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On April 21 2015 16:36 rsoultin wrote:
Lol if you cant see the similarity between those two reads on artie i dont onow what to tell you...both of you basically said hes town cause his reason for voting was odd...
Like read it when you quote it yeah?
Ive been giving out reads? I still have artie at a scum lean...liked yama's entrance though am a touch leary of all the appeals to me during his argument with wave, so the read is a little weaker now. already said i was inclined to agree with trfel that wave leans town after the exchange...
Beyond that nothing worth discussing xP and all of that is pretty much already in my filter sooooo
add to that not fully getting this artanis push earlier -_- now stop fucking misrepresenting me bresh cause it's getting on my last nerve -_-
IF I AM REALLY YOU'RE ONLY SCUMREAD RIGHT NOW BASED ON MY YAMATO READ YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF WHAT THAT READ ACTUALLY IS ><
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On April 22 2015 14:18 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:11 rsoultin wrote:
can you please tldr that monster for when i return, bh, and while you're at it explain why no rng lynch this game and where your usual method of using quotes went?
i'm not your typical big post = town sorta girl
other reads would be good, too
nite -_- there's one at the bottom, but if you who are "asleep" since this post aren't gonna take time to read a post I spent all that time working on, then that only reflects poorly on you and does not oblige me to add a second summary to my post
sweetie i read your entire post so you can put away the attitude
it doesn't make it any less of a bitch to read...and if the paragraph at the end where you're telling stories is your version of a tldr, that's just atrociously bad. the only purpose for a gigantic post like that which is practically unreadable is to make it look like you put a lot of effort into something. the facts that you're trying to highlight, please, in an easy, readable format, and if you must interpret it, keep it brief
hate narratives -_- anyone can write a narrative
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On April 22 2015 14:34 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:52 Damdred wrote:
It was mainly a tone read and a gut read earlier in the game and I really felt like RS has been reaching decent conclusions to a point and the interactions she had with myself and others. And calling me out and the reasons she did so were pretty good I felt like.
I do think several posts are a bit weird, but I think shes town. Hmm ok thanks I just havn't really felt the conclusions bit so if you have any specific examples that would be great but im going to be going back and looking anyway. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:On April 21 2015 16:36 rsoultin wrote:
Lol if you cant see the similarity between those two reads on artie i dont onow what to tell you...both of you basically said hes town cause his reason for voting was odd...
Like read it when you quote it yeah?
Ive been giving out reads? I still have artie at a scum lean...liked yama's entrance though am a touch leary of all the appeals to me during his argument with wave, so the read is a little weaker now. already said i was inclined to agree with trfel that wave leans town after the exchange...
Beyond that nothing worth discussing xP and all of that is pretty much already in my filter sooooo add to that not fully getting this artanis push earlier -_- now stop fucking misrepresenting me bresh cause it's getting on my last nerve -_- IF I AM REALLY YOU'RE ONLY SCUMREAD RIGHT NOW BASED ON MY YAMATO READ YOU SHOULD BE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF WHAT THAT READ ACTUALLY IS >< Yes i saw that but i also saw this which came after Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 10:53 Trfel wrote:On April 21 2015 10:05 rsoultin wrote:
i like yama and palmar this game so far Wait, rsoultin, why did you say this? the one on palmar was retracted xP you actually quoted the quote you ninny as for yama, i just have generally liked how he's approached the game so far, between the joke vote, pushing wave but not continuing to antagonize him when it reached a certain point -shrugs- not sure where exactly the quote fell in all that, but i've felt generally good about yama through most of the game I have no idea why you are being so quick tempered. I'm pushing on you? Great fucking decide if im town or mafia doing it and explain why im wrong or push back on me. If youre town and you think im town yeah it can be frustrating but im allowed to be wrong. If you think im mafia then why do you even care. Don't give me this pissed off bullshit where you say im trying to get you on tilt, I don't even get where you think id take that path as mafia.
i don't know and i'm not looking right now -_- i don't know that you'd do this as mafia or not, and frankly at the moment i don't care that much >< you want to know why i'm pissed?
On April 22 2015 11:42 Trfel wrote:
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She's being annoying and commenting on everything, with very high "entertainment" standards. But she's not doing anything interesting herself.
It makes her town.
now truffle i'm pretty sure is town, and this sort of bullshit makes me not want to play at all. i've arguably been one of the most active people in the thread trying to push people to actually contribute and evaluating what's being said, and this is what people come up with >< so excuse me if i don't really give a shit what alignment you are right now, or even if you realized you were echoing him or not
but why should i fucking try if it's worthless >< now leave me the fuck alone tonight if you're town, cause you're not helping. if you're scum whatever. it must be fun to watch. you can haha in the qt
you're wrong because its OBVIOUS to anyone reading my filter that you're wrong >< that or my posts really are completely worthless and y'all should have told me a lot sooner so i didn't waste the last several months with this game
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On April 22 2015 14:39 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 13:38 Breshke wrote:Ill properly read the bh thing later. Damdred can you talk to me about rso. Why is she so townie to you like she makes me feel like an ass but i remember getting that feeling last game when she was scum as well. On April 22 2015 13:03 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:57 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:50 rsoultin wrote:On April 22 2015 12:42 Breshke wrote:On April 22 2015 12:30 rsoultin wrote:
-shrugs- you can call it defensive if you want. i hate being misrepresented as either alignment, and i already had let it go a couple times before that xP
so give me something not concrete
i can see where you're coming from with damdy...but not so much with artanis, cause that's a pretty weak read lol >< if it's only based on the same posts you townread him for last time he was in the thread
as far as damdy is concerned, trying to get a lynch started with so little time before the 24hr mark doesn't sit well with me...i was actually warming up to him before that That was my non conrete thing. There 8 players other than me. I'm townreading 4 out of 8 of those players. 2 of the remaining are not involved in the game so difficult to read. The remaining two yourself and yamato have been town reading each other most of the game, does this mean anything? Probably not even if it does I can't use it right now. I just read your filter and will probably read yamatos soon. That is like exactly where I am at at the moment. Also I had that problem with damdy aswell but then this made me feel better about it On April 22 2015 12:12 Damdred wrote:On April 22 2015 11:07 Breshke wrote:
Ohh damdred I forgot to ask. Did you actually want to lynch artanis? Or were you just trying to get stuff to happen? More of the later than the former I think, I don't like artie going about the game like he is though. okay gonna be honest with you here...i don't need everyone to townread me and i get that you just came out of a scumgame with me, but that some of these townreads of yours are so fucking thin and the core of your "non-concrete sorta scum" is poe oh rsoul and yama were townreading each other is pretty bullshit in my eyes i'll take another look at everyone tomorrow when i'm less irritated, but it's not happening tonight quite simply, when you don't have scumreads that's usually a bad sign. but i've just come out of a game where you were town and defaulting to plynches so...though i still think your scumreads are even less noteworthy this game than in that one, i need to reread everything tomorrow Yeah im bad at scum and my meta is i cant push on people but you arn't using that in context if you are town. Do you have a scumread yourself? No you are pushing BH with me. This is a smaller game and you yourself don't have a scumread so I don't understand why you would try compare this game to my scum meta when obviously if you are town it isn't that easy to find scum this game. Just coming out of a game where you being scum does affect my reads. I realize im probably biast hence why I was letting it go and trying to egt more information but frankly you are very similar this game to last. You're in the thread commenting on stuff but you arn't actually doing anything. that is exactly why i have no desire to play tonight if ppl can honest to god sit here and say (not just you) that i haven't been doing anything this game you're illiterate or scum or just plain bad and it's pissing me off to the point that i don't think i can approach this game objectively lol i myself don't have a scumread? i haven't been doing anything? you think because I'm voting BH right now I don't have a scumread?! i've said what i think about pretty much every player in the game and you have the fucking gall to say i haven't pushed anyone, pointed anything out, come to any conclusions, have any scumreads >< you know what, if you're scum and your purpose was to put me on tilt, congratulations. you've succeeded. i wouldn't even put it past you to be scum with yamato hoping to try to establish a connection between me and him, making this arbitrary association between us every opportunity you get...well screw that ><i'm not doing this tonight -_- i'll revisit in the morning Like that bolded bit is so weird to come from someone who has been townreading yamato all game but i get if she is town she is frustrated but I don't put it past her to be able to fake it as scum. So basically give me your read on her. Really like this post. Breshke you town bro? Like....this explanation for the oddness really isn't enough. You go from 'slightly less townread' on yamato to full on scum setting you up, and the paranoia doesn't look real. The rage might be though, and it would be hypocritical of me to assume otherwise.
don't care >< it's a shitty ass association with bresh anyway...he should be fine with that since he's all for shitty-ass association scumreads right now anyway ^^ since he's already aligned me with yamato saying we were pushing the same things when we weren't multiple times, no, it wouldn't fucking surprise me if yamato flips scum that breshke is his partner and trying to draw that association
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On April 22 2015 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno if I see scum working so closely together, like ever. And even then as you've acknowledged, bad association read.
And where IS yamato anyway?
yes it's shitty and reactionary and is why it means nothing -_- or probably means nothing, but i have seen it done before so blah to that
On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell.
lol well whoopdidoo you're wrong on at least one of us (and most of the game disagrees with you on me) so it doesn't damn well matter if two people you're not townreading are townreading each other, however lightly. a real scumread would be nice, since you're now backpedaling...why the fuck are you softing scum on to me if you've got literally nothing but that bs?
meh -_-
i don't like bh's wall >< he can die
a couple of the points had a touch of validity to them...mainly the shift from bh to artie on a whim and playing with the 24 hr mark...but it's mostly narrative and he's provided no other reads, which seems to me like he's hoping to ride out the omg look at how many pretty words that was!
that instead of giving other reads he just complains i asked for something more concise doesn't make me feel any better about it either ^^
see, i'm capable of rationality and won't just vote you even though you not having scumreads is a scumtell of yours, breshke, and not a scumtell for me
i've also expressed suspicion of artanis and damdred...i want to reread yamato since so many people have problems with him and that's mostly a toneread for me
and again not filter-diving tonight so yeah
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i'm capable of talking -_- i'm just not in a good place to try to reevaluate anything right now
obviously i have scumreads, or at least scumleans, so asking me again is not helpful when i just talked about it in the post you quoted that from ^^ and no i don't care if self-meta is bad, considering it doesn't even apply in this case
as for you, bh, if i was applying your philosophy i'd simply refuse to talk to you about damdred
your post is overblown. i don't like it. you haven't commented on anything else, and literally everything you actually brought up in that case has been said before. frankly, it's like a giant steaming turd of conjecture and unoriginality ^^
damdy i started to like later in the day, then he started playing with the deadline and i didn't like that. if y'all want more you're gonna have to wait
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On April 22 2015 14:56 Breshke wrote:
Okay rso we can leave it for now like im not going to get anything more from this right now with you that is fairly obvious.
Like im not associating you with yamato. Yes i said youve had eachother as town for a larger portion of the game it doesn't mean i think you are together. I specifically said in one of my posts that i wouldn't be able to use that information. Like I don't think ive mentioned yamato at all this game other than pointing him out with you two town reading eachother but that is only because I don't town read either of you so it is odd to me.
Anyway who do you want to lynch or are you leaving. I don't care if you have explained this before please don't tell me to look into your filter im asking because im trying to move the conversation on and i still don't care about bh's wall yet until he starts doing other stuff aswell.
that's what i'm talking about on the backpedaling...you said you had nothing concrete in the way of scumreads then brought that point up...saying it was odd xP if you're gonna tell me that's not softing a scumread that's just bs
i appreciate the room, though -_-
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point out a single original thing in that wall bh, and if you can, i will apologize to you and talk to you about damdy till the cows come home, so long as you're willing to discuss like literally anything else as well ^^
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On April 22 2015 15:27 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 15:23 rsoultin wrote:
point out a single original thing in that wall bh, and if you can, i will apologize to you and talk to you about damdy till the cows come home, so long as you're willing to discuss like literally anything else as well ^^ So, since bits and pieces of it have been mentioned by others, me gathering it in one place is so offensive to your sensibilities that you refuse to discuss it? Fine, pretend it's not a post and I'm just summarizing thread sentiment, if that's what it takes for you to talk about the best case. I don't care whether or not it's framed as whatever. I don't care what your opinion is of me. I 100% promise that I will talk about other things, like why Yamato77 hasn't responded to the case, for example, but the fact of the matter is, you have a responsibility as a lesser player to follow my lead on this, or, failing that, respond to my case in a way that demonstrates WHY you disagree with the points. You can't just say "oh yeah, it's a narrative, and narratives are bad" or something. That's not even, like, an objection, man. Damdred's thought process _does not make sense_. The fact that you were unwilling to find the summary at the bottom initially doesn't give you a right to have a zealous vendetta against talking to the best player in the game about the best case in the game. Get it together
you know what ^^ fuck you
gathering it all in one place makes you a librarian, not town, and again it looks like a gambit to get townread, cause i've seen your cases as town and they can actually be followed much easier than that shit
you're probably joking (i'd hope) but even a complete imbecile would be able to tell this 100% is not the time to pull the arrogant look down from your ego-throne card on me right now ><
good night
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i liked this assessment btw, bresh :/ i'm sorry if you're town, and lol i suppose you probably are >< that looks like a town breshke post to me
it kinda just upsets me a little more though...so i'm glad you got your job ^^; i'm actually a little stressed out right now (military service ends next monday and i'm still trying to get things worked out cause nothing's going right ><) and don't like to feel like i'd be just as well off filling a spot and saying or doing nothing the way you and truffle were talking so...i think it's better if i don't return to the game until i can get this better under control tomorrow
On April 22 2015 15:25 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 14:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Breshke let her cool down and talk to me about BH's monstrosity and Damdred for a bit.
Did you read that post? Do you have any primary thoughts? Sorry i actually didn't see this. I like skim read through it skipped a few bits in the end/middle. I feel bad on commenting on stuff like that before reading it properly because if bh is town or scum he obviously put a lot of effort into it for me to just come and be like didnt read it here's what i think. Anyway first off i don't like how it feels like he was trying to push scum on what felt like every single thing that damdred has posted. I don't think if someone is scum that they are scum in all their posts if that makes sense. Some of the early stuff I think bh had a problem with can be explained by damdred thinking it was standard IML and then being told it wasn't(this is referring to the throwing away vote thing) . I can see how BH would miss this as if you read damdreds filter (I assume this is what happend) and not the game you wouldn't really get the grasp of that. Then i don't really rememebr much else from it other than the point about him voting artanis after BH came in with his excuse that damdred predicted. I liked this point and it is odd but damdred did say to me that his vote on artanis was trying to make stuff happen so i can see a world where he would push on artanis instead of BH here because more people would react to the artanis push whereas a push on bh would get put down as a plynch
nite wave, bresh <3 thanks for putting up with me
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-_- not to be an ass but we've said similar things several times this game breskhe, including during the yamato/wave fight when i first thought you might be town after all, and you've been treating me like i'm a slug
i agree that usually when we're both town we tend to think similarly, so that was bugging me eh
really going now ><
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we need to lynch BH here...i'll explain why later but what it basically amounts to is he keeps finding reasons to contribute as little as possible while still playing on our sensibilities not to lynch him ^^
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umm, wave, if he's scum, he's scum. i'm saying that the way he's gone about the game ever since the day started is specifically designed to gain himself more time. and you're getting hung up on the wording? who do you even want to lynch if not bh?
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lol palmar? palmar is probably town here -_-
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okay, wave. vote bh with me
i'm looking through filters, and i'll discuss anyone you want...even start with the people you're suspicious of...however i think you're fully aware that voting bh is not "solely" because he's stalling lol ><
yes, he's stalling but he also wrote a giant-ass case with little-to-no original content, he's refused to talk about anything else, and he deliberately provoked me ^^ i've seen his town-game and this doesn't look like it
he was similarly useless then, but not to this extent
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On April 23 2015 00:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Complain about context or narratives all you want, Damdred has never shown a shred of town motivation or logic yo his read progression. If my truth is too much for you then lynch me and behold the spectacle of your incompetence. I suppose the time when one could only be available for five hours per day have passed, even though I have possibly written and thought about this game more than everyone else. I will not bow to your disgusting threats. I will not be coerced into becoming something worse for your twisted ideals.
If I'm alive when I get home I'll save us all. Otherwise, should I die for your ignorance, I will view the departure with as much relief as disgust.
hard to become much worse ^^
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On April 23 2015 00:48 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay, wave. vote bh with me
i'm looking through filters, and i'll discuss anyone you want...even start with the people you're suspicious of...however i think you're fully aware that voting bh is not "solely" because he's stalling lol ><
yes, he's stalling but he also wrote a giant-ass case with little-to-no original content, he's refused to talk about anything else, and he deliberately provoked me ^^ i've seen his town-game and this doesn't look like it
he was similarly useless then, but not to this extent
Speaking of deliberately provoking...anyway. You have a townread on Trfel currently, yes? How does it jive with Artanis' read and these things here? Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 04:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 22 2015 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case. Same thing as per to rsoultin above; no stick in meta reads so that's all the same to me. Is it weird that I've come to expect Palmar being Palmar and was curious as to you prodding him for vote reasoning? Palmar seemed to suggest he did have a reason for voting you, so getting it out seems like a good idea. I'm surprised you got anything tbh. And yeah I dunno if I see anything scummy in Trfel's posting either although the question about you Artanis did look a little 'testing the waters' to me. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 07:49 Trfel wrote:On April 22 2015 07:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
OK but what's your intent then? It's understandable not to want to lynch in the next hour or whatever, but was the whole point just to explain to damdred how poorly he's behaving? What is that supposed to accomplish? I was trying to put something into practice, to actually demonstrate it, instead of using words. Clearly that didn't actually get anything done. I've shown why I think Damdred's play is suspicious. And I do think that voting Artanis is bad at this time. I've already said why I think that his reaction to my pressure with yamato77 was towny. He's been focused and asking questions, getting information, getting discussion started. I'm not going to ignore that and lynch him because I disagree with one of his opinions, especially given the way he responded when questioned. I'm extremely surprised that Damdred would just lynch Artanis for this. On April 22 2015 07:52 Damdred wrote:
I think you put way to much importance on votes in this setup specifically. Nobody is getting lynched today Sooo yea No but that's exactly my point. The value of voting absolutely should not be devalued just because we've decided not to lynch today specifically. Trfel if you think someone is scummy you vote them, how long we have for discussion today isn't the primary focus. It looks extremely odd that you throw suspicion on damdred going so far as to vote him,and then when your 'point' doesn't come across you unvote him. If this were a regular game what would that appear to be?
not sure if this is directed at me or not, but i have to run to the VA cause none of their online services have been working all week ^^
i'll talk to you about truffle later, but i don't know how useful that will be since you're not a fan of meta...suffice it to say that the last time i tunneled him when he was actually town it was for a very awkward, poorly executed pressure vote for me to stop posting silliness -_- mafia down under, the one that was broken by host intervention
apart from that singular game i've been right on his alignment 100%...as either alignment
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town cause yeah probably or something
truffle
wave
bresh
probably town for reasons i can't begin to explain and can only call feels -_-
palmar
yama
nh...yeah, nh
damdy
scummy
artie
lynch it
bh
aaaand i'd claim this was after extensive rereading but frankly it's almost completely intuitive lol ><
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On April 23 2015 05:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Trfel incapable of basic math apparently, or lying.
lol what are you talking about, wave?
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so now that you've read the entire thread you can solve it for us, right? xP i've retired from the "annoying prodder" role. carry me
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