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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 09 2015 18:50 GMT
#1421
On April 10 2015 01:06 Onegu wrote:
@ritoky


miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone.
Where'd you go?
I miss you so,
Seems like it's been forever,
That you've been gone,
Please come back home...


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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 18:51 GMT
#1422
That rogue h bothers me
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 18:52 GMT
#1423
Would shoot vivax for thinking 2 tiny posts on ritoky of all people is sufficient contribution.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 18:53 GMT
#1424
On April 10 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 01:20 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 10 2015 01:08 Holyflare wrote:
And gb if that's your only question after everything I regret ever defending you. I'd pick the team with the most intelligent people on it.


That's my only question for now as I am still catching up. Your answer was very dodgy. Pick a team now please


Lol I'm not sure you understand the game correctly at all. I'd pick c and add vivax because he does science stuff.


Well, it seems so. Then I'll disclose everything I thought it was.
Let me get to my computer
I'm adorable.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 09 2015 18:54 GMT
#1425
On April 10 2015 03:52 Holyflare wrote:
Would shoot vivax for thinking 2 tiny posts on ritoky of all people is sufficient contribution.


it doesn't really make sense either, he says i am hiding behind pictures, but in crunch time around the lynch i switched to actual posting because i was having a tough time and needed to be serious.

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 09 2015 18:55 GMT
#1426
On April 10 2015 03:46 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 01:23 Damdred wrote:
A 12 hour nap and I'm not among the living.

Stop twisting things I've said hf my change on Eden was explained at least once and you still give wrong facts.

I'm so glad that I can't be frustrated because once again nobody will listen to me and il scummy for it.

I'm getting to work in a fee minutes after some coffee


I haven't twisted anything you've said. You said eden was scummy for doing not much at the start of the game. I asked why it hadn't changed when he started making lists and things and you told me it was because of his read on you and because he still did scummy stuff early. Which I don't buy at all because his read on you wasn't that bad and was shared by quite a few people and your early read should disappear when he did stuff since it counteracts your points. You're stuck using old points and it's scummy. Especially your read on wanting to switch to gb based on resistance from people you don't even scum read. You've also ignored pretty much anything anyone else is talking about, it feels like you're talking past people rather than interacting.

It's quite obvious why there's a difference between gb who had been afk for 20 hours and had good points going for him being town and was pushed solely by the scum reads I had vs a guy that was actually in the thread and asking questions that lead nowhere and then switched to the person he was defending when the wagon on him was large enough + got on my nerves for not revealing his identity and having the cheek to say it was my fault.

this is all pretty good and i agree.

i think i'm gonna keep listing hf as a scumread to piss him off though
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 09 2015 18:56 GMT
#1427
On April 10 2015 02:28 Vivax wrote:
ritoky is mafia

naw bruh
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 19:01 GMT
#1428
Inb4 gb thought my game was a colour coded myriad of imbedded reads meant to have scum reads at the lowest tier of teams and town reads at the top
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 19:14 GMT
#1429
On April 10 2015 04:01 Holyflare wrote:
Inb4 gb thought my game was a colour coded myriad of imbedded reads meant to have scum reads at the lowest tier of teams and town reads at the top


No, I thought you made 4 teams of 3 so 12 people should have to choose a team. As Mafia know their partners and they usually spread votes to distance themselves, this game would work this way (Mafia would spread themselves and you would have more instruments to analyse people). Aware Mafia would probably refuse to participate in the game to make difficult for you to uncover their alignment (and this is why I thought you had yamato and obi as scum - mainly obi, since he insisted that I should reveal the game's meaning in such way that this strategy wouldn't work anymore and he wouldn't have to care to not look bad for not joining in).

Someone willing to spread Mafia so it would be easier to analyse people are following a strong town agenda. A Mafia wouldn't possibly do that without a plan and you posted the game in the very beginning of day1, which restricts the time you would have to plan this shit with your partners. Hence my townread on you.

But now that you revealed this wasn't your intention, it all falls apart.
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 19:18 GMT
#1430
Um no I haven't revealed my intention about the game at all and it does generate reads.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 19:19 GMT
#1431
But i did scum read obi and yamato for not joining and that was part of it because you know... I clearly already wrote that. Comment on not me/game plz.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 09 2015 19:27 GMT
#1432
captain falcon is fucking hilarious to play in melee
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 09 2015 19:30 GMT
#1433
On April 09 2015 20:00 Palmar wrote:
Holyflare is mafia.

First point.

He started this weird game and never did anything with it. This is my weakest point, but the fact that he gave up on it fairly easily without ever trying something more with it is something mafia would do. See my last game where I randomly started talking about having some items and no memory to create some kind of a story. This is a bad point though and there's better to come.




Second point, this one is good.

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar is the aperture Blazinghand of this game with the added bonus of being mean and rude and not jokey like normal. He wants to try hard to find mafia but somehow only has gb as mafia for his one post. His only read was dr and that's just for being bad and nothing more. Not try hard at all just a lot of posts on 1 subject matter blown out of proportion. Lynxh with fire.


HF wants to lynch me for tunneling...

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2015 08:08 Koshi wrote:
I just dont see what hf is doing here as mafia unless both gb and dr are both mafia.


I have a slight scummy read on gb but he's claimed vigilante so willing to let it play out. I'm not going to stop a dr lynch unless he claims his name ever.


... his scumread.

If he is being genuine with "slight scummy read" he should have absolutely no problem with me trying to get things done with it.

Also I want to reiterate how bad and uncompromising hf's "lynch smurf if he doesn't claim" shit was. It was super dumb.




Third point, this is the best one:

I was trying to get people off DR last night and obviously my preferred alternative was GB. Here's what HF had to say about them.

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2015 08:08 Koshi wrote:
I just dont see what hf is doing here as mafia unless both gb and dr are both mafia.


I have a slight scummy read on gb but he's claimed vigilante so willing to let it play out. I'm not going to stop a dr lynch unless he claims his name ever.


Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 07:59 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar that is. Dr i don't know about because nobody thinks him claiming his name is a good idea. He seems like nooby/honest town but only if you take it at face value.


only 10 minutes apart HF basically says:

I townread DR
I scumread GB

But his actions suggest something completely different. He keeps trying to kill DR and ignoring GB. To be honest I don't think he has ever explained his scumread on GB. He has however given us reasons why I shouldn't scumread GB, which seems to contradict his own scumread.

Anyway I point this out in the thread so what does HF do?

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
Dr afking while people do the work to get him off the hook for him means I'm just lynching him.


He fixes the problem by slapping a random shitty scumread on DR!

There we go, now it's all consistent.

But of course we can't forget that HF doesn't lynch claimed blues on day 1. He lets it play out... which brings me to:




point 4

HF's excuse for not lynching his scumread GB is that he doesn't want to lynch the claimed vigi

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 10:12 Holyflare wrote:
Btw bear in mind palmar is hard claiming vigi and never let him say it was a joke/lie or whatever.


Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:
Aint switching off this DR guy unless it's to palmar so cya bed time


Which only applies in some cases.


Holyflare is mafia. Lynch him, shoot him, burn him. Don't let him bullshit his way to day 5 or something like he always fucking does

Palmar gets it.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 09 2015 19:40 GMT
#1434
On April 09 2015 23:23 Holyflare wrote:
Boo fucking hoo. He only looked towny to me in his FINAL reads post. That was what, 30 mins before deadline and yamato was calling for a scummy switch.

you POS

I'm fucking murdering you for this shitpost
Writer@WriterYamato
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 09 2015 19:47 GMT
#1435
yamato are you ok bro?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 19:56 GMT
#1436
On April 10 2015 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
But i did scum read obi and yamato for not joining and that was part of it because you know... I clearly already wrote that. Comment on not me/game plz.


It doesn't matter, I thought this was your plan before you disclosed your reads, that's why I was so bold asking people to join it
You didn't reveal your intention but by being dodgy on not choosing a team shows that my idea WASN'T your intention.

Commenting on other things: I think the scum team is palmar/Damdred/Eden

Palmar tried to get me lynched over poor arguments. His pushes weren't pushes that tried to uncover my alignment. He just used an early post and pointed fingers at me. His questions were mostly rethorical. He didn't actively tried to evaluate my overall gameplay by navigating my filter. This is a Mafia trying to look like and aggressive townie. More than that, he came just after I was suspecting Damdred, in a poor way to discredit my pushes on him.

Damdred has his Mafia meta all over. Passive, disinterested, distorting facts, wishy washy. He knows my fameplay very well, he didn't have any evidence of one of my metas to start calling me Mafia so soon. He has the same stance as palmar: calls me Mafia but doesn't try to uncover my alignment. Doesn't ask me direct questions. He simply calls me Mafia and there's that. More than this, Damdred KNOWS I 180 as town A LOT but scumreads me for that. This single fact already shows that Damdred is certainly Mafia.

Eden is more like unflipped association, I admit. Palmar having double standards on my entrance an his is very indicative. Why was he ignoring Eden when he mostly did the same as me? With that, there is damdred faintly pushing Eden, but never actually trying to get him lynched. Damdred's vote stayed on me. Never on Eden. This "I would lynch GB or Eden but I prefer GB" is bullshit. Added to that, Eden's overall gameplay is uninspiring and his first list post reveals a complete apathy to the game. His weirdest townread was on palmar, that basically said "I haven't read him but he seems to be doing stuff". This is a very fabricated townread out of no good reason. He doesn't read me and call me null. Why?
His reads only got more substance after he was being called out, which is exactly what I would expect Mafia to do.

Now, I find obi suspicious for trying to get me revealing HF's game. It felt like he understood the purpose and was trying to get me talking so he could get away from not joining in. His insistence was just unnatural and his focus on only talking about it felt like he didn't care to give more information from him.

Vivax has been very uninspiring too and he has an okay shot on being Mafia. I have yet to read his filter to form a solid read though.

Koshi looks town to me now. Yes, he made a flawed case on me, but he actually tried to uncover my alignment by filter diving me and getting more information from what I post, which is townie. It reveals effort. His reads also feels original.

RSoultin looks town because she is actively posting and is inquisitive. She looks like she is actually trying to solve the game. The only down point is that she isn't taking strong stances. Like her attitude on "ok, we are lunching gb. Why?". If I am her obvious town read I would expect a stronger stance here.

HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better.

I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 19:58 GMT
#1437
This said, I think Damdred is the best vigi target today. I'm sure he is Mafia.
I'm adorable.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 20:09 GMT
#1438
zzzzz yamato and obiwan most uninspiring players ever
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 20:11 GMT
#1439
still don't know a single reason for why i'm being scum read and if they say "palmars case" without even commenting on the countless times I disproved it or stated my intentions then they are just terrible

obi still yet to pose any argument at all really
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 09 2015 20:16 GMT
#1440
HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better.


I literally just told you that WAS my intention with the game and you're saying it wasn't? I also did not lynch dread because he didn't reveal his name, I lynched him for being scummy and then because there was no alternative with such short time. If I were to perpetuate the you being called mafia argument I would be feeding people as you being mafia but I'm not.

I also don't like your Palmar point because he didn't have double standards he scum read you for not portraying what you think you were portraying with the initial post whereas Eden was nothing like that.

Obi read is based on weird shit that isn't even relevant. Damdred is an on read but meh.

Your reads are pretty lackluster gb it's not really based on like... points in the game at all, it's a bit hypocritical that you're saying palmar is mafia for picking on only one post but then you are calling him mafia for one post with double standards
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