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You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit.
If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here.
On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else.
As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry.
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To me it simply looks like you don't actually care about my alignment at all.
Whatever, we'll see.
Maybe people will join me. That'd be rad. It's not like I'm always wrong on day 1.
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On April 23 2015 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit. If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here. Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else. As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry.
Who's mafia then?
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On April 23 2015 00:38 Palmar wrote:I could be wrong you know? There's no need to be a dick about it if I am. Although your responses of complete dismissal, instead of actually using me building a case on you to investigate my alignment, make you look even worse than what I said during my case. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
You want someone to pressure into playing?
There's your perfect example.
##vote:palmar
I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'
Gj
Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote? Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else. That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us.
I don't think I'm being a dick in the slightest. I haven't attacked you personally, I've attacked your play. There are how many other people in this game Palmar? Even IF I'm scum, that doesn't solve the game, and there's stuff to be done, but you're stuck tunneling on me here, not contributing to any other conversation and not finding other scum. How is that good play exactly?
I will retract my statements about your afking/barely playing if you actually show you're capable of doing something mroe but so far I don't see it.
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On April 23 2015 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:38 Palmar wrote:I could be wrong you know? There's no need to be a dick about it if I am. Although your responses of complete dismissal, instead of actually using me building a case on you to investigate my alignment, make you look even worse than what I said during my case. On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
You want someone to pressure into playing?
There's your perfect example.
##vote:palmar
I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it. On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'
Gj
Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote? On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else. That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us. I don't think I'm being a dick in the slightest. I haven't attacked you personally, I've attacked your play. There are how many other people in this game Palmar? Even IF I'm scum, that doesn't solve the game, and there's stuff to be done, but you're stuck tunneling on me here, not contributing to any other conversation and not finding other scum. How is that good play exactly? I will retract my statements about your afking/barely playing if you actually show you're capable of doing something mroe but so far I don't see it.
It's good play because you're mafia 
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On April 23 2015 00:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit. If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here. On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else. As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry. Who's mafia then?
Right now I have BH and maybe Trfel.
Who's second scum Palmar?
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On April 23 2015 00:41 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:40 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 23 2015 00:38 Palmar wrote:I could be wrong you know? There's no need to be a dick about it if I am. Although your responses of complete dismissal, instead of actually using me building a case on you to investigate my alignment, make you look even worse than what I said during my case. On April 22 2015 08:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
You want someone to pressure into playing?
There's your perfect example.
##vote:palmar
I fucking hate this. Even if I lose a million games because people keep playing like him I still refuse to condone it. On April 22 2015 21:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
That's your ironclad reasoning palmar? Calling me scum for shit I've already explained in thread and saying 'I don't know what yamato is doing?'
Gj
Artanis any thoughts on BH at all? Did you read what I wrote? On April 23 2015 00:31 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else. That's already what you're doing, your 'case' is shit and I'm not wasting any more time on you. If you feel like actually playing the game then you're welcome to join us. I don't think I'm being a dick in the slightest. I haven't attacked you personally, I've attacked your play. There are how many other people in this game Palmar? Even IF I'm scum, that doesn't solve the game, and there's stuff to be done, but you're stuck tunneling on me here, not contributing to any other conversation and not finding other scum. How is that good play exactly? I will retract my statements about your afking/barely playing if you actually show you're capable of doing something mroe but so far I don't see it. It's good play because you're mafia
See and if this is what I get from you we're done here.
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On April 23 2015 00:42 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:39 Palmar wrote:On April 23 2015 00:38 WaveofShadow wrote:You've barely done anything, and what little you have done has been shit. If you call popping into the thread every 12h screaming 'wave is mafia guise' playing the game then by all means, continue as you've stated here. On April 23 2015 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I wonder if I should just pop in occasionally to remind people WoS is mafia and do nothing else. As far as your alignment goes, I've already stated you're probably town for being like this specifically but I haven't ever been particularly good at reading you with meta or without. In any case, as terribly as you're playing there are people scummier than you thus far despite your inclination to do nothing this game other than yell at everyone how scum I am, so don't worry. Who's mafia then? Right now I have BH and maybe Trfel. Who's second scum Palmar?
I have no idea, it's not like I've read the game.
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I guess I'll read some other people tonight. Wos is mafia though I'm like 63% sure
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On April 23 2015 00:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay, wave. vote bh with me
i'm looking through filters, and i'll discuss anyone you want...even start with the people you're suspicious of...however i think you're fully aware that voting bh is not "solely" because he's stalling lol ><
yes, he's stalling but he also wrote a giant-ass case with little-to-no original content, he's refused to talk about anything else, and he deliberately provoked me ^^ i've seen his town-game and this doesn't look like it
he was similarly useless then, but not to this extent
Speaking of deliberately provoking...anyway.
You have a townread on Trfel currently, yes?
How does it jive with Artanis' read and these things here?
On April 22 2015 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 04:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 22 2015 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case. Same thing as per to rsoultin above; no stick in meta reads so that's all the same to me. Is it weird that I've come to expect Palmar being Palmar and was curious as to you prodding him for vote reasoning? Palmar seemed to suggest he did have a reason for voting you, so getting it out seems like a good idea. I'm surprised you got anything tbh. And yeah I dunno if I see anything scummy in Trfel's posting either although the question about you Artanis did look a little 'testing the waters' to me.
On April 22 2015 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 07:49 Trfel wrote:On April 22 2015 07:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
OK but what's your intent then? It's understandable not to want to lynch in the next hour or whatever, but was the whole point just to explain to damdred how poorly he's behaving? What is that supposed to accomplish? I was trying to put something into practice, to actually demonstrate it, instead of using words. Clearly that didn't actually get anything done. I've shown why I think Damdred's play is suspicious. And I do think that voting Artanis is bad at this time. I've already said why I think that his reaction to my pressure with yamato77 was towny. He's been focused and asking questions, getting information, getting discussion started. I'm not going to ignore that and lynch him because I disagree with one of his opinions, especially given the way he responded when questioned. I'm extremely surprised that Damdred would just lynch Artanis for this. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 07:52 Damdred wrote:
I think you put way to much importance on votes in this setup specifically. Nobody is getting lynched today Sooo yea No but that's exactly my point. The value of voting absolutely should not be devalued just because we've decided not to lynch today specifically. Trfel if you think someone is scummy you vote them, how long we have for discussion today isn't the primary focus. It looks extremely odd that you throw suspicion on damdred going so far as to vote him,and then when your 'point' doesn't come across you unvote him. If this were a regular game what would that appear to be?
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On April 23 2015 00:47 Palmar wrote:
I guess I'll read some other people tonight. Wos is mafia though I'm like 63% sure
I give you full credit for not saying 100%
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On April 23 2015 00:48 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2015 00:08 rsoultin wrote:
okay, wave. vote bh with me
i'm looking through filters, and i'll discuss anyone you want...even start with the people you're suspicious of...however i think you're fully aware that voting bh is not "solely" because he's stalling lol ><
yes, he's stalling but he also wrote a giant-ass case with little-to-no original content, he's refused to talk about anything else, and he deliberately provoked me ^^ i've seen his town-game and this doesn't look like it
he was similarly useless then, but not to this extent
Speaking of deliberately provoking...anyway. You have a townread on Trfel currently, yes? How does it jive with Artanis' read and these things here? Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 04:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 04:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 22 2015 04:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case. Same thing as per to rsoultin above; no stick in meta reads so that's all the same to me. Is it weird that I've come to expect Palmar being Palmar and was curious as to you prodding him for vote reasoning? Palmar seemed to suggest he did have a reason for voting you, so getting it out seems like a good idea. I'm surprised you got anything tbh. And yeah I dunno if I see anything scummy in Trfel's posting either although the question about you Artanis did look a little 'testing the waters' to me. Show nested quote +On April 22 2015 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:On April 22 2015 07:49 Trfel wrote:On April 22 2015 07:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
OK but what's your intent then? It's understandable not to want to lynch in the next hour or whatever, but was the whole point just to explain to damdred how poorly he's behaving? What is that supposed to accomplish? I was trying to put something into practice, to actually demonstrate it, instead of using words. Clearly that didn't actually get anything done. I've shown why I think Damdred's play is suspicious. And I do think that voting Artanis is bad at this time. I've already said why I think that his reaction to my pressure with yamato77 was towny. He's been focused and asking questions, getting information, getting discussion started. I'm not going to ignore that and lynch him because I disagree with one of his opinions, especially given the way he responded when questioned. I'm extremely surprised that Damdred would just lynch Artanis for this. On April 22 2015 07:52 Damdred wrote:
I think you put way to much importance on votes in this setup specifically. Nobody is getting lynched today Sooo yea No but that's exactly my point. The value of voting absolutely should not be devalued just because we've decided not to lynch today specifically. Trfel if you think someone is scummy you vote them, how long we have for discussion today isn't the primary focus. It looks extremely odd that you throw suspicion on damdred going so far as to vote him,and then when your 'point' doesn't come across you unvote him. If this were a regular game what would that appear to be?
not sure if this is directed at me or not, but i have to run to the VA cause none of their online services have been working all week ^^
i'll talk to you about truffle later, but i don't know how useful that will be since you're not a fan of meta...suffice it to say that the last time i tunneled him when he was actually town it was for a very awkward, poorly executed pressure vote for me to stop posting silliness -_- mafia down under, the one that was broken by host intervention
apart from that singular game i've been right on his alignment 100%...as either alignment
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On April 22 2015 04:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hm, I can see what you're saying Wave. Looking back I do feel like he's pulling a bit of a character though, which leads me to believe the confidence thing isn't really alignment indicative in this case. Still catching up on the thread.
But would it be possible to get an explanation of this? What does it mean to "pull a bit of character"?
Thanks!
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Votecount
WaveofShadow(1)- Palmar
Blazinghand(5)-Breshke, rsoultin, Trfel, Damdred, WaveofShadow
Artanis[Xp](1)-yamato77
Damdred(1)-Blazinghand
Trfel(1)-Artanis[Xp]
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch
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I have come to a realization. This entire game seems to think that the third vote on a wagon is a scummy vote.
I'm not scum. Let me prove it.
##unvote
##vote Blazinghand
Hammer vote is mine!
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town cause yeah probably or something
truffle
wave
bresh
probably town for reasons i can't begin to explain and can only call feels -_-
palmar
yama
nh...yeah, nh
damdy
scummy
artie
lynch it
bh
aaaand i'd claim this was after extensive rereading but frankly it's almost completely intuitive lol ><
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Trfel incapable of basic math apparently, or lying.
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On April 23 2015 05:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Trfel incapable of basic math apparently, or lying.
lol what are you talking about, wave?
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