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indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 10:02 GMT
#5981
Ok, fuck it. Yamato can die. I don't even care about his alignment.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 10:03 GMT
#5982
FF healed me for 4 btw.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 10:05 GMT
#5983
For the record: I don't think what damdred brought up is really damning for him. But I can't tolerate this play.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 10:36 GMT
#5984
I recall someone saying that we won't be getting The Shining's check but can't find that post. What was that about?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 10:45 GMT
#5985
On May 06 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 06 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote:
I just thought of something bah humbug i'm going to be upset with obi during night cycle I think


?


We won't be getting shinings check tonight because ehs on top of the player list when he died


Here it is... How come?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 10:48 GMT
#5986
On May 06 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:
N1: HF takes 6 damage (factional kp assumption)
FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin)
Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock)
Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg
Indignant is hit for 12 dmg
Marv is hit for 7 Dmg
Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block)

D2: Jat is healed by FF for an unspecified amount
FF is flipped
JAT takes 3 random dmg at eod

N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?)
Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing.
HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims)
JAT receives 6 Dmg
Breshke receives dmg
Shining receives 6 dmg
Marv receives 12 dmg (?)
(Marv Dies)

D3: Vivax is flipped roleblocker
Sepu faints mysteriously
Shining takes 3 dmg randomly eod

N3: HF disappears from game
Damdred takes 3 dmg
Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?)
Shining takes at least 3 dmg
Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg
Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg

Actually I take back what I said about stutters st this point I just got my spreadsheet and I think it partially clears him. I corrected it and put in the correct Marv dmg. I want to point something out though.

N1- 5 Mafia Faction don
N2- 4 Mafia Faction done
N3- 2 Mafia Faction accounted for

The pattern is off. We are either missing a mafia KP or we are missing a third party action.

We should lynch Yamato today


Hm so you assume that you roleblocked the factional KP that yamato was carrying... I guess it's plausible. This would mean that there's possibly still 3 scum left...? (3 scum KP overall)
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 10:57 GMT
#5987
On May 06 2015 19:48 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:
N1: HF takes 6 damage (factional kp assumption)
FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin)
Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock)
Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg
Indignant is hit for 12 dmg
Marv is hit for 7 Dmg
Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block)

D2: Jat is healed by FF for an unspecified amount
FF is flipped
JAT takes 3 random dmg at eod

N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?)
Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing.
HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims)
JAT receives 6 Dmg
Breshke receives dmg
Shining receives 6 dmg
Marv receives 12 dmg (?)
(Marv Dies)

D3: Vivax is flipped roleblocker
Sepu faints mysteriously
Shining takes 3 dmg randomly eod

N3: HF disappears from game
Damdred takes 3 dmg
Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?)
Shining takes at least 3 dmg
Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg
Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg

Actually I take back what I said about stutters st this point I just got my spreadsheet and I think it partially clears him. I corrected it and put in the correct Marv dmg. I want to point something out though.

N1- 5 Mafia Faction don
N2- 4 Mafia Faction done
N3- 2 Mafia Faction accounted for

The pattern is off. We are either missing a mafia KP or we are missing a third party action.

We should lynch Yamato today


Hm so you assume that you roleblocked the factional KP that yamato was carrying... I guess it's plausible. This would mean that there's possibly still 3 scum left...? (3 scum KP overall)

It is actually pure speculation. Mafia could have used KP on shining - we have no way to know.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 11:14 GMT
#5988
True
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 11:28 GMT
#5989
I guess it's a slight point against yamato though.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 06 2015 11:39 GMT
#5990
On May 06 2015 19:45 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 06 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote:
I just thought of something bah humbug i'm going to be upset with obi during night cycle I think


?


We won't be getting shinings check tonight because ehs on top of the player list when he died


Here it is... How come?


I could be wrong but i think the logic is that since actions happen from bottom of the list up that he mightve got roleblocked? That is the only thing I can think of.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
May 06 2015 11:43 GMT
#5991
On May 06 2015 20:39 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 19:45 Xatalos wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 06 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote:
I just thought of something bah humbug i'm going to be upset with obi during night cycle I think


?


We won't be getting shinings check tonight because ehs on top of the player list when he died


Here it is... How come?


I could be wrong but i think the logic is that since actions happen from bottom of the list up that he mightve got roleblocked? That is the only thing I can think of.


nevermind it makes no sense because he would still be roleblocked later anyway.

Didn't damdred retract that later anyway?
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 11:46 GMT
#5992
On May 06 2015 20:43 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 20:39 Breshke wrote:
On May 06 2015 19:45 Xatalos wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:23 Damdred wrote:
On May 06 2015 08:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 06 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote:
I just thought of something bah humbug i'm going to be upset with obi during night cycle I think


?


We won't be getting shinings check tonight because ehs on top of the player list when he died


Here it is... How come?


I could be wrong but i think the logic is that since actions happen from bottom of the list up that he mightve got roleblocked? That is the only thing I can think of.


nevermind it makes no sense because he would still be roleblocked later anyway.

Didn't damdred retract that later anyway?

I don't really see what this discussion is good for. We will either get information or we won't.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 06 2015 13:08 GMT
#5993
Day 4 Vote Count

yamato77 (7): Inspector Javert, Xatalos, Chezinu, LightningStrike, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Breshke, indignant
LightningStrike (1): Inspector Javert
Stutters695 (0): LightningStrike

Not voting (3): Stutters695, sicklucker, yamato77

Given the current vote count, yamato77 is most likely to be knocked out.
The voting thread is located here.
Countdown:

The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 06 2015 14:12 GMT
#5994
Actions resolve from bottom up if you are dead before your action hits I don't think it goes through.

it is speculation however shining made it known how much ho he had and that he was a girl all of the extra small dmg going out makes it seem like they could of just used the small dmg to take 3 hp off rather than wasteing 6 kp.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 06 2015 14:13 GMT
#5995
But it is speculation, some logical leaps
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 14:17 GMT
#5996
On May 06 2015 23:12 Damdred wrote:
Actions resolve from bottom up if you are dead before your action hits I don't think it goes through.

it is speculation however shining made it known how much ho he had and that he was a girl all of the extra small dmg going out makes it seem like they could of just used the small dmg to take 3 hp off rather than wasteing 6 kp.

I repeat - pure speculation. We don't know how many abilities mafia have that can do 3 dmg. We don't even know if KP really comes in bundles of 6. We can't speculate about that at all. There is 3p remember? There could be 3p dealing damage.
I think this is a really bad reason to suspect anyone.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 06 2015 14:17 GMT
#5997
As far as I am concerned we are lynching yamato on pure policy/lack of play and that's fine.
Inspector Javert
Profile Joined April 2015
314 Posts
May 06 2015 14:22 GMT
#5998
Yamato lynch is good. Everyone was saying earlier that his scum meta is promising activity and then not delivering and that seems to apply well enough here.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 14:22 GMT
#5999
Oh now I see the reasoning. Well, let's hope for the best anyway.

yamato tends to roll over and die more likely as scum from my experience so there's that too.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 06 2015 14:27 GMT
#6000
When I last played with town yamato he at least tried to do stuff when under pressure. As scum he rarely does much of anything IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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