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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 22:35 GMT
#5921
Mot of the game has been meh for the entire game.

And how is he a new player...
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 22:36 GMT
#5922
And honestly his read progression and vote on sandroba looks REALLY natural d1.

So gotta talk me through everything in depth
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 22:41 GMT
#5923
I just thought of something bah humbug i'm going to be upset with obi during night cycle I think
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 05 2015 22:41 GMT
#5924
On May 06 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
And honestly his read progression and vote on sandroba looks REALLY natural d1.

So gotta talk me through everything in depth

His read on me was Omgus while my read on him wasn't.
He was coached in Student VII which only people with 4 or less games played can get that why I consider him a new player.
His shooting thing on HF was a terrible idea since everyone including scum was townreading him and he was the leader I can see a rookie mafia make that mistake.
Lurked the last 144 hours and not interacting with others as much as town should.



May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 22:41 GMT
#5925
On May 06 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote:
1) I stil don't understand why mafia would do that and CLAIM doing that to HF.

2) People are wrong all the time.

3) Almost everyoens content is meh over the past 2 cycles though.

Gotta give me a bit more explanation

His content been meh the entire game, claimed to hit HF it looks so dumb to do as Mafia but he's a new player I would expect him to do it.

I'm 3-0 as scum.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 22:43 GMT
#5926
On May 06 2015 07:41 Damdred wrote:
I just thought of something bah humbug i'm going to be upset with obi during night cycle I think

Me too.
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
May 05 2015 22:44 GMT
#5927
On May 06 2015 07:41 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 07:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 06 2015 07:30 Damdred wrote:
1) I stil don't understand why mafia would do that and CLAIM doing that to HF.

2) People are wrong all the time.

3) Almost everyoens content is meh over the past 2 cycles though.

Gotta give me a bit more explanation

His content been meh the entire game, claimed to hit HF it looks so dumb to do as Mafia but he's a new player I would expect him to do it.

I'm 3-0 as scum.

You were scum in my very first game here. And what a shitty game it was for town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 22:45 GMT
#5928
On May 06 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
And honestly his read progression and vote on sandroba looks REALLY natural d1.

So gotta talk me through everything in depth

His read on me was Omgus while my read on him wasn't.
He was coached in Student VII which only people with 4 or less games played can get that why I consider him a new player.
His shooting thing on HF was a terrible idea since everyone including scum was townreading him and he was the leader I can see a rookie mafia make that mistake.
Lurked the last 144 hours and not interacting with others as much as town should.





He has 20 games it looks like to me so not really a newb.

It sorta makes sense, its horrible but I understand roughly

Lots of people did though...
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 05 2015 22:47 GMT
#5929
Correction I just look in the database and saw he like 20 games in there brb checking his scum meta and town meta.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Inspector Javert
Profile Joined April 2015
314 Posts
May 05 2015 22:47 GMT
#5930
LS if my vote is bothering you that much all you have to do is convince me yamato is the better lynch. It's hardly the monumental task you're making it out to be.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 05 2015 22:48 GMT
#5931
On May 06 2015 07:47 Inspector Javert wrote:
LS if my vote is bothering you that much all you have to do is convince me yamato is the better lynch. It's hardly the monumental task you're making it out to be.

I willing to policy Yamato because he haven't produced anything this Day Phase.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Inspector Javert
Profile Joined April 2015
314 Posts
May 05 2015 22:49 GMT
#5932
On May 06 2015 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 07:47 Inspector Javert wrote:
LS if my vote is bothering you that much all you have to do is convince me yamato is the better lynch. It's hardly the monumental task you're making it out to be.

I willing to policy Yamato because he haven't produced anything this Day Phase.


What do you think about the people who said d1 that yamato's scum meta is promising activity and then not delivering?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 05 2015 22:51 GMT
#5933
On May 06 2015 07:49 Inspector Javert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2015 07:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 06 2015 07:47 Inspector Javert wrote:
LS if my vote is bothering you that much all you have to do is convince me yamato is the better lynch. It's hardly the monumental task you're making it out to be.

I willing to policy Yamato because he haven't produced anything this Day Phase.


What do you think about the people who said d1 that yamato's scum meta is promising activity and then not delivering?

It might actually apply here. Anyways I still checking out Stutters meta and will report back as soon I 3 of his latest town games and all 3 of his games as scum.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 22:54 GMT
#5934
So.

To explain something I said earlier, I don't think balance wise it makes sense for a limited inventor scum SL to be able to give a healing herb to scum buddy FF.

Which is a bad assumption but it makes a bit of sense to me.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
May 05 2015 22:54 GMT
#5935
I would like to point out as well, LS's main contribution is tunneling me based on a misrepresentation of my play. Especially if he knew enough to know I played in 7, he should know better since I mentioned most of this stuff there.

I think I found the scum guys.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 23:01 GMT
#5936
....

So, Chez sent Breshke a troll item the day marv died the brown gloves? Breshke says received an item and chez said he sent one I believe, but he also claims to have visited marv the day he died I believe.

That's a bit off to me
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 05 2015 23:18 GMT
#5937
Okay guys I found something interesting about Stutters meta which he busses his teammates as Mafia in 3 of his games as scum and OMGUS scumread a person in 1 game and here the quote of his OMGUS read on Waveofshadow in Basterd Mini Mafia:
On July 03 2013 00:18 Stutters695 wrote:
Any red emphasis is mine

Well WoS's most recent post has me thinking he might be scum.

I'm literally WoS' only scum-read this game. He jumps on my wagon and sheeps Vivax and Rayn (with his only unique reasoning being that I didn't feel like translating his worthless posts in French because I was phone posting).

He twice emphasizes his doubt of my wagon by virtue of four people already being on it.

BUT WAIT
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
lol speaking of Rayn grasping at straws, (somebody mentioned that earlier..?) I certainly love his case on me.
For a guy who talks a lot about towny perspectives, he doesn't even remotely consider the fact that me saying I have nothing to say can be from a towny perspective at all, cause, you know, I had nothing to say at the time. The contradiction he comes up with is not a contradiction at all in my eyes, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, right?

I also especially love how hard he pushes me as his main scumread.
I'm still not convinced that he is scum though and I want to look closer when I get the chance at his very recent scumgame as compared to something like CC.

Stutters I was thinking of unvoting you but your recent post gives me pause. You just look so afraid to take a stance on anything. C'est scummy.

Ladies and gents I'm out until later tonight; kid is at the grandparents for the night and you can sure as hell bet I'm not spending free time with the wife at the computer.

He literally hasn't taken a stance on anything to this point and waffled on me because the wagon was too easy when thats literally the exact same thing he said my most recent post was scummy for.

After that he does his summary thing which shows no real analysis just worthless summaries of what we already know.

Show nested quote +
Wat is this waffly shit? So no read on me, he thinks Vivax looks bad but ACTUALLY I don't want to kill him, and the tone of that last sentence makes me laugh. 'Guys we should probably kill JarJar, if that's ok with you........' Maybe that's me reading into it a bit too much but there's a difference between 'We need to kill JJD right now.' and 'We really should kill JarJar......' Its those damn ellipses or something.
Yeah I'd defs lynch Lazer atm.

Worth noting though is he attacks Lazer for saying Vivax is scummy but he still wanted to lynch JJD because Vivax is active and although his tunneling felt scummy it isn't a scumtell of itself. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him, but half his points against Lazer are for using ellipses? Seriously. Also note despite saying he'd lynch him at this point, he doesn't mention Lazer again in his filter.

He follows that up with indecisive posts on Vivax and Rayn.

Finally his players he wants to look into post:

Show nested quote +
On July 02 2013 11:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Players I want to look into/talk to when I get the chance:
Marv - I find personal interaction with him to be the best way I get a read of him; I don't know what his scum game looks like so I'm still kind of wary about him.
Fuba - His townplay was really strong in Roulette and I see bits and pieces of it here but his lack of activity muddled it up somewhat, and it's different than the lack of activity he exhibited in Roulette. In that game he came in strong and performed strong analysis when necessary....here there was much more fluff to his posting that rubs me the wrong way amidst the good posts.
Stutters - Still think he's scum. His performance is a lot better than the half of the game I was there for but there's still stuff like this:
On July 02 2013 03:31 Stutters695 wrote:
I explained why I disagreed with your case. Truth be told I haven't scrutinized his play too much since then but I don't think his "slip" if you want to call it that is indicative of anything, at least not on its own.

I'll read up on WoS/Lazer but is there a particular thing you don't like about my Fuba case?

Never gives the aforementioned reads and his 'case' on Fuba is incredibly weak and only points out the glaringly obvious that many had pointed out earlier. The conclusion makes sense somewhat as I agree that Fuba's regular analysis was lacking here and all the conclusions he reaches amount to 'I'm not sure',' but it's not much of a case and I could see it as a bus.
Then Vivax comes in and critiques the case a little and what happens?
On July 02 2013 03:45 Stutters695 wrote:
I can understand that. Probably a little bias on my part but it just seems so scummy to me. I'll see how he responds and what he comes back with but he's definitely on my short list for d2.

Immediately ready to drop it and push it to the backburner instead of coming back and trying to push it more strongly. This is not a towny who has a strong scumread, this is scum who was hoping he could do some weak analysis and then jump on sheep someone else.



Marv - "I dont know so I'm going to look at him" very helpful
Fuba - Says the same thing I and multiple others have said. Notice that, once again, there is no conclusion only observations.
Me- Hey a definitive stance! On me again .

Here's why I think this is scummy.

First, obviously how non-committal he is while also using that as his sole point against me.
Second: Blatant misrepresentation.

I still maintain my case on Fuba is pretty damn strong, he still is doing exactly what I laid out. That one is subjective though, whatever. "Never gives the aforementioned reads": This one bugs me. He completely ignores that I agreed with Vivax's case AND provided additional information that helped to secure his lynch pre-claim. Obviously it was wrong and forced a claim which sucks, but that is taking a stance.

Notice how he also tries to pin promised reads on me when I said "I will read up on them later." Blatant misrepresentation to strengthen his case.

The last part of his post is taken completely out of the context of the thread to make me look worse. I was on the chopping block at that point and would have been mislynched through towns passivity. Vivax had been expressing his disagreement with my Fuba case for hours and we had town reads on each other. I needed to work with someone to find a good lynch to both stop my mislynch and maximize the odds of hitting scum.

but on the other hand after looking through his town games he post less as town than scum and had similar process in his reads to this game too esp his latest game when he tunneled someone so in conclusion: He TOTES TOWN Yamato on the other hand needs to step up and so far failed to deliver his promise.
##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato77
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 23:19 GMT
#5938
JAT are you here/
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 05 2015 23:19 GMT
#5939
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 05 2015 23:21 GMT
#5940
On May 06 2015 08:19 Damdred wrote:
Actually I think we have to lynch Yamato and stutters

No we don't lynch Stutters we lynch Yamato. Stutters has been known as a infrequent poster regardless of his alignment from my research into his meta.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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