible lynch, certainly anyone saving me from a nuke I am not going to vote for today.

Three people who I think are good lynches, other than BM:

Vivax - somehow when I read his posts last night they didn't seem *too* uninteresting. So I was left feeling a little town from it. But in the end, they led nowhere, game has been going on quite a while now, not enough to hang my hat onac

Oats - promised GB he'd try properly this game. I don't really remember his posts.

Xatalos - he's boring. that's enough.

I'm not very sure about my earlier Onegu read. I read Onegu + rsoultin arguing last night when I was pretty baked and I couldn't work out what the fuck was going on. Anyone have any bright insights?

This list seems ok. Vivax has vanished again - would absolutely lynch.
On May 12 2015 19:10 TalkingDead wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:00 TalkingDead wrote:
Yes. Can we add RebirthofLegend to said list?

We can, ish, but I think that verges a little more into policy, maybe.

Is it really a policy lynch to kill people who have 8 posts about nothing interesting that offer nothing of note and more than likely will continue said trend? Because I call that modus operandi.

He's a far worse offender than Palmer. At least Yamato has some interesting posts.

I think RoL would be a better vig target. No way to discern his alignment based on what he posted.
On May 12 2015 20:52 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 12 2015 20:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 12 2015 20:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, you asked me questions, never followed up. You said my read on BH is good, but it didn't change your vote, nor created interest in you to pursue more information on him.

Can you give more inputs about this?
Let's lynch BH?
Would you lynch Oats?
What did you make of my answer?

dude you arent fucking lynching me again day 1 for no reason.

Ok lets lynch Xata then.

100% scum.
Im not even kidding


I'm not lynching Xata.

Let's lynch BH?


We are not lynching BH. What reason is there for you to not lynch xatalos? I won't even start to comment on that pardon.
On May 12 2015 21:34 sandroba wrote:
I would like to lynch between RoL, VE, stutters and bats today if BM is not an option. Every other player did posted something townie to lesser or greater degrees in my eyes at some point. These 4 I can't find anything townie about them.

We are also not lynching bats. Stutters I could see maybe although also better vig target. VE I would be hesitant about.


Seems a bit of a too generic agreement given I seem to be his only strong scumread.

And how did you determine that I am not scumreading the other 2? The answer is you didn't. You could have asked me for example. But instead you are trying to throw shit around for the dumbest reasons.
Yeah, I agreed with the list because I agreed with all targets. That does not change the fact that we have only one lynch and that you are by far the best one. This is about as good as your "case" against HTS. You just ignore the overall play of your scumreads and instead search for something irrelevant to nitpick.
Why do we need to interact with you to figure out your alignment when your biggest scumtell is that you aren't doing anything on your own? We don't.


I think I am pretty much out of posts btw.


Why should I ask you if you scumread them if you think you're mafia? If I ask you, you will just give a reasonably sounding answer. This way I am able to make the observation that your proclaimed interest isn't visible in the following posts. All your interest seems to lie in mislynching me in spite of the illusion that you have multiple suspects when you really haven't.
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