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Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 07 2015 22:13 GMT
#1561
On May 08 2015 06:57 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 04:49 Superbia wrote:
On May 08 2015 04:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 08 2015 04:43 Superbia wrote:
SL are you dumbtelling? There is no vet.


I don't even know what a dumbtell is. *shrug*


Intentionally pretending you don't know what's going on to appear townie.


Ergh, he does this as both alignments :/



Yeh I don't think he's particularly mafia atm.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 07 2015 22:14 GMT
#1562
SL, that is.
Minimal effort.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
May 07 2015 22:19 GMT
#1563
when is deadline?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#1564
The one thing that really bugs me about Stutters is that he didn't respond to either y0su or myself about his other scumreads. Or maybe he did....this is what I have...

On May 06 2015 08:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Lynch prpl, then Super. Easy skins easy life.


On May 06 2015 08:50 Stutters695 wrote:
I'll worry about his teammates once I confirm he's scum.

Instead of wasting your time on me (spoiler alert, I'm not getting lynched. I'm here now and I've just gotten started) give me actual reasons why I shouldn't lynch prpl and we can find someone else. Until then, while you're hard defending my strongest scum read, I'm not going to stress too much about your thoughts.


Pretty evasive, hence my asking what he'd do if prplhz was replaced.

On May 06 2015 09:36 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 09:00 Superbia wrote:
Hmm okay. Can you give some thoughts on the people you have not mentioned yet on the list above? Apologies if you have mentioned them somewhere before. I always prefer to get your current reads and I don't really want to filter dive every time before I interact.

Yeah, if you want any detail it'll take a little. Short answers:

TT: could be scum or just inexperienced. Currently not someone I'd lynch today

Disinfo: would strongly consider lynching if prpl is scum. Without rereading, he doesn't stand out much except something I noted earlier between him and prpl.

Yosu: basically forgot he was playing, have to read more

Shining: ditto

SL: shit load of associations, way too early for them. Still would rather prpl but once I really get into reading up on everyone, I could easily see him.


Next sequence of quotes makes it more likely that ritoky is town and Stutters is scum -

On May 07 2015 03:43 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 02:58 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:45 ritoky wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:40 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 02:25 ritoky wrote:
EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1

Go read any game I play lol. If you get 3 pages out of me d1 it's a miracle. Honestly, it's not the best in newbies, but it's very established for my meta. There is a reason HtS was on my side about it d1.

Anyway that's like the 7th time I've explained it. Eyes forward now, I'm done with that.

Why don't we lynch prpl?


i did read your filter,

On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


On May 04 2015 03:56 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 03:39 prplhz wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:20 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
[quote]

he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

[quote]

[quote]

he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.


He had 15 pages in NSM7.

if you want to lynch me for low post count then you should do it now because i'm going to post a lot less this game. that game (like many other games) i tried to spam myself town. that's also why i have joined out of time mafia, because i want to stop spamming so much. anyway the reason i haven't posted a lot is because i haven't been around.

@superbia @ritoky what do you think about celestial? he is coming on as super tryhard, like nothing i've ever seen before. he stands out a lot compared to the general relaxed atmosphere in the thread. didn't filter him yet (dunno how much i can get out of that this early anyway) but it's just something that been sticking out a lot.

also @superbia happy birthday!


Spam yourself town. LOL. Is that what you're calling that? You established yourself as pretty town d1 there, then went completely mia as town imploded. Then came back spamming bullshit. If that's your strategy as town you need to step your game up real bad.

So far this game you've less and I was even trying not to tunnel you after that trainwreck of a game. Yet somehow, you just have a very lynchable face yet again.

How about you read C's filter and give me a reason not to lynch you instead of just saying "that stands out"


On May 05 2015 01:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Prpl still missing I see.



here are all of your posts before the flip on prpl. this is not him "being a good target since d1" or you pushing a lynch on him. yes you had a scum read, but for him to be a "good target" that means you have to push him as the lynch candidate and really make the case for him being scum. you made no cases, never called for his lynch, and instead did a lot of this:

On May 05 2015 04:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy day. I would still do Scott. Playing in 2 games is rough.


so sorry if i am not buying your revisionist history.


Since n1 not d1, what the fuck are you on about revisionist history. I gave him d1 to do anything. He didn't. He still hasn't, that's scum prpl in a nutshell. HtS made additional points. If you won't do it from my posts, read hers and lynch him.


the only difference btwn d1 and n1 is scott flipped town. why does scott flipping town make prpl more likely mafia?


Because that gave him 48 hours to post and he hadn't done dick. Because he afk'd in his previous game as town for a day, he deserved the benefit of the doubt in case the weekend was bad but it's Wednesday now and he's still bad.


But he's soft pushed Sueprbia even. Looked at his filter closely, soft-pushed prplhz D1 and then cranked it up.

Eeesssssshhhhhhhhhhh.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:23 GMT
#1565
EBWOP - Extend the final quote to see the green text I highlighted.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:24 GMT
#1566
On May 08 2015 07:19 prplhz wrote:
when is deadline?


36m. At least have some fun and amuse us with some baby seals
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:27 GMT
#1567
Superbia, what exactly reeked of TMI? Just a tonal read on his hard pushes on prplhz post-lynch? Wasn't sure if there was a particular quote that screamed TMI in your head.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:27 GMT
#1568
I'm still going through his filter.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 07 2015 22:30 GMT
#1569
On May 08 2015 07:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Superbia, what exactly reeked of TMI? Just a tonal read on his hard pushes on prplhz post-lynch? Wasn't sure if there was a particular quote that screamed TMI in your head.


Him being extremely adamant about pushing prp. I believe I asked him about it at some point too and I thought his answer was quite lackluster. Like I don't understand how a town can come into this day and be that focused on prp while there are so many question marks floating around.
Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:32 GMT
#1570
So basically him pushing prplhz and ignoring everyone else. Okay, now I'm understanding you. That I can agree with. That was the only person he mentioned post-lynch.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:33 GMT
#1571
EBWOP - that was the only person he was mentioning post-lynch until he was asked....and even then he didn't scum anyone hard until you, Superbia, I think it was when I was pushing you pretty hard.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 07 2015 22:34 GMT
#1572
Also it doesn't help that he literally wanted to push people for defending prp, someone whom's alignment should not have been known:

On May 07 2015 23:08 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 21:49 Half the Sky wrote:
If prplhz does flip scum I think ritoky and Superbia should be revisited as both hard towned prplhz for mindmeld or something.

Just woke up. Gonna get some thoughts out today since work + another Bolts game tonight.

Tyler "Literally Stamkos" Johnson is the best thing ever btw.

Anyway, first impressions are it looks significantly better for Rit (more null/slight town than anything) . He "mindmelded" or w/e but dropped it when prpl went afk which would be the correct call.

The biggest question imo is on Super. He's hard defended someone who hasn't done anything for 5 days basically.

It's really hard to say scum would hard defend scum for that long over such shitty reasons. And when he finally got off the defense it felt unnatural as fuck. Unless he was stalling for prpl to come back from outside information, why not just cut your losses?

I don't get it, feels too obvious almost.

Minimal effort.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:35 GMT
#1573
On May 07 2015 05:21 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 04:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, I think I asked you this question before, but I don't recall an answer earlier and I cannot find it in your filter.

If prplhz disappeared from the game, for whom would you vote?

TBF I've been pretty tunneled on getting him lynched. If I had to choose immediately (like minutes to the lynch) I'd sheep on you.

If I had time to read I'd probably settle between disf, shining, tt and y0su. I'll probably read up on them tonight anyway to get my thoughts out there.



Essh....he did answer my question to other scumreads. But it's still damned evasive.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 07 2015 22:39 GMT
#1574
On May 08 2015 07:35 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2015 05:21 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 04:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, I think I asked you this question before, but I don't recall an answer earlier and I cannot find it in your filter.

If prplhz disappeared from the game, for whom would you vote?

TBF I've been pretty tunneled on getting him lynched. If I had to choose immediately (like minutes to the lynch) I'd sheep on you.

If I had time to read I'd probably settle between disf, shining, tt and y0su. I'll probably read up on them tonight anyway to get my thoughts out there.



Essh....he did answer my question to other scumreads. But it's still damned evasive.


back.
But he didn't follow up on that, right?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 07 2015 22:40 GMT
#1575
EBWOP:
If I recall right like my only interaction with stutters was me asking him to do stuff, which he totally ignored.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:41 GMT
#1576
On May 08 2015 07:39 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 07:35 Half the Sky wrote:
On May 07 2015 05:21 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 07 2015 04:49 Half the Sky wrote:
Stutters, I think I asked you this question before, but I don't recall an answer earlier and I cannot find it in your filter.

If prplhz disappeared from the game, for whom would you vote?

TBF I've been pretty tunneled on getting him lynched. If I had to choose immediately (like minutes to the lynch) I'd sheep on you.

If I had time to read I'd probably settle between disf, shining, tt and y0su. I'll probably read up on them tonight anyway to get my thoughts out there.



Essh....he did answer my question to other scumreads. But it's still damned evasive.


back.
But he didn't follow up on that, right?


No. Because I didn't see any such response definitively until I saw this.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 07 2015 22:45 GMT
#1577
On May 08 2015 07:40 disformation wrote:
EBWOP:
If I recall right like my only interaction with stutters was me asking him to do stuff, which he totally ignored.


Looking at his filter, his latest scumread aside from prplhz is Superbia.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 07 2015 22:55 GMT
#1578
Dropped in briefly to catch up a bit and see the flip. Watching the election stuff.

On May 08 2015 04:16 Tictock wrote:
-c- I'm sure you looking into it more than I have at this point. Where do you stand with Stutters and Super at this point?

Anything more on stutters since you noticed his "backup" on Dis?


Super is looking significantly better since the whole Doc claim thing. Of course that could all change depending on prpl's flip coming up. Either way, first impression is he's looking a lot more townie but we'll have to see about the flip and filter.

Stutters I've honestly not looked into much since I mentioned his whole thing on disformation; it was just something that jumped out at me immediately. The time I had before I disappeared off to vote (and later watching Serenity) I was wrapped up in the fallout of the claim and counterclaim. I'll probably start looking at people again tomorrow when I've got the flip to work with too and when I'm significantly less tired. My brain isn't working very well right now, I'm exhausted. The last few pages have been very interesting though.


On May 08 2015 06:24 Half the Sky wrote:
EU West is trash lately though. Crashed twice tonight. GG Valve.


I tried to get on CSGO a couple hours ago. Servers buggered to hell.


If prpl doesn't flip red here just... -_-
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 07 2015 22:55 GMT
#1579
On May 05 2015 23:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.


On May 06 2015 09:36 Stutters695 wrote:
Disinfo: would strongly consider lynching if prpl is scum. Without rereading, he doesn't stand out much except something I noted earlier between him and prpl.


I think he refers to:
On May 05 2015 22:46 disformation wrote:
I don't like prplhz at all. Basically nothing in his filter. Gets a 2ndary wagon going, but basically lets rikoty and superbia do all the work in pushing it. Could easily be a mafia lurker trying to get some town creds and confusion going, while heaping scum on somebody else. Willing to lynch.


I answer with:
On May 05 2015 23:40 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 23:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I will vote prpl tomorrow. However, I really do not like disinfo's EoD summary post. There are way scummier things about prpl than sitting back after voting HtS. The fact that he ignores those worries me and makes me think that might be an attempt at a bus if prpl flips later without actually trying to get him lynched. Not to mention that's the only positive of his list there and it ignores the biggest things against prpl.

Not going to worry about that yet, but just something to note if prpl flips scum.


Which things? All that is in his filter is nothing and the start of the HtS push, where he was content to sit back really fast. Yes, there was also a really strange meta/tone read thingie, but I don't see how that is worse than doing jack shit all day and then reappearing with a push and not really following up on that push.

Slowly getting frustrated that everything I do is called scummy in some way. Seeing why scott just stopped at one point.


Which I think is ignored by him...

Since I don't remember any other interaction with prplhz...
Is he bussing prplhz because he realized super early he is going to get lynched? Maybe because of something prplhz said in mafia QT and then is trying to set me up as a misslynch for the next day? I mean I did a few bad posts, so I can see mafia thinking I am an easy target...
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
May 07 2015 22:57 GMT
#1580
It's probably like this:

prp: I'm not going to play (tomorrow), just bus me.

Happens more than you think.
Minimal effort.
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