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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 17 2015 18:27 GMT
#17
/in
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 02:00 GMT
#102
Anybody wants to request a tone read from me? Ill give a more educated response than last game.
Actually I am going to sleep, its 4 am.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 02:21 GMT
#107
Well im not tonereading that one. TL;DR
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 11:47 GMT
#166
On April 19 2015 11:49 Trfel wrote:
Hm, this game feels slow already. I thought my post would get things started, but I guess that wasn't good enough.

I find Bourneq to be the most suspicious so far.
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On April 19 2015 11:00 Bourneq wrote:
Anybody wants to request a tone read from me? Ill give a more educated response than last game.
Actually I am going to sleep, its 4 am.
Bourneq asks if anyone wants to ask him for a tone read, because this is something that people asked him to do last game. And he knows that it's a townie thing to do. However, the interesting thing is that he asks if people want him to tone read someone or something. He doesn't seem inclined to do it himself. This suggests that he is more interested in appeasing others and not getting lynched than actually finding scum.

Furthermore, he says that he will sleep instead of scumhunting. But why would he leave the first sentence in if he is going to sleep after all? He left it in to gain town credit for being open to doing something towny (making a read).
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On April 19 2015 11:21 Bourneq wrote:
Well im not tonereading that one. TL;DR
Then, someone in his previous game made a post. And Bourneq acknowledges it and says that he wasn't going to read it. Why does Bourneq feel a need to acknowledge my post? He already said that he's tired and he will be going to bed. His post doesn't help town in any way, but it makes him seem more involved in the game (which is false, since he didn't bother to toneread anyone at all).

I'll be heading out again for a while. Any thoughts?

I was laughing really bad reading this.
I was making a joke in both thoose comments. First joke because of last game when we lost because I did not know what a tone read was. Secondly I updated the page as I was brushing my teeth and see a post as long as my arm. I acctually read the thing and felt like it had been written up the day before so it looks just as scummy as it looks townie to me. Anyway I was just about to go to sleep so I just said TL;DR as a joke and headed for bed.

On a completely different note, I am excited too see what dwarf will bring to the table this game. So far I could get behind lynching all the americans but I dont know if that is a valid strategy since they dont necessarily have to be scum to be americans.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 11:48 GMT
#167
By the way, good morning guys and girls!
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 11:55 GMT
#168
Is anybody here? Especially Bill Murray, plotspot and cakepie since I dont think you've said anything so far?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 13:01 GMT
#170
Awesome good morning to you!
I agree with your reads so far my only addition I guess would be Bill Murray, plotspot and cakepies inactivity.
I like trfel so far since the last person who ended up scumreading me this early on for my very first posts ended up being town.
And you seem just as town as anybody else to me so far. I see you have plenty of mafia experiance on TL so I was wondering what you think about Scott's pressure vote on dwarf since he also has plenty of experiance? This happened to dwarf last game too and he ended up being mislynched from not making a very good defence for himself. So is not pressure voting noobies often counter productive?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 15:55 GMT
#199
On April 20 2015 00:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
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On April 19 2015 15:57 scott31337 wrote:
On April 19 2015 15:50 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I mean YUROP TOO STRONG TO DIE

Do you have any reads?

No, I don't have any reads yet.

I like the honesty. I was the same last game as vt. But I understand trfels point about how everybody knows D1 reads are very subject to change anyway. I would really like to see you say your thoughts on people so far dwarf.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 16:22 GMT
#208
I am not scum, give me your reasoning Bill, I'd love to vote trfel. He is trying a bit too hard.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 19:06 GMT
#219
Because this is a different trfel than from the last game I just came from where he was town.
And making a huge post like that and trying hard to look like town seems forced and not genuine, like it comes from a scum perspective. It could be motivated from both alignments as I've stated before but I am getting a scummy vibe.

Obi why do you not think this will be a high postcount game?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 21:52 GMT
#267
I would geniunly like to hear the benfits of mass claiming D1. Thinking about it, I dont understand how it would help us? Scum would know who to kill and could super easily counterclaim so that town looses any potential benefits. Bill is not a newbie so I must be missing something right? Seems like a stupid thing to ask for even if he is scum.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 19 2015 22:10 GMT
#275
On April 20 2015 06:48 Trfel wrote:
For anyone who doesn't know Bill Murray, he's quite famous.

This is a must read.

That was an excelent read. Can't belive im playing mafia with such a legend.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 10:47 GMT
#338
In regards to Trfel
It's also strange how he suddenly jumped on me when he said that he liked me for scumreading him. It feels that Bourneq is trying to set himself up to vote for me, but then Bill Murray suggests mass claiming, and this starts to draw attention. Bourneq never mentions me again. This progression seems extremely suspicious to me.

Besides this, Bourneq hasn't done very much. He's sheeped the thread sentiment several times (agreeing entirely with LightningStrike's list post, but mentioning the three inactive players, note that he didn't mention inactive players last game as town), and a weak read on LightningStrike ("[LightningStrike seems] just as town as anybody else to me so far"). I could definitely lynch Bourneq.

I have done nothing to set up a vote on you. I did not even concider it so I really don't know where this is coming from. I would guess its from this
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On April 20 2015 01:22 Bourneq wrote:
I am not scum, give me your reasoning Bill, I'd love to vote trfel. He is trying a bit too hard.

Yet I just said that to get Bill to talk since he would not do that with you. I thought you brought up some good points and did not want Bill to get away with not answering them. And he had stated he would not talk to YOU about it. I had not even concidered voting trfel but I wanted to get a conversation with Bill going.


On a different note I am not sure about the Bill lynch yet, it kind of feels like the plotspot lynch last game where he was saying some super scummy things yet flipped town. But if I had to vote right now I would vote Bill, I really hope this thread picks up however so that we can make a more educated lynch.

Speaking of plotspot he is still a no-show which makes me sad. He is likely to draw a plynch or 2.

Currently Obi is on my radar.
On April 20 2015 07:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On April 20 2015 07:02 Onegu wrote:
On April 20 2015 06:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 20 2015 06:47 Onegu wrote:
Obi have you played with BM before?


Yes.



Then thoughts on him this game?


He exists.

This post above is worse than my answer last game when asked to give a tone read. And that says something. Especially since obi is not a newbie and I am. He seems awfully set on plynching D1 aswell which I dont like. All this said I still would not scumlist him.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 10:59 GMT
#339
Little side note to my last post. Just because I did not want to vote trfel does not mean I've towned him yet.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 12:35 GMT
#340
Hello am I alone in this dark world?

Scott since you unvoted TBD do you mind sharing who you would wrather vote as of now?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 19:21 GMT
#452
Wow trfels reads are so terrible I want to lynch him. But at least he is posting.

##Vote Trfel

Just casting my vote real quick I will be back in a few hours.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 20:17 GMT
#475
Omg I missvoted, I just realised lmao. That was suppost to be cakepie.

##Unvote

##Vote cakepie
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 23:34 GMT
#516
lmao, going to get lynched for typing the wrong name? Fair. I was in a rush, was talking about trfel but was saying I am not voting him because he is active. Then I was going to write cakepie but I was in a rush and trfel was on my mind so somehow my brain typed that. Then an hour or two later I was talking about mafia with a mate and it dawned on me, wait.. Did I really write cakepie?? No I had not. Anyway seems im dead in a bit but just thought you should know this before I flip town. Gl townies.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 23:41 GMT
#519
Wow this post cracked me up.
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 21 2015 06:53 cakepie wrote:
What is this?
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On April 21 2015 05:17 Bourneq wrote:
Omg I missvoted, I just realised lmao. That was suppost to be cakepie.


One does not simply "misvote" as town, I figure almost everyone would at least glance to check.
Nonono, this scumbag messed up his marching orders, then left to do other things. Imagine the shouting in their QT!

I think with the mixed student format rather than pure newb game, and coaching, we have a scum team that tries to coordinate. They start by casting light suspicions around, and picking out potentially easy targets (often inactives), without committing. There's a couple of players who did that early on, if you've been inspecting filters you'll see that Bourneq was one of those that fit the criteria. Sometimes, these light-suspicion-lists will include a scumbuddy, just for the sake of mixing it up, or potential bus later on.

As the day develops, scumteam tries to diversify and pick out other targets, try to get a sense of the thread sentiment re: what kind of wagon they can get rolling. They'll make it a point to be on different targets rather than mass wagoning early. They're also hesitant to turn the ignition and add critical mass to a wagon too early, but want to avoid being too late for fear of suspicion of wagoning/sheeping. They generally don't do as well at justifying their reads and votes.

And I conjecture that this is where Bourneq scumbungled. His opinion shift re:Trfel is because he was assigned to "work" on a town leader threat. He didn't justify that terribly well. At the same time, scum is pondering when it is safe to start wagoning onto me. At this juncture, with conflicting priorities on the mind, and needing to be off somewhere but compelled to do something before leaving, he made a mistake. As already pointed out, he actually mentioned Trfel, and not me, while voting Trfel.

##Vote: Bourneq

##FoS: Scott333 for being the other player fitting the scum behavior pattern and that super OMGUS.

I usually prefer to do voting pattern and behavioral analysis later in the game when there is more to work with, but with the low activity and the need for me to contribute I figure let's give it a shot here.

-----

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On April 21 2015 06:21 LightningStrike wrote:
He only had 3 games under his belt and he was only town in those games.


<3 someone bothered to check!

Also, I still haven't rolled scum yet!


And stop reading way too much into my post timings, I assure you it's not helpful.



Hilarious, remember that one when I flip.
I kind of want to make a case for cakepie now that im back, but with only an hour left and with nobody that seems to be around, whats the point?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 20 2015 23:44 GMT
#520
oh BM and damdred is here. Yes it is going to be one hell of a way to go. Like seriously why would I make a case for NOT lynching trfel, then vote him in the same post? Some super mafia conspiracy or a simple tired and stressed bourneq thinking about trfel and making a misstake? Which one is more likely hmmmm.
The only reason I am dying today is because we have failed in getting and real information out there. I dont feel strongly about my cakevote neither so really what the fuck is this game? I made way more of an effort than a lot of people here and yet I am getting misslynched for a typo. Cheers trfel.
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