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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 28 2015 01:35 GMT
#1981
On April 28 2015 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
Ff if yamato flips we get a lot of info about the wagons, is the theory at least

oh I can see that but that kinda makes this whole situation a WIFOM bomb now.
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:36 GMT
#1982
On April 28 2015 10:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
IDK maybe I'm not looking at this from all possible angles but isn't taking the chance on a pgo always a dumb idea? If mafia has ANY investigative roles wouldn't they just use it on HF instead?

I think that HF is actually the best bet for promoter regardless of the validity of his pgo claim. Any gamble/indecision scum has to go through is good. I guess they could also have some kind of RB as well....

Give me a second I need to work this out


I think if they use any action on HF and he is a PGO they would get shot so i think they put kp on him or they leave him alone entirely
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 28 2015 01:36 GMT
#1983
On April 28 2015 10:35 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong

Ohhh so it is a WIFOM bomb, we're just trying to have it explode in the direction of scum.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:38 GMT
#1984
On April 28 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:35 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong

Ohhh so it is a WIFOM bomb, we're just trying to have it explode in the direction of scum.


I get it doesn't really pay off unless they kill the person we have as fight promoter but even if they don't I assume we can still get the fight we want
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 28 2015 01:39 GMT
#1985
On April 28 2015 10:38 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:35 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong

Ohhh so it is a WIFOM bomb, we're just trying to have it explode in the direction of scum.


I get it doesn't really pay off unless they kill the person we have as fight promoter but even if they don't I assume we can still get the fight we want

Ok true. It gives town more control over NKs, sure, I can see that. I still think the optimal WIFOM play will be to leave the promoter untouched and try to paint them as scum for being alive.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 28 2015 01:41 GMT
#1986
I don't see any downside to me being promoter and mafia dying

I see many downsides to other plans
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:41 GMT
#1987
This all being said scum might have no interest in killing the promoter anyway as they might want the fight to go ahead. Unlikely but yeah.

On April 28 2015 10:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:38 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:36 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:35 Breshke wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
On April 28 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote:
HF I still think it isn't the right idea to vote you for fight promoter.

For one scum might want to kill you anyway for how hard you campaigned for sandrobas lynch so giving them extra incentive even thought it results in one of their deaths seems wrong as they just get more benefit for actually putting kp on you.

Secondly if they weren't planning on killing you but you being the fight promoter would make them want to would it not then be better to give the fight promoter to someone like yamato or another townread maybe one you are less sure of as we can just get them to pick the fight you want and we don't give scum the extra incentive to kill you

Uh, how does losing yamato, who hasn't claimed to be a hazard for scum, benefit us? If they kill yamato as the fight promoter we still lose the fight don't we? I don't understand the idea here. If HF is lying scum still has to take the gamble and shoot...


Do we actually even know how the scum KP works?


Yamato was probably a bad example since he is msot likely town. I should have thought of someone before suggesting this but the diea was give it to one of the townier question marks and then if they are killed we still lose the fight but we remove a question mark. I see it as kind of directing scums night kills?

Also i kinnda assumed scum kp would just be outright not based on HP since lynches are outright kills. Could be wrong

Ohhh so it is a WIFOM bomb, we're just trying to have it explode in the direction of scum.


I get it doesn't really pay off unless they kill the person we have as fight promoter but even if they don't I assume we can still get the fight we want

Ok true. It gives town more control over NKs, sure, I can see that. I still think the optimal WIFOM play will be to leave the promoter untouched and try to paint them as scum for being alive.


I can see how they might try this but I doubt it would work especially since we have talked about it ahead of time.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:43 GMT
#1988
On April 28 2015 10:41 Holyflare wrote:
I don't see any downside to me being promoter and mafia dying

I see many downsides to other plans


Ill stop pushing this and just default to you as im assuming I don't have all the information
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 28 2015 01:51 GMT
#1989
With HF being the Paranoid Gun Owner we can just vote for him to be our Promoter.
##Vote: Holyflare
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 01:53 GMT
#1990
LS who do you think should be put in the fight tomorrow?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 28 2015 01:56 GMT
#1991
Vivax for certain with the way Vivax tried to sway the wagon to Yamato like that after Sandroba flipping scum. The 2nd I will trust HF's judgement because apparently I terrible :O
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:00 GMT
#1992
On April 28 2015 10:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax for certain with the way Vivax tried to sway the wagon to Yamato like that after Sandroba flipping scum. The 2nd I will trust HF's judgement because apparently I terrible :O


Do you not think I am mafia anymore?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 28 2015 02:06 GMT
#1993
On April 28 2015 11:00 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 10:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax for certain with the way Vivax tried to sway the wagon to Yamato like that after Sandroba flipping scum. The 2nd I will trust HF's judgement because apparently I terrible :O


Do you not think I am mafia anymore?

I still kinda do but I trust HF's judgement since he's a good player by reputation.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:12 GMT
#1994
Mmmk. I hope you realise that you were infact wrong about me TMI about sandrobas alignment because of that flip.

On April 28 2015 04:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Yamato didn't do jack shit at all I think he got a good shot at being Mafia. I switching to him now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato777


Was there any other reasons than this that you voted yamato over sandroba?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 28 2015 02:18 GMT
#1995
On April 28 2015 11:12 Breshke wrote:
Mmmk. I hope you realise that you were infact wrong about me TMI about sandrobas alignment because of that flip.

Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 04:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Honestly Yamato didn't do jack shit at all I think he got a good shot at being Mafia. I switching to him now.
##Unvote
##Vote: Yamato777


Was there any other reasons than this that you voted yamato over sandroba?

When I read Sandroba's filter I didn't see anything that stuck out that he was scum and I know I heavily bussed him JOAT but others also said Sandroba is just a bad player too so meh. I think that EoD votes confirms Yamato as town now.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
April 28 2015 02:23 GMT
#1996
I'm drunk, go bolts. @LS, can you explain how it confirms Yamato? I can see it either way, but I might have missed something.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
April 28 2015 02:28 GMT
#1997
On April 28 2015 11:23 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm drunk, go bolts. @LS, can you explain how it confirms Yamato? I can see it either way, but I might have missed something.

With the way the votes were going and seeing Sandroba flip scum and how Vivax tried to get people off of Sandroba to Yamato pretty much confirms Yamato as town at least in my mind I know it might be faulty logic but why would scum!Vivax move votes from scum!Sandroba to scum!Yamato in that situation?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 28 2015 02:31 GMT
#1998
On April 28 2015 11:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:23 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm drunk, go bolts. @LS, can you explain how it confirms Yamato? I can see it either way, but I might have missed something.

With the way the votes were going and seeing Sandroba flip scum and how Vivax tried to get people off of Sandroba to Yamato pretty much confirms Yamato as town at least in my mind I know it might be faulty logic but why would scum!Vivax move votes from scum!Sandroba to scum!Yamato in that situation?

are you implying that vivax is probably scum here?
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Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 02:31 GMT
#1999
On April 28 2015 11:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 11:23 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm drunk, go bolts. @LS, can you explain how it confirms Yamato? I can see it either way, but I might have missed something.

With the way the votes were going and seeing Sandroba flip scum and how Vivax tried to get people off of Sandroba to Yamato pretty much confirms Yamato as town at least in my mind I know it might be faulty logic but why would scum!Vivax move votes from scum!Sandroba to scum!Yamato in that situation?


what if vivax is town and just really thought yamato was mafia and sandroba mafia. You voted for yamato so you must have thought this at one point
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
April 28 2015 02:31 GMT
#2000
On April 28 2015 07:43 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm just saying, I'd be the best promoter. I play UMVC, USF4, MKX and I watch UFC/boxing. I know hype!



We might be spirit brothers.

Who's your MKx main?
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