EPTBut his scum read on Vivax is also underwhelming
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But his scum read on Vivax is also underwhelming | ||
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For shitty reasoning. You don't even try to push me to further analyse my alignment, you just come to the thread, say people are bad or that they are scum, then go back to your cover | ||
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On April 08 2015 11:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't understand why Hf's game is so necessary. I'm looking through it and a whole bunch of people have him as town because of it. Can someone explain what about that game makes him so towny? People are talking about it likes it's a big secret and I really don't get the point of it. He is most likely town for it. It can be discussed later. The biggest problem here is: why not joining it? | ||
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On April 08 2015 11:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No, it can be discussed now. The last time you told me he was town and I just took your word for it, I decided to shoot the mason instead of him. Why is he town? I've already told you, his plan doesn't follow Mafia agenda. I can't go further than this without ruining it. And in the game you shot the mason, I've called him Mafia all day long so, nah. | ||
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On April 08 2015 11:54 rsoultin wrote: yo gb, how long you gonna still be up? For two hours probably Why? | ||
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On April 08 2015 11:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You called him mafia on day 2, not on day 1. You were calling him town for no reason on day 1. Tbh I'd be perfectly fine plynching you if you won't explain your read. I cba dealing with this kind of thing. Do it then. I won't be ruining a good play just because you want or because you refuse to simply pick a team and let HF do his thing, then ignoring it an actually start trying to solve the game. | ||
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HF as Mafia would tease obi in order to guarantee a shitfest. He enters in an argument with obi, obi gets angry because HF is nitpicking him and gives up / start arguing with HF in an useless discussion, disorganising town. Check Hearthstone Mafia for a precedent. | ||
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On April 08 2015 13:12 Eden1892 wrote: you don't think town!HF would just fuck with him for a bit at game start though? I see where you're coming from but it doesn't really seem to have had the intended effect It was just a way I found to keep generating discussion. However, if he kept teasing obi, this would fit perfectly. The thing is that his game thing seems like a good plan to me and it hardly fits any Mafia agenda. That's why I'm willing to call him town for now. The game have yet to begin, though. | ||
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On April 08 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote: I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here? This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi. This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could. Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful. I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument. So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads? | ||
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On April 08 2015 13:39 Eden1892 wrote: You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before | ||
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Catching up | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:08 Holyflare wrote: And gb if that's your only question after everything I regret ever defending you. I'd pick the team with the most intelligent people on it. That's my only question for now as I am still catching up. Your answer was very dodgy. Pick a team now please | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:32 Onegu wrote: What team are you talking about? Can I be on the Cincinnati Reds? + Show Spoiler + Also why have none of you signed up for my game yet? It being balanced checked by DarthPunk, Foolishness, and GreyMist. With HtS asking questions to make sure I have all the answers. So no Balance excuses. I'm talking about the teams on his game. | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:41 Palmar wrote: @GB do you like my case on HF? I haven't read it yet | ||
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On April 10 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote: I know how to read GB RS, he is scum. Pretty sure Eden is scum in this case and I'm not sure about the third hf is bothering me here Damdy, you can read me well, but it doesn't matter if you're Mafia and wants to lynch me because you're afraid I can actually show people you're Mafia. You've been scumreading me since the beginning of the game, and that reveals you're scum. If you weren't, you would wait to actually get a better read out of me. But you prefer to call me scum without any solid basis. You, in the other hand, has plenty of your Mafia traits in the thread and I'll prove it soon | ||
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On April 10 2015 03:40 Holyflare wrote: Lol I'm not sure you understand the game correctly at all. I'd pick c and add vivax because he does science stuff. Well, it seems so. Then I'll disclose everything I thought it was. Let me get to my computer | ||
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On April 10 2015 04:01 Holyflare wrote: Inb4 gb thought my game was a colour coded myriad of imbedded reads meant to have scum reads at the lowest tier of teams and town reads at the top No, I thought you made 4 teams of 3 so 12 people should have to choose a team. As Mafia know their partners and they usually spread votes to distance themselves, this game would work this way (Mafia would spread themselves and you would have more instruments to analyse people). Aware Mafia would probably refuse to participate in the game to make difficult for you to uncover their alignment (and this is why I thought you had yamato and obi as scum - mainly obi, since he insisted that I should reveal the game's meaning in such way that this strategy wouldn't work anymore and he wouldn't have to care to not look bad for not joining in). Someone willing to spread Mafia so it would be easier to analyse people are following a strong town agenda. A Mafia wouldn't possibly do that without a plan and you posted the game in the very beginning of day1, which restricts the time you would have to plan this shit with your partners. Hence my townread on you. But now that you revealed this wasn't your intention, it all falls apart. | ||
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On April 10 2015 04:19 Holyflare wrote: But i did scum read obi and yamato for not joining and that was part of it because you know... I clearly already wrote that. Comment on not me/game plz. It doesn't matter, I thought this was your plan before you disclosed your reads, that's why I was so bold asking people to join it You didn't reveal your intention but by being dodgy on not choosing a team shows that my idea WASN'T your intention. Commenting on other things: I think the scum team is palmar/Damdred/Eden Palmar tried to get me lynched over poor arguments. His pushes weren't pushes that tried to uncover my alignment. He just used an early post and pointed fingers at me. His questions were mostly rethorical. He didn't actively tried to evaluate my overall gameplay by navigating my filter. This is a Mafia trying to look like and aggressive townie. More than that, he came just after I was suspecting Damdred, in a poor way to discredit my pushes on him. Damdred has his Mafia meta all over. Passive, disinterested, distorting facts, wishy washy. He knows my fameplay very well, he didn't have any evidence of one of my metas to start calling me Mafia so soon. He has the same stance as palmar: calls me Mafia but doesn't try to uncover my alignment. Doesn't ask me direct questions. He simply calls me Mafia and there's that. More than this, Damdred KNOWS I 180 as town A LOT but scumreads me for that. This single fact already shows that Damdred is certainly Mafia. Eden is more like unflipped association, I admit. Palmar having double standards on my entrance an his is very indicative. Why was he ignoring Eden when he mostly did the same as me? With that, there is damdred faintly pushing Eden, but never actually trying to get him lynched. Damdred's vote stayed on me. Never on Eden. This "I would lynch GB or Eden but I prefer GB" is bullshit. Added to that, Eden's overall gameplay is uninspiring and his first list post reveals a complete apathy to the game. His weirdest townread was on palmar, that basically said "I haven't read him but he seems to be doing stuff". This is a very fabricated townread out of no good reason. He doesn't read me and call me null. Why? His reads only got more substance after he was being called out, which is exactly what I would expect Mafia to do. Now, I find obi suspicious for trying to get me revealing HF's game. It felt like he understood the purpose and was trying to get me talking so he could get away from not joining in. His insistence was just unnatural and his focus on only talking about it felt like he didn't care to give more information from him. Vivax has been very uninspiring too and he has an okay shot on being Mafia. I have yet to read his filter to form a solid read though. Koshi looks town to me now. Yes, he made a flawed case on me, but he actually tried to uncover my alignment by filter diving me and getting more information from what I post, which is townie. It reveals effort. His reads also feels original. RSoultin looks town because she is actively posting and is inquisitive. She looks like she is actually trying to solve the game. The only down point is that she isn't taking strong stances. Like her attitude on "ok, we are lunching gb. Why?". If I am her obvious town read I would expect a stronger stance here. HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better. | ||
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