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On April 01 2015 12:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 09:29 Crossfire99 wrote:On April 01 2015 09:20 LightningStrike wrote: Well I went to eat dinner and saw we ended up at Night 2 and Crossfire faked his own death. To much WIFOM man.... @Crossfire: Did you learn anything from Day 2 and if so what did you learn? The things I noticed is that Keirathi actually did work looking at my meta to determine if I would bus. He legit did the work there because I remembered the stuff he was talking about. Whether he would do that work as mafia idk. Sep also seemed to care about my flipped role and seemed to care about it as is so it seemed like he believed it. Outside of that I'm not too sure. Like if this is what you are referring to when you indignantly told me to "read the thread" then you'll forgive me for missing it after THIS: Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 08:32 Crossfire99 wrote:Feels great to be alive. No, seriously. I'm Strong Bad, and you don't know it yet, but I'm the reason you're here. Check me out! No, seriously, check me out.![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/83/Strong_Bad.png) You all already seem to know of the existence of Strong Bad. I am he. Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. My breadcrumb is my first post. On March 28 2015 08:02 Crossfire99 wrote: oaipjdsiou cnmc,xuop ljkj fkla;j fwuqwahnlasf fhqwhgads iopquecjo jioapidjpj ijapodsfj oijf aopdifj
I'm so excited I had to type gibberish. This game will be crazy, I'm sure of it. If you think the crumb is that I typed gibberish because I wear boxing gloves, you'd be forgiven for thinking so, but you're wrong. I obviously can answer emails fine while using my hands because I don't take my hands off. Sheesh. The real bread crumb is the bolded part, the fhqwhgads. Click it to see the reference. Anyways, my ability was to fake my own death and choose the role name, abilities, alignment and flavor text of the fake death me. For the next 24 hrs after fake death I cannot post or be targeted or do anything. After 24 hours a host will announce me as alive. Seeing as how this ability is very weird, I had to think of an inventive way to use it. So I did. I chose a random role, abilities, and flavor, but made it so that I flip mafia. Since I am town, being flipped as mafia will cause confusion. Mafia will know that I'm not mafia because I'm not in their qt. They won't know what is going on and will be unsure of how to proceed with their reads and how to treat connections with me and how to analyze my reads. Everyone else will not care about that and just assume that I am actually mafia. When I actually return to the thread I will be able to point out who had weird reads regarding me after my death. That was the goal at least. Unfortunately, pms were allowed today which means I don't have many reactions to go over lol. Hopefully people will have gotten stuff in pms that they can bring forward. Feel free to ask me whatever questions you want. Right now I don't know a lot of what is happening because it is all happening in pm land, so feel free to pm me because I want to chat. Oh, I also had another ability that would allow me to give one person the ability to PM once during the day. I could then respond in kind, just like how Strong Bad answers emails. Anyway I used it day one to try to better interact with Hapa. He just said hi, I asked him why he was playing that way and told him to respond in thread. Looks like I was wrong and he just really didn't have time to play. T_T ...is the setup for it. You put WAAAAAAY more effort into your reentrance into the thread than you actually did into the parsing of the information you CLAIMED you intentionally injected into the thread. You see what I'm getting at? You'll forgive me for missing it. Did you actually read my stuff? "Unfortunately, pms were allowed today which means I don't have many reactions to go over lol. Hopefully people will have gotten stuff in pms that they can bring forward." So I went over the reactions I could. It's not my fault pms were allowed. The result was not what I wanted and think my ploy failed in the results honestly, but the reason for it was not my fault lol.
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Hi guys I'm not dead. Don't know why. Ask HF why. I even checked with GreY and I'm supposed to be alive. Anyway to celebrate me be alive and not dying you should all watch this. I actually decided to do some work after taking the last 6 years off. + Show Spoiler +
For realz though. I got a bunch of town reads and I'm trying to do some poe, so I think some scum gotta be in this list: keir, HtS, VE, yamato, sep, VA, bat, and kita. This is assuming that all the claimed 3rd party are 3rd party: HF, Trfel, damdred, and alakaslam. I'm not entirely sure if they're all 3rd party yet, though. Honestly, I'm lost on what all the 3rd party win conditions are (or supposedly are). HF is survivor, damdred is assassin?, Alakaslam is ???, and trfl is what?
Out of the list of potential scum I'd feel most comfortable with either kita, VA, or Hts. Yes, I'm blatantly sheeping other peoples reads right now, but what can I do. I'm pretty lost honestly, and need some help lol. The thing I can add is that from pming with kita is that he definitely isn't as forthcoming with reads and stuff as say rsoultin was. Not sure if that says he's definitely scum but it's something. Kita, I just had a thought. What is your role name? This will help me figure out whether you're scum or not, so humor me.
Random bits of information that I gathered. Pming with slam on night one he told me out of the blue, that ritoky is a powerful role and and could be scum PR or a 3P. Slam also said ritoky's name is Frank. All of that is wrong, but how did he know about Frank since that is rsoultin's role?
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On April 02 2015 13:49 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2015 13:41 Crossfire99 wrote:Hi guys I'm not dead. Don't know why. Ask HF why. I even checked with GreY and I'm supposed to be alive. Anyway to celebrate me be alive and not dying you should all watch this. I actually decided to do some work after taking the last 6 years off. + Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhfHM3jlKnU#t=24 For realz though. I got a bunch of town reads and I'm trying to do some poe, so I think some scum gotta be in this list: keir, HtS, VE, yamato, sep, VA, bat, and kita. This is assuming that all the claimed 3rd party are 3rd party: HF, Trfel, damdred, and alakaslam. I'm not entirely sure if they're all 3rd party yet, though. Honestly, I'm lost on what all the 3rd party win conditions are (or supposedly are). HF is survivor, damdred is assassin?, Alakaslam is ???, and trfl is what? Out of the list of potential scum I'd feel most comfortable with either kita, VA, or Hts. Yes, I'm blatantly sheeping other peoples reads right now, but what can I do. I'm pretty lost honestly, and need some help lol. The thing I can add is that from pming with kita is that he definitely isn't as forthcoming with reads and stuff as say rsoultin was. Not sure if that says he's definitely scum but it's something. Kita, I just had a thought. What is your role name? This will help me figure out whether you're scum or not, so humor me. Random bits of information that I gathered. Pming with slam on night one he told me out of the blue, that ritoky is a powerful role and and could be scum PR or a 3P. Slam also said ritoky's name is Frank. All of that is wrong, but how did he know about Frank since that is rsoultin's role? You just told me like 2 hours before the day flip that you agreed with me that HtS looked town. What changed? Also that list of 3 looks strange considering HtS is hard-scumreading kita. How likely do you think it is that they are scum together?
What changed is that I had a chance to reread filters of 100% confirmed townies who are now dead. You know when you don't have a strong impression either way on someone, and when someone tells you how they are reading someone it colors how you read them? When you explained why you thought she was town, I reread her, but what you said was in my head, so I read her as town. I reread her now with what dead confirmed townies think of her and it's enough for me to change my mind and consider her as a potential lynch target. Honestly, I'm ultimately still up in the air about her, but I'd put her in the will potentially lynch category.
Screw this we're lynching HtS. She's scum. This is probably a double bus scenario. Thanks keirathi for making me reread more. If you're town, you did your job. If you're scum...oops? Let's go through her filter shall we?
She starts off wanting kita in the adventuring party and basically calling him town right away in all these quotes and agreeing with his lynch targets like BH. + Show Spoiler +On March 29 2015 04:56 Half the Sky wrote: I've scanned/read up to page 30 and my general thoughts so far:
Votes for the party: Any of ExO, Keirathi, HF or Kitaman would do.
Keirarthi seems pretty straightforward, and I like ExO's general approach/tone to his game. Kitaman seems to have the same approach (picking out scummy points as he can) as he has had in his town games in Carol and JOAT, and I am quite comfortable with him, even if he doesn't post that much. I'm also fine with HF's train of thought, and tone-wise he appears to be speaking naturally. On March 29 2015 05:26 Half the Sky wrote: ObiWanShinobi said that he'd vote for anyone that wasn't Kita early on. I realise that was early on though. Was that a joke, has that since changed if it wasn't?
And if you still don't like Kita, why? I was pretty content with him. On March 29 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote: Chez, to answer your question, there are a few people in this community that go against the current meta of posting more = more likely to be town. Obviously if Kita does jack all the next cycle, then obviously that's cause for concern, but there are people like him, LoneMeow and even Trfel that don't post much but they are still fairly readable with the content they have. Kita's posts as town in his town games have generally been simple and either advancing town agenda directly or showing that he's scumhunting. So the volume isn't there, but the content is.
He's not a crazy case maker, nor is he an Eden or a Marv that spams like crazy trying to converse with everyone. But he's still reading as town based on his content. On March 31 2015 04:53 Half the Sky wrote: I say phrases like that with people because I've made the mistake of scumreading people (or in the case of VA in NYE Party) I've pushed mislynches as town because I didn't know their meta simply because I've not played with them before.
In the current meta, filter length is being made as an argument for scumreading someone, and there are players that I think we need to look beyond that (such as Kita, who is not a spammer for instance). Call it cautious but that's just my interpretation of the way some people play and based on my experiences with people I've not had a game with before. On April 01 2015 02:59 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm......removing my vote from VA. BH smells fishy and with all the bussing supposedly going on EVEN IF we believe that VA was marv's target, there's no guarantee that's who the check was on ultimately. Or that even if he DID check VA, that the check itself wasn't tampered with by a framer-like role. I've been discussing this cop trifecta/mechanics thing with a couple of people, admittedly I generally have a rough time in normal games grasping some of these mechanics lol. I had a town lean on VA going into N1 and a scum read from Kita's meta read on BH, so I was a bit surprised when I saw the red check at first.
Even marv noted the weird view HtS had on kita. + Show Spoiler +On March 29 2015 08:58 Chezitwo wrote: The only other thing I noted down (up to the point of this Trfel post) is that I was curious why Half the Sky liked kitaman, given how little kitaman has done. I don't really have a read on kitaman either way, and it's curious that HtS feels the need to pick him out as someone townie. On March 29 2015 09:15 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote: Chez, to answer your question, there are a few people in this community that go against the current meta of posting more = more likely to be town. Obviously if Kita does jack all the next cycle, then obviously that's cause for concern, but there are people like him, LoneMeow and even Trfel that don't post much but they are still fairly readable with the content they have. Kita's posts as town in his town games have generally been simple and either advancing town agenda directly or showing that he's scumhunting. So the volume isn't there, but the content is.
He's not a crazy case maker, nor is he an Eden or a Marv that spams like crazy trying to converse with everyone. But he's still reading as town based on his content. Could you just explain a little what in his content makes him likely to be town? A better question - can you explain what in he has posted you don't think he can post as mafia? What has he posted that you don't think he could fake as mafia? The Iron Bank thanks you for your continued business. On March 29 2015 20:55 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 08:58 Chezitwo wrote: The only other thing I noted down (up to the point of this Trfel post) is that I was curious why Half the Sky liked kitaman, given how little kitaman has done. I don't really have a read on kitaman either way, and it's curious that HtS feels the need to pick him out as someone townie. Half the Sky is probably a pretty good shot at mafia.
So she goes from basically thinking he's town and agreeing with his reads to what...to what she just posted at the beginning of this day.
On April 02 2015 09:01 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2015 08:53 Keirathi wrote: It's really, really, really hard for me to imagine a game where notmafia HF, jat, and kita are all still alive on day 3. :\ So last night I used a redirect power on Kita, thinking he might be scum. I realise kp is factional, but if he had some anti-town ability it would have reflected on me as a result. I have maintained a fear read on him since the beginning of the game based on a number of things in the filter (despite my initial town read), his track record as scum (database) and left my last will privately with 3-4 others that I trusted in the event something he did or took killed me as a result. Damdred had done some sort of test though on Kita and Kita according to him has come up scum with Rasputin coming up town, which obviously now is confirmed. I'm sure there's a mole in there somewhere amongst the people I talked to or left a last will, so it's possible that a scum Kita, if Kita is scum may have pulled his action back. I cannot know this. I had asked him what his role was privately and he didn't answer. Like not even a semblance of a response. I wasn't afraid to divulge what I had since I didn't think it was that potent in the grand scheme of things (not compared to other abilities being talked about) and honestly being town, I had nothing to be afraid of really. JAT probed me for my abilties as well, If him and Kita are scum together it's possible any action Kita could have taken would have been pulled back given all the individuals I talked to. LS is confirmed town, Sepulchre is almost certainly town based on all the PMing I've been doing with him, and BH is looking a bit better also given the PMs I've had with him. I'm inclined to believe and trust Damdred with what he's done, and I think Kitaman should actually be the lynch today. Pass the tinfoil hat. ##vote kitaman27 The important part is the bolded part. She maintains she was fearful of him since the beginning. That is patently not true. The only possible thing in her filter that could be construed as having a possible less than town view of kita is this quote.
On March 29 2015 09:13 Half the Sky wrote: Chez, to answer your question, there are a few people in this community that go against the current meta of posting more = more likely to be town. Obviously if Kita does jack all the next cycle, then obviously that's cause for concern, but there are people like him, LoneMeow and even Trfel that don't post much but they are still fairly readable with the content they have. Kita's posts as town in his town games have generally been simple and either advancing town agenda directly or showing that he's scumhunting. So the volume isn't there, but the content is.
He's not a crazy case maker, nor is he an Eden or a Marv that spams like crazy trying to converse with everyone. But he's still reading as town based on his content. She still calls him town but just leaves room to call him scum if he doesn't do anything. Literally everything she's done up to this point has assumed he is town with no indication otherwise.
Lynch HtS or kita. Don't really care which. They're both scum. Even marv noticed something + Show Spoiler +On March 30 2015 05:08 Chezitwo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:07 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 30 2015 05:06 kitaman27 wrote:On March 30 2015 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Also LAWL at Kita choosing the hardest person in the game to mason with. Aside from the difficulty with figuring him out, are you saying he is not a good person to bounce ideas off of if he is indeed town? On March 30 2015 05:03 yamato77 wrote:On March 30 2015 05:02 kitaman27 wrote:On March 30 2015 04:50 justanothertownie wrote: Possible lynches: Trfel Damdred Crossfire Hapa BH
The list I gave to HF was Trfel, Damdred, hapa, BH, batsnacks, yamato. I don't remember why I crossed off xfire, but I do know that I did at one point. Anything to add on this one? lol nvm what a joker Wait...I....uhhh......I never said that was a scum list. Maybe you're about to win a prize? Please don't leave me  You can bounce ideas off him in the thread Kita. Though I will say that it makes as little sense for you to mason him as mafia. I'm just salt you didn't mason me. It's w/e. I might say that kitaman is one of very few players I think might try to pull that off as mafia.
Right now I think they're both scum. Kita has been getting more and more pressure lately and now with people like rsoultin scum reading kita and her being dead and town, kita was a viable lynch option. HtS is just getting ahead of the wagon so she can use his eventual mafia flip to her credit.
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On April 03 2015 00:53 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2015 13:41 Crossfire99 wrote: For realz though. I got a bunch of town reads and I'm trying to do some poe, so I think some scum gotta be in this list: keir, HtS, VE, yamato, sep, VA, bat, and kita.
So all four players that I brought up as mafia are on your mafia list and now you're pushing my lynch due to a pre-flip association case with HTS, a comment from marv that I like playing mafia, and rsoul's very poor death post, which I'll have to yell at her postgame for? Is my game plan to bus my entire team or what? Why are you basing your read on ticky tack reasons rather content from my filter? Eh, fine. We'll lynch her first and then I'll get to you. How about that? Even if you're town, I don't like her at all.
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Yeah, I don't need to wait any longer. I'm voting. I'll wait on you, kita, until the next day. Your actual alignment doesn't matter when looking at her weird interaction with you. She might have just needed to find another lynch. *shrugs* whatever.
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On April 03 2015 01:25 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 01:01 Crossfire99 wrote: Yeah, I don't need to wait any longer. I'm voting. I'll wait on you, kita, until the next day. Your actual alignment doesn't matter when looking at her weird interaction with you. She might have just needed to find another lynch. *shrugs* whatever.
##Vote Half the Sky Pot. Kettle. Black? This coming from someone whose gameplay has been bleeding scum from the off. Ironic. If you're saying I'm mafia, then you are 1000% mafia. You've been just about as vague, broad, and noncomittal as they come, you had probably the worst response imaginable to when three of us were pushing you N1, and my "weird" interactions with Kita (unless you're talking about the vote itself, which I couched specifically) are not only unsupported on your end, but what I did have with Kita was pretty straightforward. If anyone is scraping for another lynch, it's you. Was marv scraping for another lynch? He also thought you were scum? He's definitely not a pot or a kettle. He was a cop. Yeah my play has been crazy and ridiculous, sure. I will say that the whole N1 whatever was me coming in skimming the thread seeing a bunch of people calling me scum and assuming everyone was, so I that's why I said that. I'm not scum, but you are. It's not only me saying your scum it is marv and he's dead and he is 100% town.
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On April 03 2015 01:50 Holyflare wrote: Jat and xfire have been lying to you all. Nope, you have. I haven't been poisoned and I specifically asked GreY about it because I will find out when I will die. And I ain't dying anytime soon. So you're lying about poisoning me or you got redirected.
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On April 03 2015 01:53 Holyflare wrote: Xfire pm: i have a power that delays all actions on me by a day
Xfire thread: you lied hf! Not true at all. So now we lynch HF! That's not even what I said in my pm.
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Nope HF is lying. We lynch him. He's not a survivor. IF he is, he isn't playing for us and he's playing for scum. What I said in my pm is that I got 2 new ones. The first is a passive delay my death by one phase and a death framer. That's it. HF is lying!
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Yeah don't do that HtS. That's against the rules.
You may NOT quote directly any PM you receive from a host or another player.
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On April 03 2015 01:56 Holyflare wrote:That's exactly what i just said rofl! That's not what I said. I said specifically my death and only my death. You said all actions. I never said that.
On April 03 2015 01:53 Holyflare wrote: Xfire pm: i have a power that delays all actions on me by a day
Xfire thread: you lied hf!
The best part about my ability is that I know when it activates and it hasn't, so you're lying.
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Lynch HtS or HF!
See my case on HtS. Ignore the part on why kita is mafia because it doesn't matter for what I said about her.
Also, HF is lying because I told him specifically what my power was and he lied about it. Also he never poisoned me.
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On April 03 2015 02:06 Holyflare wrote: I have a legitimate strategy that has fully paid off and found 2 mafia. I will tell you all when you lynch me. If you're actually talking about me then you're just wrong. If you're actually a survivor you shouldn't want to be lynched. So mafia? Yeah I think so.
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On April 03 2015 02:29 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 02:01 Crossfire99 wrote: Lynch HtS or HF!
See my case on HtS. Ignore the part on why kita is mafia because it doesn't matter for what I said about her.
Also, HF is lying because I told him specifically what my power was and he lied about it. Also he never poisoned me. But that was your whole case? That she was mafia because of how she interacted with kita. And that marv called her scummy in the early part day 1 I guess. There's been a lot of game since day 1, though. What makes you so sure that he was right? Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 00:48 Crossfire99 wrote: What changed is that I had a chance to reread filters of 100% confirmed townies who are now dead. You know when you don't have a strong impression either way on someone, and when someone tells you how they are reading someone it colors how you read them? When you explained why you thought she was town, I reread her, but what you said was in my head, so I read her as town. I reread her now with what dead confirmed townies think of her and it's enough for me to change my mind and consider her as a potential lynch target. Honestly, I'm ultimately still up in the air about her, but I'd put her in the will potentially lynch category.
Also, the bolded part doesn't ring very true. My exact words to you were "I looked back at HtS today and I think she might be town. Her filter looks pretty okay except for the second guessing herself all the time." That doesn't look like a glowing recommendation that should color your read very much? It's how her read changed on kita with no explanation whatsoever. She said she was always suspicious of him, but she never said anything indicating that at all. She only called him town or agreed with his case on BH or whatever. She just comes in today saying to vote him and claims that she was suspicious of him from the beginning. I used the fact that marv also noticed her weird town view of kita immediately to show that her view on kita changed unnaturally. It from definitely town like an assumption and backed that up to now all of a sudden it is scum.
As for my quotes. Yeah those were your exact words, but that thinking she might be town was more than I had at the time. So I when I read her with that in mind, I was like I can see her as town. But then I reread like I said and found all the stuff I wrote in my case.
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What is going on!? I'm having trouble following everything because I'm on my phone right now. I don't understand who is claiming who visited someone. I saw my name. Idk. All I know is that I didn't do anything last night. I decided not to use my death frame ability and figured I should just sit pat...
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On April 03 2015 04:44 Damdred wrote: i'm not sure how that disproves those three visited slam and are the most likely moriarty candidates unless you are claiming mor in thread So he is the one saying I did something. And he's looking for Moriarty. You do know I claimed strong bad, right? I literally breadcrumbed it in my very first part of the game and bh already said that strong bad exists. Why do you even think I'm a possibility!?
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On April 04 2015 01:18 Holyflare wrote: holy shit kita I said it literally doesn't matter anymore, there has been a monumental fuck up and jat and xfire are not confirmed mafia anymore
talk about yamato, my poison is unblockable so if xfire doesn't die tomorrow he's mafia I'm not dying tomorrow and I'm not poisoned so you are lying or were redirected. I get confirmation when my death delaying ability activates and I specifically asked and it hasn't activated.
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On April 04 2015 01:05 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +Yamato has also been calling xfire scum forever and as soon as I tell him I have a check on JAT/Xfire he said I'm being shit and am probably mafia and there's probably mafia between me and jat. None of this is based on anything. My check should have confirmed his suspicions on xfire being mafia and should seal the deal on JAT. Keirathi's excellent point on yamato's stance switches further adds to the point that yamato is quite happy to vote whoever the hell is on the chopping block at that moment. Very likely mafia because of this apathy and reads that don't make sense. Let's get back to this. I'd lynch yamato. He'd been calling me scum almost the entire game. He then says that either you or JAT are probably scum.
On April 03 2015 10:46 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 10:44 Holyflare wrote:On April 03 2015 10:43 Blazinghand wrote: Holyflare. just listen for a thrice-damned second. There's a redcheck on VA.
ok are we clear disregard the red check on va because there's probably 6 mafia, if you aren't it then you're shutting everything down for no reason, damdred is not mafia here and jat is trying to push the 3p lynch to win I can't tell who is mafia but one of HF/JAT has to be at this point. VA is my vote over damdred though so there's that.
You then say that you have proof JAT and I are lying, and then he says he won't vote for me unless you reveal more info. That makes no sense.
On April 03 2015 11:31 yamato77 wrote: if HF won't claim I'm not lynching him or JAT/xfire
JAT talk to me about this damdred thing
You're saying I'm guaranteed scum and he's thought that for like the entire game and now he doesn't think I should be lynched? I agree it makes no sense and this is definitely scummy. What do other people think?
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On April 04 2015 01:37 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 01:35 Crossfire99 wrote:On April 04 2015 01:18 Holyflare wrote: holy shit kita I said it literally doesn't matter anymore, there has been a monumental fuck up and jat and xfire are not confirmed mafia anymore
talk about yamato, my poison is unblockable so if xfire doesn't die tomorrow he's mafia I'm not dying tomorrow and I'm not poisoned so you are lying or were redirected. I get confirmation when my death delaying ability activates and I specifically asked and it hasn't activated. Can you get a confirmation that actions would resolve on you n1, even with the fake flip? I know that they 100% would have because someone got strongbad as result for a role check, but I'll ask to make sure.
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On April 04 2015 01:46 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 01:37 kitaman27 wrote:On April 04 2015 01:35 Crossfire99 wrote:On April 04 2015 01:18 Holyflare wrote: holy shit kita I said it literally doesn't matter anymore, there has been a monumental fuck up and jat and xfire are not confirmed mafia anymore
talk about yamato, my poison is unblockable so if xfire doesn't die tomorrow he's mafia I'm not dying tomorrow and I'm not poisoned so you are lying or were redirected. I get confirmation when my death delaying ability activates and I specifically asked and it hasn't activated. Can you get a confirmation that actions would resolve on you n1, even with the fake flip? I know that they 100% would have because someone got strongbad as result for a role check, but I'll ask to make sure. I just got an answer what I said is correct. Actions could target me N1, so either HF is lying or was redirected.
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