EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3 - Page 9
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Ultimately I feel like you guys are going to have to decide whether or not to lynch me somewhere down the road when I'm not around because I'm basically never going to be around. I'll do some posting in a couple hours when I get the chance. Something about me pushing but not really pushing Trfel that I disagree with and I forget what else. | ||
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I don't think I want to lynch Trfel anymore. This could be falling into noob trap or some shit but the apology post RARELY comes from scum. He could be a tricksy one but I don't think I see it. Problem then becomes the only scum left for me is yamato and someone I've previously townread. I don't see it being Breshke. I REALLY don't. Could be Artanis, Palmar.................(rsoul? probably not rsoul.) On April 27 2015 23:58 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Could you make your reasoning on Wave more clear? All I've heard on Wave is his reasoning for the 3 votes on him early on, his differentiating between me and Yamato, not caring about your alignment and saying he hasn't been trying to solve the game. I don't find the former two very convincing at all. Regarding the third, I can understand what he says because part of your scumread on him is how he interacts with Wave in a way that'd make sense for them to be scumbuddies. As for the latter, that's probably what troubles me the most on Wave. He comments on a lot of things but he doesn't really push anything. He wanted to lynch someone this night as his activity dropped off but I don't think he actually voted anyone. I may actually be convincing myself here. I mean, yeah, but no. On April 28 2015 04:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think I may be on board for a Wave lynch after going through the last few pages of his filter. It feels a lot like he's commenting on the game rather than figuring out stuff like Palmar pointed out. He's voted Yamato but doesn't really push him, and then there's oddball comments like When we've been talking about Trfel for a while at that point, so one would expect he'd have more specific reasons. Furthermore, his vote is still on Yamato. I'm actually struggling with voting him a lot because he's been very reasonable to me and I like him so I really don't want to be wrong, but I do think he's scum here. His activity to influence on the game ratio is just way off, and a lot of his posts just really don't help town to figure out the game. ##Vote WaveOfShadow I had extremely specific reasons throughout my filter as to why I thought Trfel was scum (before this point). I mean as to why I still had my vote on yamato, I don't really have a good explanation for that. Placeholder I guess because it was pretty clear nobody was being lynched at any specific time, and I didn't mind having my vote on either one at the time because neither one was in any danger since the original unvoting. Don't have much more to say on that. On April 28 2015 05:50 Trfel wrote: Do you think there is anything to the inconsistency between WaveofShadow's claim that he never uses meta and that he actually uses meta a noticeable amount? And how he uses meta for some ( for example, Palmar), but refuses to use meta for others? Ugh Trfel whyyyyy I mean it comes down to this with Trfel. Apology post vs everything he does, essentially, and I still think I choose the apology post. Like...if Trfel is being coached by anyone (would have to be rsoul as scumbuddy for this to happen, and I dunno if I see them working on such a specific strategy behind the scenes and in thread together) or has realized that looking really unsure of oneself/newbie is a good way to play scum then I'm just dead wrong but I don't THINK I am. | ||
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KK yamato. I mean...I don't really even have anything I comment on. Dude's not here, not playing. Like...super minor push on Artanis, and ONE post on me while fingering me earlier in the thread---honestly makes it seem like he was looking for a reason to scumread me when he posted this: On April 26 2015 15:08 yamato77 wrote: Before I delve into your posts, Damdred, I'll say that I haven't liked Artanis from the start, so it's pretty easy for me to get on to the idea of him being mafia. His whole "you made me mad so now I'm NOT going to play the game" thing was a weak response to my pressure and I should have pushed it more. His trfel read kinda synced with mine a bit at eod so I wavered but with rso basically calling him (trfel) conf town I dunno if my read is even good so I can't give Artanis much credit there even if we had the same problem with trfel. So I assume you mean these posts, where you outline your problems with Artanis I can't really speak to the flow of the game sort of stuff like OMGUS response and reactive activity seeing as I'm reading everything in hindsight, so this post in and of itself doesn't mean a whole lot to me. This post, where you ping out his changing read on me, is quite interesting. Notably, I literally haven't given a new read since eod, so how could Artanis go from such a confident strong townread to such a weak justification of voting for me in such a short time? ritoky did this sort of thing as scum in the last game and it really brought him forward to me as possible mafia. His follow-up where he continues to push you while casually calling me mafia is quite interesting though. Wouldn't it be really easy for scum Artanis to just flock to the herd rather than continue to ping you out? Still don't see any reason not to lynch Yamato but for some reason I'm starting to think of unflipped scumteams (bad wave bad) and palmar/yamato makes a great deal of sense considering how quickly yamato just flew off his radar for no good reason. Although then again everything Palmar has done this game hasn't been for much good reason so I still don't know what to think of it. Artanis getting sick of Palmar and wants to lynch him---at first glance seems really bad since Artanis didn't care about Palmar's weak pushing up until now, but to wait for THIS long to try and get Palmar lynched from scum seems weird...like why not try it earlier since it's not like Palmar has done anything differently? Unless it's Artanis just trying to look for a new target I don't THINK that comes from scum. I was about to ask who Artanis wants to lynch now but I think it's me. Fair. I guess yamato remains my target then since apology post from Trfel and while there are other possibilities, yamato seems like the most solid choice. As far as voting for afkers goes we have a limit now, and it's likely people (especially me) are going to be away for deadline so like I said before people are going to have to get over the fact that they're lynching someone who's afk. If it's me so be it. | ||
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On April 28 2015 11:46 Breshke wrote: Town should focus the lynch between the three players I stated to ensure we get a lynch that is discussed and what not and just not agreed upon at the very end of the last phase. Obviously if someone finds something important then yeah do that and this plan doesn't work for wave at all because he town-reads me and yam Personally I want to lynch yamato because I think he currently has the best chance of flipping scum I agree with this and I am not flipping Breshke today because the only person pushing has been rsoul and I don't think her case has any merit. Oh wow I forgot about Damdred completely. Uh.,..that in itself weirds me out. Did he do stuff today? | ||
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Actually the past two days he hasn't done shit. And that's saying a lot coming from me. Maybe 'cuz no longer suspect?  Fuck this game though Just lynch me so I don't have to try and feel guilty about not being able to try plz | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:01 Trfel wrote: WaveofShadow, The main thing that I have a problem with in your play is that I don't really feel that you have been pushing your scumreads that hard. Do you mind explaining this for me? Thanks! Look at the times I've been around and what I've talked about. Before I very recently townread you, look at all the posts I've made about you, and the times rsoul responded to me. That was all pushing you. I also pushed yamato yesterday. (And for the record not pushing a scumread 'that hard' isn't in itself a good scumread imo, but whatevs) Whether or not you or the rest of the thread 'feels' like I've been doing it doesn't really matter a great deal to me. I mean the only thing I suppose I can admit to is that my timing hasn't been amazing and the times I have been around while other people were, I sort of joined discussion where I could. | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote: like in what world does scum!yamato not jump at the chance to try to paint one of his alternate wagons scum if they're town lol >< IN the world where he's scum and isn't playing the game. METAMETAMETAMETA but I have no choie here there isn't much else to go on. Town yamato would have played by this point I think. Palmar and Artanis should also know this for the record. | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:27 rsoultin wrote: yeah, it makes less sense xP like you may have just picked out one of the biggest arguments for a town yamato there, breshke, unless of course you're scum which you won't admit if you are anyway so -shrugs- Maybe if you ask him really nicely.  Alright so I have a bit more time. Palmar Damdred go. What do we think? I don't THINK I lynch Artanis today. Still leaning town on him. He's been too insightful and useful. | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:43 rsoultin wrote: lol >< i don't see palmar's push on you coming from scum...i think it's kind of funny that he thinks we should either sheep or lynch him but that's neither here nor there damdred...meeeh i don't want to lynch him right now on a hunch and a gutread and maybe i'm pocketed i don't know but i can't ignore his lack of presence in the thread lately >< it's made me less sure on him, too agree that i'm feeling better about artie in general even if i don't really agree with him long and short of it is if i had to kill one of the three it would be damdred, but i don't really want to lynch any of them lol >< You're pretty easily pocketed lol Yeah I'm going to attempt to keep my eye on damdred at this point but I doubt he's a target tomorrow above even me probably simply because palmar will always be around I don't know what I think of palmar anymore---the incessant no-reason pushing is seriously pissing me off and I keep trying to stay objective on him. And re: breshke I STILL don't see why you find breshke scummy for the same stuff you ignore in Trfel. And I've been bugging you about that for fucking ever and it REALLY bothers me. I'm not going to lynch breshke. | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:48 Trfel wrote: Breshke, Palmar didn't flip on yamato77. He just decided that WaveofShadow was a better lynch. Oh rearry On April 27 2015 03:39 Palmar wrote: Quickly skimmed Yamato since he came back. Moving my vote to waveofshadow ##unvote ##vote waveofshadow I think it's less likely that Yamato is mafia now so that kinda puts artanis back on the table | ||
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I've even explained it pretty simply. Breshke and Trfel both have the 'uncertainty-woe-is-me-I-have-no-good-reads' stuff going on, but Breshke has a whole bunch of posts that are all but impossible to have come from sum in between. Artanis picked up on that too even though he now apparently scumreads me for picking that up. Trfel up until this point had NONE of those, so I don't understand what you were tonereading him on. | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:53 rsoultin wrote: -_- I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOREVER that it is NOT THE SAME and that you can't see it...i don't even know what to say >< like how you can say truffle wasn't putting original content out there when you guys took up half of it to scumread yamato is ludicrous it can bug you forever i don't care. that you don't see the difference doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it's a PISS POOR excuse to not consider lynching breshke when you were going to lynch truffle for what you claim is the SAME reason like that's the height of stupidity! if it's scummy enough to lynch truffle until his apology how the hell is it not scummy enough to lynch breshke? that point makes no sense it says NOTHING about breshke just that you don't like that you perceive i was treating them differently Like it's funny it's less relevant to me now about Trfel and Breshke themselves but now it's more relevant to me that YOU keep sticking with this. Like...the obstinate push towards Breshke that nobody understands or agrees with and yet you refuse to give up, and yet everyone still calls you town? | ||
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On April 28 2015 12:59 rsoultin wrote: lol put your ego aside for one second and realize that it's possible i actually know some of the players that i've been playing with since i started on this site better than you do xP my tonereads are based on personality as much as they are general tonereads and this "these posts are impossible to come from scum" arguments are really just bad. what you're essentially doing is saying breshke is a worthless town player who should be relegated to the bottom of the heap with other newbies who can only be read for how their posts are worded, when i know for a fact that he is not worthless at all Where do you get that? When have I ever called Breshke worthless or bad? Like it seems as though everything you ever do in this game is based on personal shit, and all it takes is one person taking advantage of that to fuck you over (has it already happened to you)? | ||
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On April 28 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote: like seriously >< if someone pushes this oh she was too right argument again to try to mislynch me, much less succeeds, i'm going to start gutting people read student V I KNOW HOW TO READ TRUFFLE YOU ASSHOLE And this is perfect evidence. Calm the hell down/take a break. | ||
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On April 28 2015 13:07 rsoultin wrote: nope you are going to sit here and explain to me ^^ how you can make a post saying you care less about truffle and breshke's alignment and more that i'm still stubbornly pushing breshke even though others don't agree with me, and yet people are still townreading me what is the purpose of that post unless to throw shade on me? please, do explain, because i sure can't see it It is for exactly the purpose of throwing shade on you because I don't trust you anymore. And you don't get to call me an asshole and then pretend everything is all cool now just because you have a big group of people licking your boots all game. Not only does it not make you right, it also doesn't even make you TOWN. | ||
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On April 28 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote: i want to lynch you ^^ i could be convinced to lynch wave but ironically you've made me doubt lynching yamato again, so congratulations we have three up for lynch that most people agree the scum is between and two want to lynch the other one and neither questions that? like...you don't even know who you want to lynch other than yamato so blah and i don't know what wave is doing...wanting to lynch palmar even though he doesn't really think he's scum? or just not wanting to commit to a scumread cause he thinks/it looks like it's omgus? And now you're putting words in my mouth too. Show me ONE time I said I wanted to lynch Palmar. | ||
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On April 28 2015 13:13 rsoultin wrote: then don't pretend you're doing anything else or tell me to cool down i'm sorry that you can't get your truffle mislynch anymore but that's not my problem ^^ you are literally attacking me for looking at two players differently when you were looking at the same two players differently ^^ and furthermore using it as an excuse not to give a real read on breshke How the fuck is my read on Breshke not real? Like you're actually intentionally antagonizing me right now after calling ME an asshole for simply suggesting that you might be scum because I don't trust you and don't want to fucking lick your apparent megatown boots along with everyone else. Fuck that. Like I actually explained why I saw those two players differnetly while you said 'um well um TONEREADZ LOL about 100 times. I've already spent way too much time on this shit. You're not getting a Breshke lynch tomorrow that much is obvious so you can go ahead and mislynch me because everyone is just going to ignore yamato and let him get away with not doing anything all game. Have fun | ||
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