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On May 09 2015 12:13 Damdred wrote: I'm just talking and I wish jat could talk more but maybe someone will talk with me. I kinda think that someone is lying about damage from n1. N2 We have 4 kp accounted for, n3 we had 2 due to me blocking Yamato, we don't know what I ended up blocking because of xatas counter which I hope he explains more soonish. N1 however I blocked vivax and we still had 5 kp accounted for 2 on xata 2 on hat 1 on hf. The idea I'm using is that we are working against a 5 man mafia team and a antitown SK. We might have other 3rd parties il not sure. n1 suggests if we believe all the dmg suggests either a 6 man scum team or a 5 man scum team and 2 third party big hitters. I kind of think someone lied about dmg meh... So break N1 down for me. From what we have we can assume there was 1 factional kp on HF, 2 on Xata (at least 1 is most likely confirmed because of shinings track onto FF) 2 on JAT and then theres random damage on marv which probs isnt factional kp but that 4 dmg thing plus other dmg because mafia was most likely setting it up for him to go in the fight. So thats 5 factional with an outside chance of 6 right? We lynch one so N2 it goes down to 4 which makes sense. N3 it goes down to two probably because of your RB on yamato which makes sense again. Except the damage on yourself and shining had we found a probable reason for that? Where do you think someone lied about damage? | ||
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Low Blow: deal 4 damage to a player. and if they fight the next day they deal 2 less damage and take 2 more damage. on marv so marvs damage is still unaccounted for if it isnt factional kp. Or would the order of the playerlist allowed that to go through if you were above him? | ||
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On May 09 2015 14:46 Damdred wrote: I was last on the player list. There's lots of ways Marv could of taken that dmg, more than likely they bunched up all the small pimches they had on him but it couldn't have been any of vivaxes stuff. and the only other fli[[ed mafia with damage abilities was yamato and it is very likely his liver punch was put on rso since she took 2 dmg and a roleblock. So it would have to be the unflipped mafia/3p that are respondible for this or it is actually factional KP. That paragraph might be useless but i thought its interesting. | ||
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Wouldn't it be better to go for a lynch on stutters, bats or chez? | ||
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On May 09 2015 19:31 Holyflare wrote: I don't particularly think any of those people are mafia though? They have 1-2 people left and at least one of them has the ability to switch fights around, stutters has dmg'd me and bus driven me, chez has done some weird shit giving people towels and radios and sending me to see my mother and that just leaves bats and obi, I mean, if you want to hedge your bets it's probably best to kill 2 of them at once since bats claimed 30 hp or something entirely ridiculous but in terms of powers obi has been moving into some weird shit places and people have been taking dmg and we've never seen his power go off and he's been generally underwhelming. I really don't see how obi goes from the last newbie game where he was flaming people and telling them to play and getting all annoyed at people not particularly doing things and being all pro town to this games obi unless he's genuinely uninterested and mafia/3p. I guess you could make the argument for bats not using powers too but he's done some stubborn shit like putting people into fights that he thought were best instead of listening to people and meh I got this far and realised he hasn't really done much either  basically i may have actually taken kp which means 2 kp happened yesterday and bats was rb'd so meh? im not arguing that obi should die, if he doesn't die from the fight im happy to lynch him tomorrow. From my own ability and the way it worked if the fight was going to be changed it would have been notified 12 hours before the deadline which has already passed so i don't believe that will happen. Can you explain the stutters bus driving thing does the damage add up did that ever get resolved? Could he not of just used an 8 damage ability on you and the damage on sep was factional because that would bring it up to 5 factional kp for N2 after lynching one mafia. Which would make sense if damdred blocked mafia KP N1 and they had 6 kp that night. | ||
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On May 09 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote: sep was crazy scummy that night? don't think mafia would have used kp on him at all??? didn't he claim cop in the day phase? it doesn't add up at all anyway, the missing dmg is only 1 or 2 and loads of people keep seemingly taking 1 or 2 little bits of dmg for no reason Mmm I don't remember/wasn't in touch with the game as much as i should have been so idk but from what i remember even if he was scummy we were going to be putting him into fights because he said he was a heavy hitter so I could say mafia could have put kp on him because they ddin't want us to utilize his extra damage. I realize im grasping here though. On May 09 2015 20:01 Holyflare wrote: ^ the most relevant part the stuff about the fight changing was that it got changed on day 2 into me and marv so mafia have that power (maybe 3p? but unlikely since mafia should have one of those powers if town does?) and the other people you mentioned had powers that weren't particularly relevant to fight changing, bus drivers/item vendor thing I don't really want to lynch bats either he is on the bottom of that lynch list for me. | ||
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On May 09 2015 20:20 Holyflare wrote: Well like... Do you agree or disagree with what I said about the powers then? :o obi is ultimately the best lynch imo since there could be variables that we don't know about if he's mafia in a fight Like what variable of he doesn't die we kill him tomorrow. He has already been in a fight it can't be that bad. I disagree with the powers thing because stutters could easily be mafia and he never actually bussed the damage he just used an ability on you that does 8 dmg then the mafia used factional kp to damage sep. Also I don't get your play anymore since if sep did bus your PGO power it didn't actually do that much damage when you made it sound like it would do enough to kill. Ultimately this doesn't really matter though im just of the mind that we should see if obi dies in the fights because if he does we get an extra kill this phase and if he doesn't we can just lynch him tomorrow with damdred RBing him in the night | ||
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On May 09 2015 20:57 Holyflare wrote: You can't just say that you were "out of touch with the game" and then make bold statements like stutters was lying about the dmg and to cover that elaborate lie he used mafia kp on the guy absolutely everyone was scum reading before he claimed cop as well as 8 dmg on me when all he knew was that he could potentially die. That's just crazy irrational. Yeh, hedging your bets and saying we can do all that stuff to obi tomorrow is fine. I'm just wanting the cool play of lynching mafia every day for a million days straight  Bats, however, is not that great of a lynch if there's potentially 2 mafia kp floating around today. Chez... I don't really know. Seems towny for power intentions but powers seem scummy as hell. Make someone leave game, give kp and die, anonymous qt? Also gave sl ability to quit game too. Seems pretty anti town at least and arguably better than a bats lynch. yeah its out there but if there is still mafia left after obi and LS die im saying i most likely think it is stutters. I agree on bats and idk wtf to think about chez I don't really see him being mafia though 3p if anything he is having too much fun for him to be on a team that is seemingly getting rolled. That's why i'll be voting for stutters but I'm really not fussed if we lynch obi instead. I'll probably end up voting for whoever JAT votes for because he wouldn't be able to change his vote and probs safer to all be on the same wagon. | ||
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Mafia I could only see as chez/bats if it isn't Ls and obi. 3p is harder as it could be HF or xata but I don't really know shit about 3p | ||
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On May 10 2015 07:20 Damdred wrote: Xata, do you have any other abilities besides the counter? Breshke did you have to make the decision to use all that befor a certain point? did ls not make you second guess yourself/ Yes Cutoff was 12 hours before deadline if it was this morning I probably wouldn't have done it and just let it played out again. There was also something you said last phase about me not using my ability even though I was scum reading him and that was really like yeah why don't I just kill him but I honestly regret it right now. | ||
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Inspector Javert - Could be scum/3p Chezinu - Could be scum/3p sicklucker - Could be 3p, I don't really think it is possible for him to be scum because looking at his herbs list I don't see how if he was scum he wouldn't jsut give them all to scummates since he already gave one to FF. I say he could be thrid party but it seems kind of out there since he obviously has this present giving like ability so if he is just meant to outlast everyone I don't see how we would ever catch him like ehh very very likely town. Holyflare - could be 3p. something doesn't really add up for his early play when he first wanted fight prometer and said he would trade one for one with mafia yet when stutters redirected the damage of his pgo thing it only came out to be like damage which HF would know there isn't enough to kill someone since he obviously has more than 8 hp himself since stutters hit him for 8. Xatalos - could be 3p. Scum go tracked to delivering kp to him which is like 99% sure so very very very unlikely he is scum. Damdred - TOWN. Has very very likely roleblocked scum KP multiple times dont really see how he could be 3p How are you even ment to catch 3p roles? I legit don't get it don't they just play the same as town. Like xata if he is third party either took a massive risk with mafia killing him because he has been townie most of the game but maybe he thought his ability would protect him enough idk whereas HF had his PGO dont target me thing which would be a good cover. So yeah TOWN Damdred SL Xata (3p?) HF(3p?) Scum/3p Bats Chez I don't even really have reasons for bats/chez being scum other than PoE. | ||
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On May 10 2015 05:20 indignant wrote: Why are you lying? He did not do that - I asked him. Also this feels like it needs answering HF | ||
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On May 10 2015 15:49 Damdred wrote: Like we lynch bats tommorow I think. He admits to visiting xata n1 when his fights are daytime abilities, his amateur fights ended and suddenly 3 dmg stops going out to the most towny people eod. I think he's scum in this scenario. I'm thinking id probably rather lynch bats over chez aswell. Is it possible that we have killed all the mafia already and only have 3 p left? Also if we lose after this night phase im going to apologize in advance for killing LS | ||
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