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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 15:08 GMT
#481
okay, wave. vote bh with me

i'm looking through filters, and i'll discuss anyone you want...even start with the people you're suspicious of...however i think you're fully aware that voting bh is not "solely" because he's stalling lol ><

yes, he's stalling but he also wrote a giant-ass case with little-to-no original content, he's refused to talk about anything else, and he deliberately provoked me ^^ i've seen his town-game and this doesn't look like it

he was similarly useless then, but not to this extent

"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 22 2015 15:10 GMT
#482
On April 23 2015 00:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Complain about context or narratives all you want, Damdred has never shown a shred of town motivation or logic yo his read progression. If my truth is too much for you then lynch me and behold the spectacle of your incompetence. I suppose the time when one could only be available for five hours per day have passed, even though I have possibly written and thought about this game more than everyone else. I will not bow to your disgusting threats. I will not be coerced into becoming something worse for your twisted ideals.

If I'm alive when I get home I'll save us all. Otherwise, should I die for your ignorance, I will view the departure with as much relief as disgust.


hard to become much worse ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 22 2015 15:24 GMT
#483
On April 23 2015 00:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay, wave. vote bh with me

i'm looking through filters, and i'll discuss anyone you want...even start with the people you're suspicious of...however i think you're fully aware that voting bh is not "solely" because he's stalling lol ><

yes, he's stalling but he also wrote a giant-ass case with little-to-no original content, he's refused to talk about anything else, and he deliberately provoked me ^^ i've seen his town-game and this doesn't look like it

he was similarly useless then, but not to this extent


I do enjoy hammering.
Gimme a bit to eat and we will discuss things.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
April 22 2015 15:25 GMT
#484
On April 23 2015 00:10 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Complain about context or narratives all you want, Damdred has never shown a shred of town motivation or logic yo his read progression. If my truth is too much for you then lynch me and behold the spectacle of your incompetence. I suppose the time when one could only be available for five hours per day have passed, even though I have possibly written and thought about this game more than everyone else. I will not bow to your disgusting threats. I will not be coerced into becoming something worse for your twisted ideals.

If I'm alive when I get home I'll save us all. Otherwise, should I die for your ignorance, I will view the departure with as much relief as disgust.


hard to become much worse ^^


I hope you're scum. I'd still respect you if that's the case. In fact, if you're scum, this has been some masterful play.

The fact that you're giving some kind of meta read on my "usefulness" or something (note: without evidence, of course; nobody who incorrectly meta reads me as scum ever provides evidence, they just wave hands) shows your incompetence/scumminess. The fact that people are going to lynch me instead of just waiting another 72 hours shows that people have forgotten that cases are like, a thing.

Like, legit, Damdred's thought process isn't real. There's definitely something wrong with it. You could easily read his filter, or my case, which is NOT a monstrosity, it's not even in the top 10 longest cases I've written (I've hit then 100,000 character limit before on single posts I think) and see for yourself.

Let me live another 24 hours, delay the majority, and I'll save this town like I do all towns I play in.

Kill me and reap the consequences.

This is the only defense I will offer. I have shit to do today. Any town player who's on me who won't just wait until this evening for me to do more is making a terrible mistake.

I'm hoping to get lynched, a little bit, so I can lord this all over you. I'm hoping even more that I get lynched, and Damdred does turn out to be scum. Then you'll never play a game without me mentioning the time you lynched me and ended the day rather than listening to what I had to say about the scum player.

So come on, do it.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 22 2015 15:26 GMT
#485
On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'

Gj

Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote?

I don't like his unwillingness to comment on other things. I don't like his case on Damdred particularly either. As has been said, it's a narrative. Seems like a good chance to flip scum.

I need to do some more work on Trfel and flesh my read on him out but I have to leave for theater in a sec. Will get something done later tonight. Kinda annoyed no one's commented on him since I called him scummy but you though.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
April 22 2015 15:27 GMT
#486
what's a "narrative"

wtf

it's a post by post analysis, of course it's "narrative", I'm literally narrating what the dude did, how is that even an objection to it. that's like saying "it's a case" therefore it's bad
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 22 2015 15:27 GMT
#487
On April 23 2015 00:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'

Gj

Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote?

I don't like his unwillingness to comment on other things. I don't like his case on Damdred particularly either. As has been said, it's a narrative. Seems like a good chance to flip scum.

I need to do some more work on Trfel and flesh my read on him out but I have to leave for theater in a sec. Will get something done later tonight. Kinda annoyed no one's commented on him since I called him scummy but you though.

I have a few things to say about him. Me and rsoul will talk.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:28 GMT
#488
On April 22 2015 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 23:28 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2015 21:18 Breshke wrote:
Palmar you are obviously ignoring the context though. From what I understand the thrid vote in IML can be seen as safe for scum as they vote on a misslynch but arnt the creator of the push nor one of the hammers. Therefore one could say that scum might join a wagon at this time to blend into town while still getting the misslynch they need. So while WoS said the vote was safe he ment it was safe way for scum to try and secure a misslynch.

Yes a third vote in this type of instant misslynch is even safer but in context it doesn't move towards scums goal of getting a misslynch as a push that early is not likely to be sustained over a 24 hour period. So yes while you are strictly right that the vote was infact safer it can't be seen as pushing for a misslynch as much.



I don't even care about the context.

He did something because of X
Then it turns out X was even more right than he initially thought
So he retracts because of X

This makes no logical sense, thus he must be mafia.

To be precises.

He retracted NOT because of this new information he had gained. He retracted BECAUSE HE WANTED TO RETRACT and used this new information as an excuse to do so.


Yeah palmar that's blatantly untrue, you're just as bad as BH inventing your own narrative for why I did what I did. Early votes in what barely amounts to an IML game aren't as indicative as those when every cote counts all the time.

'safety' isn't a factor when the votes 2h into a game generally don't mean shit.


If safety isn't a factor why did you say breshke could be mafia for a safe vote?

Also don't worry about it. These morons will never lynch you because reasons.
Computer says mafia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 22 2015 15:28 GMT
#489
It means you're just pointing out things and creating a story behind why it makes him scum when it's just as possible to create a story behind it from a town perspective.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:29 GMT
#490
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 22 2015 15:31 GMT
#491
On April 23 2015 00:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2015 23:28 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2015 21:18 Breshke wrote:
Palmar you are obviously ignoring the context though. From what I understand the thrid vote in IML can be seen as safe for scum as they vote on a misslynch but arnt the creator of the push nor one of the hammers. Therefore one could say that scum might join a wagon at this time to blend into town while still getting the misslynch they need. So while WoS said the vote was safe he ment it was safe way for scum to try and secure a misslynch.

Yes a third vote in this type of instant misslynch is even safer but in context it doesn't move towards scums goal of getting a misslynch as a push that early is not likely to be sustained over a 24 hour period. So yes while you are strictly right that the vote was infact safer it can't be seen as pushing for a misslynch as much.



I don't even care about the context.

He did something because of X
Then it turns out X was even more right than he initially thought
So he retracts because of X

This makes no logical sense, thus he must be mafia.

To be precises.

He retracted NOT because of this new information he had gained. He retracted BECAUSE HE WANTED TO RETRACT and used this new information as an excuse to do so.


Yeah palmar that's blatantly untrue, you're just as bad as BH inventing your own narrative for why I did what I did. Early votes in what barely amounts to an IML game aren't as indicative as those when every cote counts all the time.

'safety' isn't a factor when the votes 2h into a game generally don't mean shit.


If safety isn't a factor why did you say breshke could be mafia for a safe vote?

Also don't worry about it. These morons will never lynch you because reasons.

lol wtf are you talking about? Now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Of course I said safety is a factor, IF IT'S IML, OR the lynch is about to go down with some urgency. Breshke absolutely could have been mafia for a 'safe' vote in an IML game where I could have literally been lynched if any two other people decided to derp for shits and giggles. I've seen it happen.

Safety is NOT a factor 2h into this game. How many votes are taken seriously 2h into a standard game?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:31 GMT
#492
Btw, status report (I haven't really read the game)

Sorta townie:

Trfel
rsoultin

Maybe townie

artanis
yamato
breshke

Not read a single post:

Damdred
BH

Mafia

WoS
Computer says mafia
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
April 22 2015 15:31 GMT
#493
On April 23 2015 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It means you're just pointing out things and creating a story behind why it makes him scum when it's just as possible to create a story behind it from a town perspective.


so whenever anyone says "narrative", they're just saying I'm wrong without explaining why or using specifics. kk
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 22 2015 15:31 GMT
#494
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:32 GMT
#495
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:28 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2015 23:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 22 2015 23:28 Palmar wrote:
On April 22 2015 21:18 Breshke wrote:
Palmar you are obviously ignoring the context though. From what I understand the thrid vote in IML can be seen as safe for scum as they vote on a misslynch but arnt the creator of the push nor one of the hammers. Therefore one could say that scum might join a wagon at this time to blend into town while still getting the misslynch they need. So while WoS said the vote was safe he ment it was safe way for scum to try and secure a misslynch.

Yes a third vote in this type of instant misslynch is even safer but in context it doesn't move towards scums goal of getting a misslynch as a push that early is not likely to be sustained over a 24 hour period. So yes while you are strictly right that the vote was infact safer it can't be seen as pushing for a misslynch as much.



I don't even care about the context.

He did something because of X
Then it turns out X was even more right than he initially thought
So he retracts because of X

This makes no logical sense, thus he must be mafia.

To be precises.

He retracted NOT because of this new information he had gained. He retracted BECAUSE HE WANTED TO RETRACT and used this new information as an excuse to do so.


Yeah palmar that's blatantly untrue, you're just as bad as BH inventing your own narrative for why I did what I did. Early votes in what barely amounts to an IML game aren't as indicative as those when every cote counts all the time.

'safety' isn't a factor when the votes 2h into a game generally don't mean shit.


If safety isn't a factor why did you say breshke could be mafia for a safe vote?

Also don't worry about it. These morons will never lynch you because reasons.

lol wtf are you talking about? Now you're just putting words in my mouth.
Of course I said safety is a factor, IF IT'S IML, OR the lynch is about to go down with some urgency. Breshke absolutely could have been mafia for a 'safe' vote in an IML game where I could have literally been lynched if any two other people decided to derp for shits and giggles. I've seen it happen.

Safety is NOT a factor 2h into this game. How many votes are taken seriously 2h into a standard game?


oh I get what you're saying.

You're still mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:32 GMT
#496
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

I am playing the game. Please stop antagonizing me it's really annoying.
Computer says mafia
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 22 2015 15:33 GMT
#497
On April 23 2015 00:31 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It means you're just pointing out things and creating a story behind why it makes him scum when it's just as possible to create a story behind it from a town perspective.


so whenever anyone says "narrative", they're just saying I'm wrong without explaining why or using specifics. kk

Not true.
It's just exceedingly simply to go through someone's filter post-by-post and say whatever you want about them to spin things in a specific light.

My issue with you isn't even that specifically, I find that alignment non-indicative. My issue is the fact that you haven't read the thread and took everything damdred did completely out of context.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
April 22 2015 15:33 GMT
#498
On April 23 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

I am playing the game. Please stop antagonizing me it's really annoying.

You first.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:34 GMT
#499
On April 23 2015 00:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:32 Palmar wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

I am playing the game. Please stop antagonizing me it's really annoying.

You first.

I am not antagonizing you, I think you're mafia.

During the time that I've been trying to get you lynched you haven't even pretended to care about my alignment in the slightest, instead choosing to attack me personally or just calling everything I'm doing shit.

This makes you mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
April 22 2015 15:38 GMT
#500
I could be wrong you know? There's no need to be a dick about it if I am. Although your responses of complete dismissal, instead of actually using me building a case on you to investigate my alignment, make you look even worse than what I said during my case.

On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
You want someone to pressure into playing?
There's your perfect example.

##vote:palmar

I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it.


On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'

Gj

Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote?


On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.

That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.

Computer says mafia
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