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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 21:07 GMT
#3705
On April 01 2015 06:06 batsnacks wrote:
*everyone goes and PMs exo instead of taking it to the thread and actually getting a good lynch going*

I got your back bro. Certainly not pming that guy.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 21:31 GMT
#3711
On April 01 2015 06:28 Keirathi wrote:
Oh hey look I was right. Hapa wasn't mafia after all.

Yay for people ignoring me!

You are a hero. Who should have died in his place?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 21:44 GMT
#3715
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 21:51 GMT
#3720
On April 01 2015 06:48 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

I'm not sure.

I just got home, give me a while to go through the thread and collect my thoughts again. I did a lot of ruling people out last night, but not a lot of actually narrowing down my suspects.

Are you talking about the list you posted? Otherwise I also take your reasons to rule out people.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 21:52 GMT
#3721
On April 01 2015 06:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
by the way i seem to remember a lot of people saying hapa was town despite there being overwhelming evidence that he wasn't playing like normal, someone look into that because I can't remember who was doing it


Fwiw I said hapa could be town in pms, but that was mostly based on associatives.

Ritoky said he could be town too iirc, but he's dead so.


nahhh day 1 before he even posted anything

Definitely ritoky. Dunno who else.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 22:13 GMT
#3729
On April 01 2015 07:11 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

Also, it comes to me that for someone who is being extremely town-circle'y and town-leader'y, I have absolutely no idea who YOU want to lynch.

That's kind of scary.

Yeah, there is a good reason for that trust me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 22:19 GMT
#3731
On April 01 2015 07:17 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 07:13 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 07:11 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 06:43 Keirathi wrote:
Also, FWIW the only way I see BH being mafia in this game is if both Lestrad and Moriarty are mafia. And I'm not really sure that I think they both even CAN be mafia. It would be strange for the mafia team to have 2 separate role-check'esque abilities.

Well, I guess there's the possibility that there's a third FACTION, rather than just a solo 3p.

But yea, town Moriarty and scum Lestrad in this situation, as claimed, doesn't make any sense.

I tend to agree (inb4 Koshi shitstorm).

Apart from snarfs, who do you think is scum?

Also, it comes to me that for someone who is being extremely town-circle'y and town-leader'y, I have absolutely no idea who YOU want to lynch.

That's kind of scary.

Yeah, there is a good reason for that trust me.

That's weak.

I mean, I get that I'm not being included in the town circle jerk for whatever reason. But this is still a game of mafia and we still have to lynch scum.

Yes, and I like this mindset.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 22:31 GMT
#3732
In general I think people should start posting more in the thread.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:01 GMT
#3736
what.the.fuck
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:04 GMT
#3739
On April 01 2015 08:03 Blazinghand wrote:
it seems probable someone, probably scum, used a power to end the day after 24 rather than 48 hours.

I'd like to note that if everyone just blindly followed my lead we'd have lynched VA right now

AND skipped day3 you mean?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:09 GMT
#3745
On April 01 2015 08:05 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 07:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
I wouldn't mind if we ditch the check shit and start scum hunting as per normal.

I wouldn't mind hearing people's thoughts on yamato.

He feels pretty town.

My only small reservation is that during the night, he said something like "I read Chezitwo's and VA's filters, and at least one of them is probably scum." But then after Chez flipped town and people started saying that VA was probably redchecked, he didn't want to lynch VA.

If yamato is scum he has improved his scumgame at least. I think there are scummier people than him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:10 GMT
#3746
Although one should note that marv was suspicious of him :/
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:11 GMT
#3747
On April 01 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:
meh -_-

btw if anyone pms me i can't respond

...how did we end up on night 3? i know that's a weird thing to ask but...no night 2 :/

nvm i doubt asking is going to get me anywhere lol ><

Why can't you respond to pms?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:18 GMT
#3750
On April 01 2015 08:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:04 rsoultin wrote:
meh -_-

btw if anyone pms me i can't respond

...how did we end up on night 3? i know that's a weird thing to ask but...no night 2 :/

nvm i doubt asking is going to get me anywhere lol ><

Why can't you respond to pms?


dunnae

just can't :/ some ability or item or other probably but yeah i dunnae

Ok, you are aware that it is night 2 I hope.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:38 GMT
#3762
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:45 GMT
#3769
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:51 GMT
#3774
On April 01 2015 08:49 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?


He said his ability is to fake his own death. That implies, to me, that he wasn't actually targeted by KP.

Unless you know something.

Yes, learn to read please.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:53 GMT
#3775
On April 01 2015 08:51 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?

To find out if said person has a way to stop the kill from going through?

I dunno, maybe that's no optimal and you could check lesser priority people to see if they had powerful roles that might be more beneficial to kill than the high-priority townies, but I think as scum I would probably rather make sure my kill on the high-priorities could go through than check someone who's just on the sidelines.

Also, things like role-assassin, while I dont remember ever being used in a GreYMisT game, are possible. In that kind of scenario, the mafia role-cop would probably check a higher priority person so the assassin can shoot them.

Wasn't there shit like this in catastrophe?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:56 GMT
#3780
On April 01 2015 08:55 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:51 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?

To find out if said person has a way to stop the kill from going through?

I dunno, maybe that's no optimal and you could check lesser priority people to see if they had powerful roles that might be more beneficial to kill than the high-priority townies, but I think as scum I would probably rather make sure my kill on the high-priorities could go through than check someone who's just on the sidelines.

Also, things like role-assassin, while I dont remember ever being used in a GreYMisT game, are possible. In that kind of scenario, the mafia role-cop would probably check a higher priority person so the assassin can shoot them.

Wasn't there shit like this in catastrophe?

I don't remember because YOU KILLED ME NIGHT 1 /sadface

I know there was a mafia role-assassin in Boardwalk Empire, but that was PYP. It's definitely not an unheard of role on TL.

Should have rolled a different role bro
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 31 2015 23:57 GMT
#3781
On April 01 2015 08:56 Crossfire99 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:53 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:51 Crossfire99 wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:49 batsnacks wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?


He said his ability is to fake his own death. That implies, to me, that he wasn't actually targeted by KP.

Unless you know something.

I was not killed by KP last night. I chose my manner of death btw. The kill flavor was all my idea.

So, if you're telling the truth, how exactly does you flipping yourself as scum help the town? You say "confuse the mafia" or whatever, but doesn't it confuse town more?

Also, you said your goal was to gather information on people's reads about your death/etc. So what are your thoughts?

As I said in my big post most people talked in pms so I couldn't read that obviously. For what it is worth, everyone including yourself who posted in thread about me seemed to take it at face value and I could discern no extra knowledge coloring your reads.

It's really easy to react naturally to this as mafia. I think you confused town way more which is very unfortunate.
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