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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 21:43 GMT
#1619
On April 28 2015 06:40 LightningStrike wrote:
You know Breshke throwing away his vote is pretty bad.


did you not jsut see me say i was going to change it?

Why arn't we lynching this guy people are trying to work out what wagon to push and he is worried about a single vote on him
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 21:48 GMT
#1656
On April 28 2015 06:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
no no no breshke is probably not mafia here ><

Bshke been meh this entire game and he's throwing away his vote for a reason that is crap and he done as Mafia before (NYE Party he went onto me just because Bats on me)


why do you jsut ignore me LS YOU THINKK IM SCUM INTERACT WITH ME

I was asleep up until now i come back who fuckin knows whats going on so i sheep the person ive been readng msot town which is xatat. How am iw asting my vote??? See you sauid this and i can understand that you didnt see i changed my vote but you should of by now yet you keep saying the same thing.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 22:25 GMT
#1764
Ill be around later to adress that wagon on me.

I think ls reaction to the lynch seems fake. Also damdred the point how he is a meta machine is partly why I am scumreading him, The first thing which he had a problem with me about the TMI thing he did not reference at all yet mentioned it more than once.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 22:28 GMT
#1780
On April 28 2015 07:27 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote:
Ill be around later to adress that wagon on me.

I think ls reaction to the lynch seems fake. Also damdred the point how he is a meta machine is partly why I am scumreading him, The first thing which he had a problem with me about the TMI thing he did not reference at all yet mentioned it more than once.


So your scum reading him for being in his town meta basically?


No im saying he didnt meta reference the TMI thing at all and didnt address it again when someone disagreed with him to show him where he was wrong. I think as scum he is much much more likely to just say something or vote for someone and not try and defend that position at all.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 23:49 GMT
#1908
On April 28 2015 08:48 sicklucker wrote:
Guys are we really just gonna nominate hf so they can kill are best town and are fight promoter in one go? Theres no way one of are better towns should be the fight promoter.

I nominate yamato. Hes a sensible person who will listen to Hfs orders and if he does not we simply kill him.

Mafia can not kill him without revealing vote info and if he is mafia who cares if he does not make the fight who we want we hang him to a tree


This is surprisingly a really really good idea.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 23:54 GMT
#1920
On April 28 2015 08:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 08:49 sicklucker wrote:
GUYS IF MAFIA NIGHTKILLS HF WE GET NO FIGHT. THIS IS A THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU NOMINATE HF.

surely you guys can see the logic in this... Randomly voting a top town is not the most +ev play here..


If mafia target me they die??? You'd rather just let 2 randoms fight?


Is your ability like un roleblockable or something. Someone has already flipped with a role block ability could mafia not also have a roleblocker.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 27 2015 23:54 GMT
#1922
On April 28 2015 08:54 batsnacks wrote:
Why would HF lie about his role? Is this something he's done before or something? :^)


HAHA which smurf are you?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 00:00 GMT
#1933
Damdred why do you dislike me is it mostly because you disagree with my LS read?

Like i get you think that him following his own reads i townie but he didn't try to push it or ask anyone opinions on it at all really which is classic LS in my mind.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:07 GMT
#1966
SL i actually think you are town and ill probably stick to it this is new and weird for me
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:11 GMT
#1967
On April 28 2015 08:48 sicklucker wrote:
Guys are we really just gonna nominate hf so they can kill are best town and are fight promoter in one go? Theres no way one of are better towns should be the fight promoter.

I nominate yamato. Hes a sensible person who will listen to Hfs orders and if he does not we simply kill him.

Mafia can not kill him without revealing vote info and if he is mafia who cares if he does not make the fight who we want we hang him to a tree


Like I really don't ever see a scum Sl posting this when he seems to be worried about establishing his innocence which he has also done this game but this is a gem. This is really insightful especially if he actually didn't understand HF's role.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:22 GMT
#1971
better late than never
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:27 GMT
#1972
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:31 GMT
#1974
I think if you're town mafia are probably considering night killing you weather or not you are promoter. I'm fine with having you as promoter I just think we can get more out of it if you weren't
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:35 GMT
#1980
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:36 GMT
#1982
On April 28 2015 10:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
IDK maybe I'm not looking at this from all possible angles but isn't taking the chance on a pgo always a dumb idea? If mafia has ANY investigative roles wouldn't they just use it on HF instead?

I think that HF is actually the best bet for promoter regardless of the validity of his pgo claim. Any gamble/indecision scum has to go through is good. I guess they could also have some kind of RB as well....

Give me a second I need to work this out


I think if they use any action on HF and he is a PGO they would get shot so i think they put kp on him or they leave him alone entirely
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:38 GMT
#1984
On April 28 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:35 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong

Ohhh so it is a WIFOM bomb, we're just trying to have it explode in the direction of scum.


I get it doesn't really pay off unless they kill the person we have as fight promoter but even if they don't I assume we can still get the fight we want
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:41 GMT
#1987
This all being said scum might have no interest in killing the promoter anyway as they might want the fight to go ahead. Unlikely but yeah.

On April 28 2015 10:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:38 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:35 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong

Ohhh so it is a WIFOM bomb, we're just trying to have it explode in the direction of scum.


I get it doesn't really pay off unless they kill the person we have as fight promoter but even if they don't I assume we can still get the fight we want

Ok true. It gives town more control over NKs, sure, I can see that. I still think the optimal WIFOM play will be to leave the promoter untouched and try to paint them as scum for being alive.


I can see how they might try this but I doubt it would work especially since we have talked about it ahead of time.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:43 GMT
#1988
On April 28 2015 10:41 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any downside to me being promoter and mafia dying

I see many downsides to other plans


Ill stop pushing this and just default to you as im assuming I don't have all the information
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:53 GMT
#1990
LS who do you think should be put in the fight tomorrow?
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:00 GMT
#1992
On April 28 2015 10:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax for certain with the way Vivax tried to sway the wagon to Yamato like that after Sandroba flipping scum. The 2nd I will trust HF's judgement because apparently I terrible :O


Do you not think I am mafia anymore?
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