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On April 22 2015 12:06 Trfel wrote: Eh, never mind.You guys stay around, okay? When I finish reading the thread, I need people to talk to. I think I need a break. See you guys tomorrow. | ||
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I reread about the first half of the thread. Damdred is very likely to be town here, despite my earlier read. His play actually does have direction and focus. Furthermore, someone pointed out that mafia Damdred plays to survive. Damdred isn't playing to survive here; smaller post count (at least in the first half of the thread) aside, Damdred's tone is extremely relaxed, and he did that strange list post to try and draw questions about it. Damdred here is enjoying the game, and playing for fun, which makes him quite likely to be town. WaveofShadow is also town here. His play makes sense from a town perspective throughout, both when he thought that the game was Instant Majority and when he realized what the vote format is. Again, WaveofShadow's play shows some inconsistencies, but they are in the details and I actually think that they make him more likely to be town (I explained one of them a few posts back). Breshke is probably town here as well. I was a bit put off by the way that he defended WaveofShadow when it wasn't necessary, but the comment he gave was absolutely correct, and the way that he posted afterwards seemed genuine. He's been providing useful points and good thoughts this game, and that is a sign of town Breshke. I think that yamato77 could be mafia here. I'm not going to go into it in detail, but it's just an impression that I get. He makes several comments picking on people's play, and only later attaching an alignment to it (ironically, one example of this is Breshke defending WaveofShadow without taking a stance on WaveofShadow's alignment.... yamato77 only takes an actual stance on Breshke later). Furthermore, yamato77 wanted to point out one of WaveofShadow's statements that had no value (it was a null read on himself), but didn't arrive at any conclusions about WaveofShadow's alignment from this. Yamato77 does seem a bit overly concerned with people's reads on himself. I might be gone for a while. Good luck, and happy scumhunting! | ||
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Artanis is probably town, though I haven't carefully read the section of the thread in which he was posting. His questions are not only motivated at making reads, but also increasing the thread motivation. While he could do this as scum, I don't think it's terribly likely. In addition to the way that he responded to my pressure on him (previously described), I feel that Artanis is likely town. And Blazinghand could very well be scum. I didn't want to say it earlier in case he would hear that he was under pressure and change his play, but everyone's already talking about it. Blazinghand is willing to go to any length to survive. Furthermore, I don't actually think that his post comes in a town mindset. Town wouldn't sign up for a game and not even have time to read the thread. Town would glance over a few pages and provide at least a few thoughts to go on. Town wouldn't necessarily ask for a no-lynch on Day 1, town would trust that if other people wanted to lynch someone, that they would have good reasons for doing so, and wouldn't force themselves to be present. Town wouldn't set a hard deadline. His post feels more motivated by someone wanting to survive, than the actual words that he says. Good enough for me for now. ##vote Blazinghand | ||
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On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Still catching up on the thread.Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case. But would it be possible to get an explanation of this? What does it mean to "pull a bit of character"? Thanks! | ||
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I'm not scum. Let me prove it. ##unvote ##vote Blazinghand Hammer vote is mine! | ||
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On April 23 2015 05:08 WaveofShadow wrote: Do explain?Trfel incapable of basic math apparently, or lying. | ||
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On April 23 2015 05:12 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm on page 26 right now. Let me finish. I'm not making excuses.And once again, how the hell have you taken so long to 'catch up with the thread?' Like, a bunch of other people flat out profess to not have read it but you would rather make excuses for not reading a 20 page game? | ||
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On April 23 2015 05:45 rsoultin wrote: Working on it, but yamato77 is annoying. My explanation of why he is scum doesn't fit into any of my typical case formats, so I might have to improvise a bit.so now that you've read the entire thread you can solve it for us, right? xP i've retired from the "annoying prodder" role. carry me | ||
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On April 23 2015 05:48 Trfel wrote: Never mind about this, really.Working on it, but yamato77 is annoying. My explanation of why he is scum doesn't fit into any of my typical case formats, so I might have to improvise a bit. In the end there isn't much that sticks on yamato77. He's mostly been focusing on irrelevant things and not driving the thread direction in ways which I feel are the best, but that doesn't make him scum. | ||
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On April 23 2015 06:05 rsoultin wrote: Yeah, in retrospect, Artanis hasn't been doing as much as I thought. What he has been doing, though, has been in the right direction. I'm not sure how much of this is due to his post count restriction, and how much of it is due to my annoying him yesterday.talk to me about artie and damdy -flops on- or about part of my list you disagree with artie just seems...i dunnae, like people keep saying he's doing stuff but off the top of my head i can't really recall what aside from being charitable about my negative toneread on his entrance vote xP Damdred's tone looks really good for him here. And while some of the things he is doing seem strange, I don't see the mafia motivation, and he has seemingly tried to get more information into the thread. I don't think that he is scum. | ||
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On April 23 2015 06:10 WaveofShadow wrote: Right now I'm not really sure about his alignment, so he's null. I'm not going to meta read him unless I have to, and even then I'm really bad at meta reads.He scum read Trfel. And actually as I recall that read is mostly based on meta and contrary to your read soniv kind of interested to see how that plays out. Also don't quite get that yamato read Trfel. | ||
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On April 23 2015 06:15 rsoultin wrote: I think that Artanis's scumread of me actually looks good for him. He makes a good point, and that's the sort of read that I expect from him. Would he do that as mafia? Not sure, but I think that he knows that he won't mislynch me this game (or at least, he will need much more evidence first).well, that's easy, wave lol >< i'm right the really question is whether or not it's reasonable for artie to be wrong about truffle and still town  (truffle is a super easy read imo) meh guess i should actually read artanis' filter :/ I'm still leaning town on Artanis, though is absence is concerning me. Does he agree with the Blazinghand wagon? If not, he should be here and trying to stop it. At the time of his last post, there were four votes on Blazinghand. If anything looks suspicious, that is it. He doesn't care if Blazinghand is lynched or not. | ||
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Artanis did comment on Blazinghand, first not convinced that he was scum due to his case, and then felt that it was an okay lynch due to the followup. Maybe I need to get my eyes checked. It isn't a very large or amazing amount of information on Blazinghand, but I suppose I can see it from the perspective who sees an okay lynch, but also sees everyone ignoring what is (in his opinion) a better lynch. | ||
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On April 23 2015 06:34 rsoultin wrote: It seemed to me that Artanis would be back later to finish his read on me.mmm or maybe just benching the read for later? okay i guess i can give artie some space to see what comes of this Artanis is sort of null, I suppose, given both his semi-weak stance on Blazinghand and not having the thread leadership that I thought he did at a glance. I expect scum to be among Artanis, yamato77, and maybe Breshke, even though I can't demonstrate that any of them are clear scum yet. | ||
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But from what I've heard of Blazinghand, I'm not sure that this actually makes him mafia? Would he play to live, at all costs, as town? | ||
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