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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 20:44 GMT
#381
wave case basically boils down to:

hf is scum based on afking before I even really was able to be called an afker and then evolved into me not doing anything again and saying that I do when i'm town and somehow he ignores whatever people say about me never doing that as either alignment and STILLLLL scum reads me + VA afking is also easy

shallow scum reads based on nothing and when told wrong still pushes shallow scum reads, also his gb post was SUPER DUPER WTF SCUMMY "oh look something I can talk about" level scummy, ls guilty of it but wave should know way better than that like wtf even sl cleared it up for ls
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 20:46 GMT
#382
was also scum reading artanis based on what palmar was saying but the koshi point he brought up kinda makes me a bit hesitant after all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 20:58 GMT
#384
GlowingBear: Had decent content since he got sober but still the qt stuff is bugging me


Who can honestly have this guy in a TOWN list but still write that provision in there. If it's bugging him to this extent which is ridiculous because why would it ever bug anyone after it's been told to him that it was a joke then why wouldn't he be null/scummy. You either get over it and town read him based on the first part and that provision never exists or scum read him flat out based on the second part.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 21:07 GMT
#387
On April 18 2015 06:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope.
Dude's town.
You can lynch me instead.


I'm glad you have absolutely no basis to make that read at all. Would love for you to actually develop a read on someone that's not afking though because that would actually make you put in some effort that isn't wanting to lynch me or VA. Or you know, tell me why that stuff on LS is wrong and he is town after all. I'd wager that you can't without showing you have TMI or something.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 21:15 GMT
#389
I don't really understand what you're doing at all but it has nothing to do with LS' or your alignment whatsoever. Your defense is baseless and unless you can prove why it's wrong I'm going to continue pushing him. Just because you say he's town doesn't make him any alignment whatsoever.

The "lynch him or lynch me" mentality is stupid seeing as I just posted a case on why I want to vote him so I'm just going to continue doing that.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 21:19 GMT
#391
On April 17 2015 10:51 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2015 10:39 sicklucker wrote:
ls has not tried to read me for like 9 games now. whatever hes pretty scummy

I do it just much later in the game and we were scum together in Guardians you know I hate playing scum and very happy I rolled town for the first time since XXX.....................................................


Are you implying he's happy from this post? The amount of full stops seems to counteract what he is saying in his post completely. He also ignored the one post in the game that I made to him which I think is extremely uncharacteristic.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 21:45 GMT
#405
On April 18 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I liked HF case and I want to try a method to evaluate his gameplay + I said I would sheep him

I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery


What is this trash? You are trying a new method to read me and you 10/10 the case but are begging for any excuse to NOT be on the case you 10/10 and want to move onto deep soul the modkill guy or loafery the just new guy who I bet you haven't even looked into in his previous games. I'll tell you right now that I have and this is far more of a coin flip than anything else you've said.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 21:56 GMT
#410
On April 18 2015 06:46 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah except koshi being dumb usually means he's town. This case could be an exception, but I have no desire to oblige his request.

As for VA, everyone calls for vigs in him every game and nobody ever does. Aperture 4 is a good example. At the very least koshi might play, VA will not at all. Would still rather lynch HF over him though because I'm almost certain he's scum at this point with his push on LS and the weak almost push on me.



On April 18 2015 06:15 Holyflare wrote:
I don't really understand what you're doing at all but it has nothing to do with LS' or your alignment whatsoever. Your defense is baseless and unless you can prove why it's wrong I'm going to continue pushing him. Just because you say he's town doesn't make him any alignment whatsoever.

The "lynch him or lynch me" mentality is stupid seeing as I just posted a case on why I want to vote him so I'm just going to continue doing that.



I really just don't understand why you can't say simple sentences on why LS is town to you that don't include "because he's happy to roll town" when he's posted the exact same tripe in all his games when he's been mafia:

On March 19 2015 05:08 LightningStrike wrote:
I aint Mafia just your average Vanilla Town


^ mafia game


and then continue scum reading me for no reason whatsoever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 21:58 GMT
#413
guaewgwehugewhgujwehew LS IS DEFENDING ANOTHER PERSON GUYS
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:00 GMT
#415
On April 18 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I liked HF case and I want to try a method to evaluate his gameplay + I said I would sheep him

I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery


What is this trash? You are trying a new method to read me and you 10/10 the case but are begging for any excuse to NOT be on the case you 10/10 and want to move onto deep soul the modkill guy or loafery the just new guy who I bet you haven't even looked into in his previous games. I'll tell you right now that I have and this is far more of a coin flip than anything else you've said.


Answer this right now please.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:05 GMT
#420
On April 18 2015 07:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
guaewgwehugewhgujwehew LS IS DEFENDING ANOTHER PERSON GUYS

You know I defend people regardless of my alignment had you forgotten how I play as Town?


You say you're only going to use meta when it's 100% right yet you defend all of these afk people using meta when you have no idea whether it's true or not. Palmar fake claiming a role (he's 100% done this as mafia before, heavyweight championship (2 or 3?) being one of them, although at a different time and circumstance completely but regardless your meta read on him is incomplete and it's scummy that you just flat out use it to defend him when he hasn't really done much at all. Saying he's an "uncc'd blue" is silly since you've seen a plethora of people claim roles d1 as mafia. GB literally just did it last game (ongoing so w/e).

It just looks like you have far too much information to defend all of these people. It looks like you're trying to be "TOO right" with it to the extent where you just only believe what you write and nothing to the contrary because you know their alignments. You do a lot of ONLY defending and not much pushing people who are scum. You use all of these metas to defend and none of the meta to attack. This can be seen when you show your list with like 6 null people on it and your 1 scum read is VA who has the exact same reason to be scum as all your people on your null list but is in fact in your scum list. It can also be seen with your GB read where you town read him but post hesitance in that read at the same time.

You don't use meta to pick out these scum reads and null reads and say he does this as town or mafia or whatever. Only defending.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:10 GMT
#426
On April 18 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
On April 18 2015 07:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 18 2015 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
guaewgwehugewhgujwehew LS IS DEFENDING ANOTHER PERSON GUYS

You know I defend people regardless of my alignment had you forgotten how I play as Town?


You say you're only going to use meta when it's 100% right yet you defend all of these afk people using meta when you have no idea whether it's true or not. Palmar fake claiming a role (he's 100% done this as mafia before, heavyweight championship (2 or 3?) being one of them, although at a different time and circumstance completely but regardless your meta read on him is incomplete and it's scummy that you just flat out use it to defend him when he hasn't really done much at all. Saying he's an "uncc'd blue" is silly since you've seen a plethora of people claim roles d1 as mafia. GB literally just did it last game (ongoing so w/e).

It just looks like you have far too much information to defend all of these people. It looks like you're trying to be "TOO right" with it to the extent where you just only believe what you write and nothing to the contrary because you know their alignments. You do a lot of ONLY defending and not much pushing people who are scum. You use all of these metas to defend and none of the meta to attack. This can be seen when you show your list with like 6 null people on it and your 1 scum read is VA who has the exact same reason to be scum as all your people on your null list but is in fact in your scum list. It can also be seen with your GB read where you town read him but post hesitance in that read at the same time.

You don't use meta to pick out these scum reads and null reads and say he does this as town or mafia or whatever. Only defending.

If I get lynched you better flip Scum because your push on me reminding me of your push on 27ninjabunnies in Carol............................................


On March 20 2015 01:06 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 01:00 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 00:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also rsoultin!
+ Show Spoiler +
I added you on LoL on my Level 6 smurf on NA fyi


+ Show Spoiler +
what was the name? me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^


nvm found it ^^

hey, LS, i think this time you should sheep me, boyo

also, totes not important but since you asked, eden, yes we've discussed my age before xP 26

+ Show Spoiler +
It was Bladezzz4
I willing to sheep HF but if Rayn flips town it might go full Carol O_o


On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch.


On March 21 2015 22:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch.


if you thought this then why on earth did you ask me a question about why i wanted to lynch bm!?!?!?!? you should KNOW why i wanted to lynch bm if you think it looked like carol????????????????

I mean the way the lynch looked like the way 27Ninajabunnies lynch in Carol. Also you brought up that he was likely lurky Mafia and sometimes people just have a bad game and BM had a game here regardless of their pregame stuff.


Please don't make it too easy. This is your filter in guardians when you were mafia and said the exact same stuff.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:11 GMT
#428
On April 18 2015 07:06 Vivax wrote:
I feel better about a Koshi lynch.

GB why don't you vote Koshi with me and Artanis?

I got reservations about HF as he seems to have engaged his tryhard mode again just at EoD.


When was the last time that happened Vivax? Oh right last game where I was town. How about actually acknowledging what i'm saying.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:11 GMT
#430
On April 18 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 06:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I liked HF case and I want to try a method to evaluate his gameplay + I said I would sheep him

I'm voting LS until someone else agrees to vote deep soul or loafery


What is this trash? You are trying a new method to read me and you 10/10 the case but are begging for any excuse to NOT be on the case you 10/10 and want to move onto deep soul the modkill guy or loafery the just new guy who I bet you haven't even looked into in his previous games. I'll tell you right now that I have and this is far more of a coin flip than anything else you've said.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:12 GMT
#432
On April 18 2015 07:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 07:10 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm back

I had a haircut appointment


Yeah read on Koshi and decision please, we don't have much time, and Artanis is dying to 3 people who are afk.


No read the quotes that I just linked. LS has repeated everything he said as mafia word for word in guardians.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:12 GMT
#433
On April 18 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 07:08 Vivax wrote:
On April 18 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 18 2015 07:06 Vivax wrote:
I feel better about a Koshi lynch.

GB why don't you vote Koshi with me and Artanis?

I got reservations about HF as he seems to have engaged his tryhard mode again just at EoD.

HF tryhard as either alignment at EoD....................


The thing is that his change of style is gone just at the critical moment. So it leaves me wondering what the point of it was.

Because I a easy mislynch as Town so it would be a perfect opportunity for HF to gain town cred by pushing me. With that being said I voting to save myself.
##Unvote
##Vote: Holyflare



How on earth would I get town cred for pushing you if you are a mislynch?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:13 GMT
#436
On April 18 2015 07:10 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 18 2015 07:05 Holyflare wrote:
On April 18 2015 07:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 18 2015 06:58 Holyflare wrote:
guaewgwehugewhgujwehew LS IS DEFENDING ANOTHER PERSON GUYS

You know I defend people regardless of my alignment had you forgotten how I play as Town?


You say you're only going to use meta when it's 100% right yet you defend all of these afk people using meta when you have no idea whether it's true or not. Palmar fake claiming a role (he's 100% done this as mafia before, heavyweight championship (2 or 3?) being one of them, although at a different time and circumstance completely but regardless your meta read on him is incomplete and it's scummy that you just flat out use it to defend him when he hasn't really done much at all. Saying he's an "uncc'd blue" is silly since you've seen a plethora of people claim roles d1 as mafia. GB literally just did it last game (ongoing so w/e).

It just looks like you have far too much information to defend all of these people. It looks like you're trying to be "TOO right" with it to the extent where you just only believe what you write and nothing to the contrary because you know their alignments. You do a lot of ONLY defending and not much pushing people who are scum. You use all of these metas to defend and none of the meta to attack. This can be seen when you show your list with like 6 null people on it and your 1 scum read is VA who has the exact same reason to be scum as all your people on your null list but is in fact in your scum list. It can also be seen with your GB read where you town read him but post hesitance in that read at the same time.

You don't use meta to pick out these scum reads and null reads and say he does this as town or mafia or whatever. Only defending.

If I get lynched you better flip Scum because your push on me reminding me of your push on 27ninjabunnies in Carol............................................


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 01:06 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 20 2015 01:00 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 00:59 rsoultin wrote:
On March 19 2015 23:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Also rsoultin!
+ Show Spoiler +
I added you on LoL on my Level 6 smurf on NA fyi


+ Show Spoiler +
what was the name? me and my lazy week lol i'll prob be playing today ^^


nvm found it ^^

hey, LS, i think this time you should sheep me, boyo

also, totes not important but since you asked, eden, yes we've discussed my age before xP 26

+ Show Spoiler +
It was Bladezzz4
I willing to sheep HF but if Rayn flips town it might go full Carol O_o


Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch.


Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 22:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 21 2015 21:55 Holyflare wrote:
On March 21 2015 21:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I woke up. Holyflare it's because I was townreading Bill despite his short filter but I liked some of his stuff esp his questions towards Eden when he was here. The fact that you were so certain he was scum kinda reminds me of our time in Carol when you thought 27ninjabunnies was Mafia when she was a Miller that game and was lackluster after that lynch. Also when I said it had be 1 at least 1 of you 3 being Mafia you don't look as bad as Rayn and Palmar esp because of their switches to BM esp they weren't giving much reasons to switch.


if you thought this then why on earth did you ask me a question about why i wanted to lynch bm!?!?!?!? you should KNOW why i wanted to lynch bm if you think it looked like carol????????????????

I mean the way the lynch looked like the way 27Ninajabunnies lynch in Carol. Also you brought up that he was likely lurky Mafia and sometimes people just have a bad game and BM had a game here regardless of their pregame stuff.


Please don't make it too easy. This is your filter in guardians when you were mafia and said the exact same stuff.


I'm going to go absolutely bonkers if people don't acknowledge this post.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:14 GMT
#437
Where did wave go while defending LS for no reason?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:16 GMT
#441
......................................................................................................?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 17 2015 22:16 GMT
#442
isn't that on you for not bringing a case on scum too????????
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