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On April 30 2015 22:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote:On April 30 2015 22:23 rsoultin wrote:
lol
palmar, you've bussed teammates before, i don't think anyone's saying you're incapable of finding scum day 1 xP that would be ludicrous
i find it kinda difficult to believe the entirety of your scumread is based on you think artanis should have sheeped you though xP This is why you're bad and you won't be better until you recognize this flaw. You're looking at the what when you should be looking at the how. It's completely irrelevant whether or not I have bused teammates before. I've played about a million games of mafia and I've probably pulled just about any strategy under the sun out at some point. If you want to actually try to be less shit, you need to start looking at each individual case and check it against what you think. I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion. So... how do you do this? You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate? Go forth and try. You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all. i'm not interested in arguing with town xP stop defending yourself when no one is lynching you it just makes me want to really be awful and spite vote you for lolz I won't be satisfied until you kiss the footsteps of your lord and savior town jesus.
lol i've played too many games with you to do that xP
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On April 30 2015 22:44 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 21:58 rsoultin wrote:
o.0
breeeesh i was just about to say you were looking better today and drop my vote on palmar
##vote Palmar
which i think i'm gonna do anyway, unless there's a good reason i won't be home by deadline, but
lol wth is that last bit? >< Rso im confused but for clarity in this post why did you think I was looking better today
at first you seemed to come out the gates with an interest in solving the game and narrowing the lynch pool instead of trying to keep your options open, and i didn't really have the same issues with the artanis post as he did lol >< i'm used to the truffle/breshke waffle...however...your response to him calling you out on it was very strange o.0
not necessarily even scummy strange just strange
like...um...how could posts about you make you not read that part of his filter? xP that's just weird, and because it was so weird it sounds made-up
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On April 30 2015 22:56 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2015 22:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:50 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:42 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations Basically you seemed to ignore everything that happened end of D2, start of D3. The whole Wave/Yamato thing. My alignment. Like I said, your conclusion was half-assed. "These things make him town but there's this one contradiction that makes me go eh but I think he's town enough that I don't want to lynch him this cycle". When you're this uncertain as town, one usually digs in a little bit more. So no that isn't most of the game. Also i don't think you look as amazing from not lynching yamato as you think you do. Why as scum could you not have that out to lynch yamato and not take it to make yourself look better. If yamato gets lynched and flips town most likely wave gets lynched the next day anyway its just wifom. How do you want me to dig in? The palmar stuff i found not important in context because you picked up the wagon later on. The trfel stuff was a contradiction yes and i still don't like it but why can't someone who is town do something that doesn't make sense to me. Of course most of the game was an over exaggeration. The point was you didn't consider certain pretty vital aspects. As for Wave getting lynched next, I'd argue there was a good chance that you'd get lynched the day after with Rso going after your ass. There were three realistic lynches: Yamato, You, Wave. With Wave and my Presence and Palmar not really being heard and you townreading Wave it would've definitely been possible. What I meant is that you didn't look at everything yet you weren't convinced one way or the other. I find it weird that you just stopped. I was convinced though so your point is invalid. You said you were convinced enough to not want to lynch me this cycle. That doesn't sound particularly convinced overall. Because the next cycle if we don't lynch scum is 5 player lylo im not going to say im never lynching you because ill obviously relook at things I can see how this could look like I wasn't making a solid conclusion but it's just me not wanting to give a definitive thing which thinking about it is fairy scummy. I think ill go to bed.
also explain this -_-
and no one but breshke, guys
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On May 01 2015 06:37 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2015 06:20 rsoultin wrote:On April 30 2015 22:56 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:50 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:42 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On April 30 2015 22:29 Breshke wrote:On April 30 2015 22:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Being right doesn't mean those were the things that made him mafia. In the end, what made him mafia was that he was just commenting on things and didn't actually try to hunt for scum.
I'm pretty sure you don't actually think I'm mafia and you're just mad. Stop getting mad and figure out the game. I don't actually think you'd be this much of a dick as mafia so it's between Breshke and Yamato. I'm currently edging towards Breshke for really not thinking about the game critically and in his evaluation on me he didn't really come to a strong conclusion yet still ignored large parts of the game. Ignore large parts of the game? I ignored you and trfel not switching to yamato? what else did i ignore? What do you think i didn't think about critically? Why does rsoultin start liking me for my recent posting and artanis starts disliking me. At least im meeting palmars expectations Basically you seemed to ignore everything that happened end of D2, start of D3. The whole Wave/Yamato thing. My alignment. Like I said, your conclusion was half-assed. "These things make him town but there's this one contradiction that makes me go eh but I think he's town enough that I don't want to lynch him this cycle". When you're this uncertain as town, one usually digs in a little bit more. So no that isn't most of the game. Also i don't think you look as amazing from not lynching yamato as you think you do. Why as scum could you not have that out to lynch yamato and not take it to make yourself look better. If yamato gets lynched and flips town most likely wave gets lynched the next day anyway its just wifom. How do you want me to dig in? The palmar stuff i found not important in context because you picked up the wagon later on. The trfel stuff was a contradiction yes and i still don't like it but why can't someone who is town do something that doesn't make sense to me. Of course most of the game was an over exaggeration. The point was you didn't consider certain pretty vital aspects. As for Wave getting lynched next, I'd argue there was a good chance that you'd get lynched the day after with Rso going after your ass. There were three realistic lynches: Yamato, You, Wave. With Wave and my Presence and Palmar not really being heard and you townreading Wave it would've definitely been possible. What I meant is that you didn't look at everything yet you weren't convinced one way or the other. I find it weird that you just stopped. I was convinced though so your point is invalid. You said you were convinced enough to not want to lynch me this cycle. That doesn't sound particularly convinced overall. Because the next cycle if we don't lynch scum is 5 player lylo im not going to say im never lynching you because ill obviously relook at things I can see how this could look like I wasn't making a solid conclusion but it's just me not wanting to give a definitive thing which thinking about it is fairy scummy. I think ill go to bed. also explain this -_- and no one but breshke, guys Have you read hapas message about kp? My understanding is they could have literally stored their kp forever then just killed like 3 or 4 people in ome night.
lol yes i'm aware
i just find it immensely interesting that you can say i'm all but confirmed by damdred flipping doctor...then say that it will be 5 player lylo as if there is no question whatsoever, because in order for it to be 5-player lylo we'd have to mislynch today and scum would have to save their kp and not shoot tonight...which is already a big assumption...but add on to that the assumption that we're still missing kp from night 1?
which assumes that damdred was not successful in getting a save either night
that's a heck of a lot of assumptions rolled into a definitive statement, and you're not the type
like obviously if damdred didn't save me night 1 i'm not confirmed at all xP in fact i'm not confirmed anyway. my being saved by damdred is just one possible explanation for missing kp. clearly you're aware of that when you said it was 5 player lylo
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lol ><
good
you were making me nervous xP it's even better that no one had to ping you to do it ^^
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lol nvm my math was wrong :/ i suck as a human being lol
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xP
except that meta-related questions about activity and ability to post would reveal that i just came out of a scum newbie game with a 21/22-pg filter (before post-game posts), which was yes obviously the largest filter in the game...and we've played another 48-72 hours in this one
it is 100% a bad way to read me lol >< filter length/activity
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On May 01 2015 21:50 rsoultin wrote:
xP
except that meta-related questions about activity and ability to post would reveal that i just came out of a scum newbie game with a 21/22-pg filter (before post-game posts), which was yes obviously the largest filter in the game...and we've played another 48-72 hours more in this one
it is 100% a bad way to read me lol >< filter length/activity
^ is what that should read
basically, yamato, if that's your reason for townreading me and you plan on using it in the future as well you're gonna get rekt  you need better reasons than that to townread me
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i won't get to this before tomorrow :/ so yeah
i think we're probably no lynching again
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lol it's a joke, palmar
##unvote
in response to the joke he made about bresh lol ^^
##vote Yamato77
this isn't a joke, and we only have 72 hours so the hosts are already forcing us to lynch today
time to talk
artie, don't care if you were waiting on yamato...let's talk ^^ we have to settle the lynch and i'm not policy voting anyone today because that's stupid ^^
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On May 02 2015 22:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
We can talk. I'm pretty sure it's either Yamato or Breshke though and with two lynches I'm good.
I think you're town because your reads have been pretty fluid overall, though you've been pretty stern on Trfel being town and Breshke being scum I feel I understood why you thought that, and you changed your reads a lot on me/wave plus seem willing to listen and push along the game.
I think Trfel is town because he ended up being the one to truly push Wave, there's a ton of doubt in him, I don't think scum Trfel would try the Yamato shenanigans when it seems unlikely that Yamato would actually get lynched over Wave, and his read on me at the start of D3 though frustrating felt extremely familiar.
I think Palmar is probably town not because he'd been going on Wave all the time (though it does help) but rather the response he's given both the first time I pinged him out (continuing on his path and not doing things for easy towncred) and his frustration earlier today where he was being a dick to people. I don't think Palmar would be that much of a dick unless he was extremely frustrated.
I think Breshke can be scum because he hasn't really done much, he seems lax on actually doing work to get to a conclusion, he hasn't had many original thoughts and doesn't really seem to be thinking about the game critically.
I think Yamato can be scum because he's being extraordinarily lazy and he hasn't had many insights into the game that one would expect from Town Yamato. His read evaluation on me earlier on was the best thing he's delivered, but his reasoning on townreading you was lazy and I also feel like he was just looking for excuses to scumread Palmar earlier.
I expect lynching both Breshke and Yamato will win the game.
lol either you're in my head or i've been thought-dumping so much in the thread it's just plain obvious what and why my reads are the way they are xP
okay, so what changed your mind on bresh? just his read on you? you've been pretty adamant he's town most of the game...
i've actually got it narrowed to you three, and the one whose filter i most need to read is yours...the reasons for breshke and yamato being scum are pretty obvious (imo) while with you it's more paranoia; i like how you've been part of the game for the most part and seem to be putting the analysis in when it counts. i'm just aware that this could theoretically be a survival tactic (i'm not convinced that you choose to lynch wave over yamato if you're scum, though...getting another mislynch doesn't seem like so big a feat that you'd need to go for the cred there unless wave just doesn't want to play anymore and asks to be lynched/bussed lol ><)
truffle is in the middle of moving :/ i still wish he were more active cause him going silent makes me doubt myself lol >< but not enough to lynch him today i'm pretty sure, since it's really just the inactivity making me twitch and nothing else
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yamato may well be scum here; it's just...eh...i feel like his play is more likely to come from a lazy town yamato than breshke's is to come from an off-game town breshke, if that makes any sense? i know i've been tunneling like mad on him -_-
but just this cycle, for instance? he starts off giving big reads, doesn't complete it. okay. same as yamato. but the notable difference is breshke has been back in the thread lol >< defending himself without following through on his reads. the sense of urgency for me simply isn't there. where is his attempt to actually solve this game? and it's the same problem i've been having with him since he started out day 2 just talking about why there was no nk
he came to no conclusions from it and while yamato was his only scumread the effort to find that second scum, to find where his reads must be wrong, was not apparent in the thread. that he's someone usually making astute observations as town on a regular basis makes that more damning
i'd definitely prefer a breshke lynch over a yamato lynch, and i'd like palmar to give me a reason not to lynch him that isn't a day 1 toneread
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lol >< it's usually a bad sign when i'm leading a thread
okay well i'm gonna be filter diving when i get time later this afternoon
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then you should be voting breshke, art
i'll put pressure on yama but we have to lynch today
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eh i'm trying to write a 20-page research paper so i can graduate this may and finalize things like finances/housing for the next year right now so it would be immensely helpful if literally anyone but me actually put some work into this lynch today, please and thank you ^^
yes this is partly addressed to you, palmar, and definitely addressed to anyone potentially up for lynch who is town ><
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On April 28 2015 09:03 Hapahauli wrote:
I have subjectively determined that little progress is being made in this game. I'll be imposing a 3-cycle cap to this day. You have 72 hours to lynch, or the day will end in a no-lynch.
oh...lol for some reason i thought this was for the entire game :/ okay well that's fine then
still this thread is too dead -_- and this paper is more important than this game so someone else step up for once -_-
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meh i'm kinda inclined to agree with palmar cause:
1. i could be wrong anyway
2. if i'm right maybe you guys will finally look at breshke and stop being bad -_-
plus i'm probably going to be working on this still tomorrow and lol >< i don't have the time or the energy to argue with y'all so we'll probably end up lynching yamato anyway
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