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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 19:58 GMT
#1437
This said, I think Damdred is the best vigi target today. I'm sure he is Mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 20:32 GMT
#1444
On April 10 2015 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
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HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better.


I literally just told you that WAS my intention with the game and you're saying it wasn't? I also did not lynch dread because he didn't reveal his name, I lynched him for being scummy and then because there was no alternative with such short time. If I were to perpetuate the you being called mafia argument I would be feeding people as you being mafia but I'm not.

I also don't like your Palmar point because he didn't have double standards he scum read you for not portraying what you think you were portraying with the initial post whereas Eden was nothing like that.

Obi read is based on weird shit that isn't even relevant. Damdred is an on read but meh.

Your reads are pretty lackluster gb it's not really based on like... points in the game at all, it's a bit hypocritical that you're saying palmar is mafia for picking on only one post but then you are calling him mafia for one post with double standards


On April 10 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:
Um no I haven't revealed my intention about the game at all and it does generate reads.


^ you just said you didn't reveal your intentions...

I say palmar has double standards not because of a single post but for an overall gameplay. He focus on me and ignores Eden.
The scummiest thing dread did was to vote me under the argument I was AFK. But a lot of his posts fitted townie persoextive better. I can't understand how you say you voted him because he is scummy when you simply said to him that you wouldn't vote him if he revealed his name (which simply means you lynched him for this sole reason).
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 21:08 GMT
#1447
On April 10 2015 05:28 Eden1892 wrote:
i have a question for him once day hits tho


How do you know I'll be alive?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 21:23 GMT
#1450
On April 10 2015 05:25 Eden1892 wrote:
so gb you think damdred and my only major pushes this game have been on each other as mafia teammates?

especially since you said you scumread me based on associations this really doesn't make sense


I didn't understand the bolded very well... Break it down for me please?

So, unflipped association: I think palmar is Mafia. I see you having similar behaviour as me. Palmar ignores you and calls me scum for that. I conclude that he is ignoring his Mafia partner.
I think Damdred is Mafia. Damdred calls you Mafia but never tries to convince people you are, or to vote you. Therefore I believe Damdred is afraid to have his Mafia partner lynched.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 09 2015 23:50 GMT
#1497
On April 10 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote:
Have a good night hopefully the vigi is someone sensible

Vivax best shot
Damdred probably good shot
Palmar mafia
Obi probably mafia

Someone in that list is wrong but being bad so don't really care. If you wanna yolo you can yolo gb. Shooting me will solve nothing other than mafia palmar/obi etc agenda and as you just saw palmar is ready for the field day my flip will bring.

Damdred is stuck in the past. Made a big post on him about his reads not fluidly updating. Don't know if afking in part due to being mafia or not but feels off and not cool damdy.

Obi's only scum read in this entire game is apparently me (and gb lolololol yeh can see that from his 0 reasons) and he flat out refuses to explain why about me to anyone. If I die make him explain his read. If it involves anything in Palmar's case lynch him with absolute fire because he scum read me before Palmar's case and those events even happened.

Vivax absolutely a waste of space and when threatened with vig shot trolled and his only scum read is... Ritoky....? Get the fuck outta here.

Palmar is pushing false information. Really just read his case and then the events of the deadline. He says I'm just pushing my interpretation of events but that's not true. He selectively pulled out quotes from my filter to fit his mafia narrative case and left out all the quotes where i perfectly explained myself. Check out his you scum read gb and then town read him for no reason thing. I had so many reasons that I repeated many times. Check it plz plz plz.


Never ever follow yamato. Pick someone with a sensible list like rsoul. She has a good game sense and jk should absolutely be on her tonight. Her list was one of the ones I agreed the most on.

Don't lynch rsoul/ritoky/probablyonegu/koshi was completely absent today but townyish d1 so don't let him fall off but otherwise keep him here

Be absolutely wary of yamato since he is pushing me for palmars case but he was the one commandeering the dr lynch and forcing people onto it too. He said he'd try hard as any alignment and last time he tried he got town read all d1 by people but was mafia.


Eden super underwhelming but not really sure if mafia at all. Seems pretty carefree to be mafia at the moment. Gb list post was super mediocre and contained barely any relevant game info but it's hard to hate it when all the scummy ppl pushed him and it kinda aligned with my/rsoul list.


It's getting hard to believe in you when you simply don't use your game and never tried to get people in it more than Indid, and when you post things like this.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 00:05 GMT
#1503
On April 09 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:
Eden. Do you think GB does more than scratching the surface?

Look at his initial HF is scum because teasing Obi. Nothing really came from it.
Look at when he townreads HF. At that point HF just started his game. Nothing else. Obi called GB rightfullyout on his townread.
Look at his Damdred read. Never was it real pressure. It starts on page 1 of his filter and when does it gets anything real? Does it at all?
Look at how he calls my entrance scummy. He gets then pressured on it and produces a false meta of a game that I never played. Never came back on this mistake. Is that a solving townie mindset? Anyway, he doesn't touch me anymore after that.
Then there are a SHITTON of random "hey you, what is your read on x" But never does GB do anything with the answer he got from that player, or the read given by the player. Because in the end he doesn't really produce any list or shows that he is PoEing this game.
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On April 08 2015 04:23 GlowingBear wrote:
It is also odd that Palmar has no opinion on Eden.

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On April 08 2015 04:27 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 04:24 Koshi wrote:
No it isn't. I also have no opinion on Eden. Maybe a slight townread. But hey. Not posting doesn't help him.


It is.

Eden has posted very content less posts, but palmar treats him differently. This double standards reinforces the scenario where palmar is Mafia.

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On April 08 2015 04:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh, too many scummy people

These 3 posts just seem so fake. And it happened 3 times already. (obi callout on hf, wrong meta on me)
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On April 08 2015 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 06:52 Damdred wrote:
Theres a fw reasons I voted for GB, some of which was calling palmar mafia after town reading him and voting him over his top scum read at the time. His initial postings towards HF and obi felt weird and this is pretty well documented in my filter.

Ritoky is just a gut town read so far, hes pretty trolly and laid back which is a meta read.

But you dread I like your posts, like you just calling me out trying to get more reads I like that.


You know very well I do 180 reads
Damdy, you can't be town this game.

I'm voting you.

The reason why GB is voting Damdred is bullshit. Damdred called GB out on something LEGIT SCUMMY. Then he brushes it away a bit too easy.
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On April 08 2015 08:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Eden your townreads are weird

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On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.

Bullshit and fake. We have to drag out answers out of him? Why? Fuck you GB. You have to give them to us and then complain or stfu. Can't complain about people now playing when he isn't playing himself.

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On April 08 2015 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:12 Eden1892 wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.


more reads more knowledge more winning

why so sad?


Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long


This is actually what you like to do when you're mafia. Tease obi.


Explain this please, GB ^^


HF as Mafia would tease obi in order to guarantee a shitfest.
He enters in an argument with obi, obi gets angry because HF is nitpicking him and gives up / start arguing with HF in an useless discussion, disorganising town.

Check Hearthstone Mafia for a precedent.

you don't think town!HF would just fuck with him for a bit at game start though?
I see where you're coming from but it doesn't really seem to have had the intended effect


It was just a way I found to keep generating discussion. However, if he kept teasing obi, this would fit perfectly.
The thing is that his game thing seems like a good plan to me and it hardly fits any Mafia agenda. That's why I'm willing to call him town for now. The game have yet to begin, though.

Bullshit.
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On April 08 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:39 Eden1892 wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.

I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here?

On April 07 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
No seriously what's the point of you pushing on hf when he's trying to get information out of someone. So what the thread took a serious turn you just drew the conversation away from potential information into more joking.

I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point.

This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi.

On April 07 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:55 Damdred wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Serious turn? They were joking at each other. How can the "wambulance" gather useful information?
The most serious post here was about HF teasing obi. You disagree with this?


My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go


Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking.
You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why?


which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding


I asked what you think of what I said about HF teasing obi.

I don't understand what kind of information you were expecting from that discussion.

Also, if you think that HF was getting information out of obi and that obi took the chance to get out of the thread because I said HF is mafia, do you think obi is mafia?

This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could.


Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful.


I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument.

So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads?

You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne


Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before

you know he is calling you mafia the entire time right, Eden?


Anyway.

I don't believe GB is town. But maybe he is trying to solve the game. I don't know.


Best reason why I think GB is mafia ↓
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Game balance indicates that there is a scum vigi and look here:
On April 07 2015 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:
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On April 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.


more reads more knowledge more winning

why so sad?


Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long



Onegu, this case on me is original. His thought process is clear, his points are objective, his writing is fluid. He actually entered my filter and tried to uncover my alignment.
I was already pushed before? Yes. But not with this much effort and comprehension of overall gameplay. This is an original stance against me.
The rest of his filter after the second half of day1 is like this. His thought process is in the thread, he takes original stances and reacts accordingly to events, in a way it feels natural. He takes the effort to look through filters and is interested in uncover alignments.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 00:12 GMT
#1504
On April 10 2015 08:56 Holyflare wrote:
GB I CANT CONTINUE THE GAME WHEN I'M NOT HOME. THE GAME IS TEMPORARILY IRRELEVANT AND HAPPENED IN THE FIRST FUCKING HOURS OF THIS MAFIA GAME. PLEASE DO SOMETHING NOT THAT RELATED IN REGARDS TO ME. like seriously the game consists of 2 pages of my filter and then i said i had issues and had to afk and then i came back to constant phone posting and playing actual mafia.

People don't believe my palmar read. I didn't list you as mafia. It's clearly to make palmar and obi look more scummy and actually start looking at my reads with some weight behind it. The more you talk about the stupid game the more and more you drop. I don't think you're really actually reading the game.


I don't care if I drop and I've read the thread. After I disclosed your intentions you didn't use the assigned players in your game
to support any of your reads and THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

I still believe you're most likely town because you have the same scumreads as I. And you're being inconsistent but it was already proven that you have inconsistencies in your town games. But come on. Telling the vigi to yolo shoot me is in complete dissonance with your reads
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 00:55 GMT
#1514
.:Damdred is Mafia:.

On April 07 2015 22:48 Damdred wrote:
Lol weak you ask everyone what they think about me and you don even follow up showing past examples of how this could be my scum game like you normally do. Instead you vote one of the towniest looking people in the entire thread

of course I have reads but I don't bow to scum demands


Ridiculous excuse to not give reads. Town Damdred never hides reads. And he has pulled this bullshit before as Mafia.

On April 08 2015 06:52 Damdred wrote:
Theres a fw reasons I voted for GB, some of which was calling palmar mafia after town reading him and voting him over his top scum read at the time. His initial postings towards HF and obi felt weird and this is pretty well documented in my filter.

Ritoky is just a gut town read so far, hes pretty trolly and laid back which is a meta read.

But you dread I like your posts, like you just calling me out trying to get more reads I like that.


Read me as Mafia because I flipped my read on him when he KNOWS I DO THIS ALL THE TIME AS TOWN

On April 09 2015 06:42 Damdred wrote:
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On April 09 2015 06:24 Eden1892 wrote:
Meh Koshi I see what you're saying on GB, I don't want to talk about it anymore until GB comes back because I feel like if I keep defending my position and I'm wrong I end up covering for mafia and not making them work to be inno. I still believe in GB but I want to make him prove it himself since he suddenly disappeared.


I really hate this post, it totally is horrible.

Then Eden pushes me again


Says this post of Eden is bad when this is null indicative just to have something to call Eden scummy for. Fabricated.

On April 09 2015 11:09 Damdred wrote:
We should lynch GB.

while I have a small amount of distaste for meta sometimes when you have a lot of experience with peole it is valuable.

If you look at how GB calls me scum and votes me without pushing compare that to fanfic mafia where GB did that as well you can see a general sameness to it. GB as scum has a hard time coming up reasons to scum read people for, palmar did a game where GB honed in on robik and did sorts the same thing.

I know people say its weak but GB did interject himself into the obi hf starting of a shit fight and allowed it to go without us being able to gather anything from it, at the same time palmar is right about gbs motivation in saying what he did or lack of motivation.

GB lack of reads currently while just looking like he's doing something is also another scum thing he generally does, he vanished here, vanished in fanfic mafia. Besides me being scum really hard to determine where GB stands on things to a point.

Lynch GB with me people


Bolded is Damdred telling a lie since he knows I can bring very solid arguments to lynch people. Check mission Mafia and Titanic mafia VI.

On April 09 2015 13:12 Damdred wrote:
Seriously that's fucked up

I hope the big does shoot me so that next time you ask me to consolidate to give you your lynch I'll quote this and say fuck you again.


Complete overreaction considering he never actually strong townread dread as town. Fabricated.

On April 10 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
I know how to read GB RS, he is scum. Pretty sure Eden is scum in this case and I'm not sure about the third hf is bothering me here


And this is where Damdred is right. He knows my gameplay too well. So fucking well that it is impossible for him to misinterpret my posts in the way he is doing, and calling me scum for reasons he KNOWS doesn't make me scummy.
He calls me Mafia, palmar comes to his help, he follows up palmar with bad reasoning. He is just finding a purpose to get me lynched instead of actually trying to solve the game. Which means he is fighting for a mislynch and not actually thinking about the game.

He is Mafia.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 03:47 GMT
#1605
Damdy you make your case look like a vote count analysis when it's just narratives. A huge pile of fluff.

The effort you've put makes me wary because I know you're effortless as Mafia. The problem is that you put effort into deceiving people, making them believe you made a huge vote count analysis when you actually just post narratives.

I said once and I'll repeat: town Damdred knows me too well to call me Mafia for the reasons you called me Mafia for.

You have an idea of what my tells are. Where did you see them in this game?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 16:25 GMT
#1810
Can the Mafia team roleblock themselves?
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 16:28 GMT
#1813
On April 11 2015 01:26 Eden1892 wrote:
Theoretically but why would they?


To claim being roleblocked and gain towncred
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 16:30 GMT
#1815
On April 11 2015 01:27 Koshi wrote:
Mafia can:

rb themselves
not rb and claim they got rb
rb people that get town vigied and then claim the rb


Which can point out to Damdred's rb claim be fake
So the Mafia team can still have palmar and Damdred.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 16:31 GMT
#1817
On April 11 2015 01:29 Palmar wrote:
like how do you not know this GB? the mafia self roleblock has been around since the dawn of time.


I've hosted a game where Mafia couldn't roleblock themselves to skip a night kill.
It was with Amiko
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 16:37 GMT
#1820
On April 11 2015 01:32 Palmar wrote:
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On April 11 2015 01:31 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 11 2015 01:29 Palmar wrote:
like how do you not know this GB? the mafia self roleblock has been around since the dawn of time.


I've hosted a game where Mafia couldn't roleblock themselves to skip a night kill.
It was with Amiko

but even then they can just not roleblock and claim it?

It's completely irrelevant.


I'm not sure of how mechanics works under FF's games. I think it depends from host to host
Anyway, it's no use to discuss night kills. I've reached numerous scenarios in my mind and that will only serve for Mafia make town speculate on unreliable information.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 16:58 GMT
#1845
On April 11 2015 01:52 sicklucker wrote:
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On April 11 2015 01:47 Eden1892 wrote:
On April 11 2015 01:47 sicklucker wrote:
Palmer can be vigi. Dandred cant be vigi. Thats why im voting dandred

wat


Dandred raging about how he hopes hes not shot by the town veggie for playing bad.Hes never the veggie not even gonna quote the post its not important because im a powerole and im telling you so.


Not Damdred:
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[image loading]
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 17:03 GMT
#1847
Guys, again, you're working under the assumption that:

1) Town Vigi didn't hold his shot
2) Mafia Vigi didn't hold his shot
3) Shots weren't stacked on HF

Which means you are speculating under very unreliable information.

Find your town reads and tell people why someone is Mafia for their gameplay
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 17:07 GMT
#1851
On April 11 2015 02:05 Koshi wrote:
Ok what is next? yamato and ritoky?

Seriously?

fml


Koshi you're doing a very poor job narrowing possible blues to Mafia
If town vigi hold their shot, you're destroying a bullet
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 17:09 GMT
#1853
On April 11 2015 02:05 Palmar wrote:
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On April 11 2015 02:03 GlowingBear wrote:
Guys, again, you're working under the assumption that:

1) Town Vigi didn't hold his shot
2) Mafia Vigi didn't hold his shot
3) Shots weren't stacked on HF

Which means you are speculating under very unreliable information.

Find your town reads and tell people why someone is Mafia for their gameplay

You're mafia.


Because I've posted a bad joke page 1

Okay.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 17:11 GMT
#1855
On April 11 2015 02:09 Damdred wrote:
I stand by my earlier answer of not being vig.

I still think GB is scum the rb situation will resolve itself in the night


Lol

People, listen to me once:

Damdred is Mafia
Palmar is Mafia

Lynch them and help me find the third
Win the game
Profit
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
April 10 2015 17:21 GMT
#1861
On April 11 2015 02:13 Vivax wrote:
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On April 11 2015 02:11 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 11 2015 02:09 Damdred wrote:
I stand by my earlier answer of not being vig.

I still think GB is scum the rb situation will resolve itself in the night


Lol

People, listen to me once:

Damdred is Mafia
Palmar is Mafia

Lynch them and help me find the third
Win the game
Profit


I want you to analyze Damdred's massive vote analysis post or I might just 180 on my reads.

just like that


I've read his post. I think it was a huge effort. But not made by town, but by a Mafia afraid of getting shot. His vote count analysis isn't actually a vote count analysis, but mostly a narrative.

Like, seriously, Damdred CAN'T be town in this game. Simply can't.
I'm adorable.
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