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On May 05 2015 07:49 ritoky wrote:
ticktock posted, ignored hts, hts did not push him for ignoring her. looks like i was right to be confident that she wouldn't follow through.
When did he post? The last hour when I was in the other game as co-host? Definitely not before that unless I missed that.
I literally get back here and Superbia is going all out on the lynch. prplhz looks even worse as he's just posting from the backseat.
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On May 05 2015 07:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
She looks like she's trying really hard to make big posts. I haven't read the thread since about 10am-ish
You've played Titanic with me. I think you should know by now that I tend to case a lot. Not the first time you have seen big posts from me. Try harder next time.
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On May 05 2015 07:54 Superbia wrote:
HtS why are you voting scott? What did his last post do to your read? What do you think of disformation waffling?
Make it short pls. :D
My reasons for voting scott were from what I presented before - he didn't even have a read on you before voting him when he first voted me.
His claiming VT holds nothing to me. It's NAI - I've seen people do that as both alignments. I questioned him on why he thought disinformation was a better lynch.
Waffling and committing to a read though does not look good at all, it is a scumlike behaviour.
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On May 05 2015 07:57 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 07:56 Fecalfeast wrote:On May 05 2015 07:54 Half the Sky wrote:On May 05 2015 07:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
She looks like she's trying really hard to make big posts. I haven't read the thread since about 10am-ish You've played Titanic with me. I think you should know by now that I tend to case a lot. Not the first time you have seen big posts from me. Try harder next time. WTF is this post? Did I say that was alignment indicative? This is what I mean, combative. she was all passive, den me and prp called her scum. now she all turnt up. was a pretty drastic tonal shift.
No I wasn't passive at all. Not in how I cased Superbia. You basically took one post and blew it up. Try again ritoky.
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On May 05 2015 07:54 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 07:53 Half the Sky wrote:On May 05 2015 07:49 ritoky wrote:
ticktock posted, ignored hts, hts did not push him for ignoring her. looks like i was right to be confident that she wouldn't follow through. When did he post? The last hour when I was in the other game as co-host? Definitely not before that unless I missed that. I literally get back here and Superbia is going all out on the lynch. prplhz looks even worse as he's just posting from the backseat. right here: Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 06:48 Tictock wrote:On May 05 2015 01:59 ritoky wrote:looked @ ticktock's filter: On May 04 2015 19:40 Tictock wrote:
I'm having a hard time deciding who I want to vote for as well.
Scott is still the most appealing case, even though I have some doubts.
I'm tempted to make a case against prp but there just isn't enough to go on. I just don't like his dismissive post regarding how he "spams town" normally and says he isn't around. If he is legit too busy to play a town would likely replace, this seems more like a scum excuse to skate by day 1.
Unfortunately that's all I have as prp, as well as several other ppl, just aren't active enough to make real reads on.
this post strikes me as odd...he is having a hard time deciding who to vote for, yet he thinks 1 guy is scum and the other guy is inactive and that's his two top scum reads? seems like not a hard decision there. i don't really understand where his hesitancy is coming from here. My issue here was that the vote on scott felt too easy. It wouldn't add pressure as scott had already seemed to accept he is probably going to be the D1 lynch and would only put me into the "lynch scott" bandwagon. So while that was my obvious vote at the time I did not see that vote giving town any new info. I was pretty tempted, and probably should have just gone with it, to vote for prp to try and pressure him into posting. Probably not the best way to play it out, but that is what was going through my head. In regards to my reads on Shining and Super, I've been having a hard time reading them or at least feeling like i have good reads on them. I'll reread them and catch up on their most recent posts here now. As for the current state of things, I can't get behind a HtS lynch. The reads against her are purely meta-based and I've already stated I wont trust those. scott... man you made yourself look pretty bad early on and at this point there is no denying your going to get lynched. Still I look at your most recent posts and I feel like you are posting genuinely. Why did you give up defending yoourself?
This post in of itself looks towny. Not sure if he accidentally or intentionally missed my post. Will state again....
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On May 05 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont think a town needs to justify any vote when its 7-3 because your vote literraly is worthless but you sure tried. I think its scummy
This is true. Also I didn't see your response to me regarding Superbia. You made some comments on him and Shining, did you have anything else to add regarding his game play since?
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Well mafia can definitely find a way to defend town, or keep a lynch off them for cred if they do get lynched. He comes in with most of the votes and 30min before EoD doing this.
On May 05 2015 07:06 Superbia wrote:
Like I only know HtS' opinion on me and scott. I know for sure I'm town so I know that her read is garbage. I don't know about scott at the moment, but I generally hate most of the people voting on him.
So he hates most of the people on Scott but he singles me out for not having the same reads as him. I gather post-lynch he's not impressed with SL/FF, but unless I missed it, no idea where he stands on Stutters. *yawn*
Anyone can sheep a town read and come up with BS reasons to find a second wagon which is what he tried to do with me at EoD. In Titanic, both Damdred and Palmar sheeped my case on Fecalfeast, so that behaviour at scum is definitely possible. ritoky's method of doing it is a bit more credible despite the faulty logic because he actually did interact with me though I'm not sure where he is with stutters since he appeared to have strong feelings on him for his garbage reasoning.
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Generally I see people scumread someone for "not having the same reads as themselves" close to late game - not D1. I had a problem with ritoky doing this as well, but I had justifications already for seeing things differently than he did. I find it odd - especially from a veteran like him - that actually that he doesn't even consider a world that any town could have reasons for having different reads from him.
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On May 05 2015 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
If I had to give a strong super read I would say hes town for some comment like "we need a close race to get information" or something like that because I usualy say that when im town too because its probably true
I see where you're coming from with this and it would make sense in a world where Superbia is town. Right now with the rest of his behaviour at EoD, though, I'm not seeing it. As for me, I had my vote on where I felt it was mafia and I felt no need to change, and Superbia was only looking bad to one other person. I also had Celestial as town, so between that and my additional observation on Scott (not townreading Superbia prior to sheeping him on me early game) I honestly felt my vote was in a good place.
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On May 05 2015 08:33 -Celestial- wrote:
prplhz is looking really bad in my books. I wasn't planning to filter dive right now but I brought up his filter to just check over the post he made when he voted scott and he has literally a one-page filter. Most of which is just junk and vague sentiments. His vote on HtS feels incredibly throwaway, kinda OMGUS over her read on him.
1000%. He looks a lot worse now at EoD.
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I'll have to go back and re-read filters and see if I missed anything on anyone. There were a number of people I could not get to as my time only freed up midday today.
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Tictock, when you ever return to the thread:
On May 05 2015 08:14 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 08:13 sicklucker wrote:
Like i dont think a town needs to justify any vote when its 7-3 because your vote literraly is worthless but you sure tried. I think its scummy This is true. Also I didn't see your response to me regarding Superbia. You made some comments on him and Shining, did you have anything else to add regarding his game play since?
On May 05 2015 04:51 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 05:23 Tictock wrote:
Both Superbia and The Shining made some eyebrow raising early game plays, but they appear to be contributing now and I can easily see the early game stuff being sillyness or just attempts at pressure. No real reads on them.
I'm getting pretty strong town vibes from y0su, disformation, and ritoky. I really like disformation's attempts to poke and ask questions. y0su is my weakest read of these 3, but feels like a solid town.
Everyone else... well there simply isn't enough out of prplhz or sicklucker to really go off of. Not much to go off of Stutters695 either, another person who states he "doesn't do day 1" which is pretty meh but NAI.
Pretty much all I got for now. Show nested quote +On May 04 2015 16:16 Tictock wrote:
I left HtS out of my earlier reads due to just joining the thread. That was awhile ago and HtS did not provide much besides some suspicions against Superbia. Getting a scum read for now until there is something to show otherwise.
As for Superbia, I'm having a hard time getting a solid read now. I was getting a scum vibe from his play the first half of D1 here but he is looking more town here near the end of the day. I want to keep an eye on him but atm he doesn't seem like a good lynch.
prplhz is looking pretty scum to me right now too. He made one post with actual content and even that was mostly an excuse as to why he isn't posting.
Scott put himself in a position where he looked pretty bad, but lately he's bee making an effort and seems fairly calm given the suspicions around him. That feels town to me, he's not ignoring what ppl say about him but he's not focused on defending himself either.
prp and HtS really need to contribute, SL and Stutters are also barely active & have contributed nothing solid thus far. I am really curious to see what Tictock has to say on Superbia particularly on the exchange between him and Celestial if he has any input or even between that and Shining. Both disinformation and myself are also headscratching on him at the moment, and one of my issues with Superbia is that particular exchange. I realise he's partying hard (happy birthday btw!) but look forward to a response when he returns.
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On May 05 2015 10:34 Stutters695 wrote:
What do you make of Sup calling me out for "ninja" voting but not saying anything after about it? I saw you saying you were unsure on where he felt I was, but I'm torn on how to take that.
Part of me wants to say that's a really town reaction because he felt he caught scum. But he never acknowledged he was wrong and it implies he wasn't reading the thread that well while he was here.
I don't know.
Looks like I missed Superbia's second post when I said he was unsure on how he felt. So much was flying around at EoD, I had missed it.
On May 05 2015 07:56 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On May 05 2015 07:56 Stutters695 wrote:On May 05 2015 06:33 Stutters695 wrote:
##vote: Scott31337
Just in case I'm not here closer to the deadline. Forgot to put it in the voting thread and realized I was going to get modkilled. Get over yourself. Not engaging in conversation until pinged out. Big town plays.
The second post reads as sarcastic to me given his first sentence. So I think he's calling you scum for your ninja vote.
However, I checked your filter, and you listed at least three times as to why you didn't like Scott prior to the vote, so him calling it a ninja vote is just him looking at the timestamps and throwing it out there. You voted in thread about 90m prior and in voting thread approx 75m prior.
Although he calls it a ninja vote at 5m prior. He goes back to read the stuff on me and clearly he was looking at other things too when he called your ninja vote (and linked it) yet he didn't catch when you voted and still called it ninja. You haven't changed your reads on Scott from what I can tell. It's definitely selective reading and mafia can cherry pick the posts to fit their arguments. That's the (scum) impression I get from him.
Also he's saying you're not engaging in conversation. That statement doesn't really do anything productive as you have already stated your reasons for voting Scott. (Nor am I seeing his reasons for contesting that.)
Superbia gets back in thread and we have these series of quotes from him.
On May 05 2015 06:57 Superbia wrote:
k I'm here.
On May 05 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
Reading.
On May 05 2015 07:04 Superbia wrote:
Like at this point I'd lynch HtS or maybe disformation.
It's the same problem I have with Superbia voting me, he's not really reading the thread (the timestamps clearly indicate that), or reading selectively. IIRC he afks the thread saying I need to do more, and he basically comes back to that. His push on me is at best OMGUS.
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Hadn't gotten to reading FF/disinformation/tictock in detail before EoD.
I just went through FF's filter and nothing feels off, the logic for his reads are there. Unable to reference a certain game in progress, but between that and some familiarity with his town games, I am fairly confident he's town.
Also the post where you (FF) said I was combative, I got the impression from your "trying too hard" with just a few minutes left (and not having been able to read your filter before that, so I had no idea where you stood on me), you were setting yourself up to switch votes.
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I'll be in and out today, will comment on additional insights I have.
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Re-reading through EoD again - one thing I find unusual (and it looks scum at face value) is that Shining wanted to see why I thought it was important to say disinf and I were scratching our heads. I responded to that already.
That was around the time ritoky/prplhz started throwing things around, and when I responded, I didn't see any followup from it considering he found my behaviour or reaction strange, there was zero interaction with me through EoD from him as they were pushing on, at the very least there should have been some conclusion from him. prplhz looks really bad in general, but just from that interaction alone, if I had to ignore the rest of Shining's gameplay, he actually looks the worst in the exchange.
Since he'd just stopped posting altogether I didn't realise it until I re-read the quote that ritoky scumread me for and it was the response to Shining, if ritoky has a conclusion from that, Shining absolutely should.
Otherwise, what was the point of that question?
I respond to Shining 7m after he asks that and there's nothing else from him, there's a potential he lurks as ritoky actively leads the push. Generally speaking it's a scum tell to sit in the background like that.
That last post (that disinformation quoted) was his last post and it was 3h before EoD.
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Work meeting - need to afk. Will be back.
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Hajime votecount posted here by accident - edited out with Kita's permission.
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Oh shit, this is what happens when I have multiple tabs open.
*bangs head against wall*
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