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On April 12 2015 07:49 sicklucker wrote: Na im cool with it. Palmers like always the veg here. If someone didnt claim veg with all the shit going on we blame them postgame you sure? hasn't he claimed and unclaimed like 3 times already? I mean I like his case, but I don't put much merit in his vigi claim. | ||
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On April 12 2015 07:52 sicklucker wrote: so he tried to not get caught with his pants down on a town? Thats like a level 1 mafia tell. It makes him less likely to be with gb tho is that who the votes went on? there was disagreement...I know me and yamato voted on eden, but were okay with GB. HF wanted vivax or someone else who I forget for a shennanie. both parties thought the other were stupid and nothing happened. don't quote me on this, just out of memory. | ||
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i am town still. fuck you SL is the first thing i want to say. i sat there and asked if there was going to be a switch to GB since he was my primary lynch target, 3 people told me no. i leave and you lynch him and blame me. fuck you first and foremost. also GB spewed me town like no other, so i am basically confirmed now. damdred switching his read on me based on thread sentiment and activity vs what he actually reads me on above is suspect; but w/e i would probably scum read me for basically not playing for 72 hours. anywayz, next phase the mafia is going to push a low hanging fruit ML on me, and when it comes to that i will shit town rainbows like i have been doing all game and we will lynch mafia instead of me. back to life getting in the way of everything. ciao | ||
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hey ritoky, it seems like you really didn't want to lynch gb? naw i did, i like palmar's case on day 1, but it turned out to not be a viable lynch option, so i couldn't vote on it. i liked it again on day 2, i didn't really read much else of day 2; i asked the guy who was an uncc'd PR if that switch was happening, he said no and asked me to vote on yamato. so i voted on yamato. the case was okay on yamato, made him from a town read of mine to a coin flip, but at that point having not read nearly any of the phase; i just went with really the only alternative case provided to me in the thread that was worth a damn. hey ritoky, your reads look weird, what's up with that? get in line, people been saying that about me since i started playing on TL. i have an unorthodox way of reading people that is highly effective (outside of statistics and vote logic), meh some have gotten used to it. to quote rsoultin though "i have found that when ritoky makes sense you should lynch him". trust the woman, i make tons of sense as mafia cuz i actually order and think about shit before i type. hey ritoky, who is mafia? fuck if i know, i haven't read that much. i know i didn't like vivax too much during the part of the game i was reading and i felt that obi was trying to ride the middle; but that was a long time ago. shit coulda changed. in reality i am probably just going to sheep confirmed/semi-confirmed town on a good case because frankly their reads are more informed than mine. any other questions? also, gb spewed the shit out of me. | ||
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i liked the part about vivax's case where he started talking about yamato TRing people for right reads and MRing people for wrong reads. it made me begin to rethink if i liked him because of his play or if i just liked him because he had been town reading me since i made a gut read on him. i mean usually mafia want to keep people who agree with them/don't want to lynch them soon in the game right? makes some sense. i will go find your vote post. comment on it soon. | ||
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On April 14 2015 06:42 Koshi wrote: Why did GB spew you town? On April 12 2015 08:39 GlowingBear wrote: Ritoky came to the thread couple of times day one and influenced the thread direction. He is also too careless, trolling hard, drawing attention this way, which doesn't fit Mafia mindset of survival. Add to that the townreads on him by confirmed town. Obi, in the other hand, has no thread influence, wishy washy reads, passiveness and wasted the whole day1 dissing HF without making anything out of it. We also have the HF's game thing. So yes, I prefer a lynch on obi. + Show Spoiler + I also promised HF I would sheep him last game we played together and I'm doing it now since I now know he is town XD On April 12 2015 09:34 GlowingBear wrote: 1) Giving random reads and saying someone is town right when a suspicion is cast is a form to shut discussion down. All you have done this game is this, giving reads and peacing out. 2) You have me and Ritoky but you do NOTHING to have your scumreads lynched. Too much passivity. You're not trying to convince anyone to vote one of us. This is having reads but not having targets. 3) Scum weird, I've explained it before. Sounded like you wanted me to spoil the game so you wouldn't look bad for not joining in. Spoiling the game was anti town agenda. there is GB spewing me town. absolutely no reason to hard defend me. this read comes from nowhere. i don't even remember him saying a single word about me day 1, and i say i want to lynch him and he says i am town. i think he thought i would get vigi shot in the night and he wanted the credit of a right read if he survived the day. but that's kinda wifom. | ||
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On April 14 2015 06:43 Koshi wrote: + Who is mafia ritoky? i answered this above, i honestly don't know cuz i haven't read enough. maybe that opinion will change after i read damdred's post here in a second. | ||
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On April 14 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote: I want to dwelve deeper into the Yamato vote. And some other things. You voted one of your top town reads because Vivax had an ok case. Limited time or not you usually make your mind up on your own and go your own way at points. The Yamato lynch was already pretty sealed if obi and I hadn't of jumped ship. What about the case brought him to a coin flip enough to not try to push GB at least a bit more than asking I believe it was SL where you should go? Also I want you to read my post and at least pay attention to the vote movement part I talked about and give opinions about that. I read your vote logic and it is hard to think anything of it if I am being really honest. Your premise for everything that follows is: ritoky is mafia with GB. The majority of your following content is predicated on who could be partners with us and TRing people who lynched mafia. I can get behind the TRing those who lynched mafia part. But the association is flawed because I am town, and thus 75% of your post is invalid. Here's the thing about it too, you're giving me way too much credit in that post. You act like I was aware of who was voting on who, what was happening in the thread, and that jazz. I wasn't. I came in, asked for cases on who was mafia. Asked the uncc'd PR if we could go on GB, he told me no, vote yamato. I trusted the uncc'd PR since what he pointed to me wasn't bad. No one else tried to sway me, provide a case for me to sheep, or anything. In fact a couple people posted in the thread while I was here and just ignored me. Basically my thought process was the following: well this guy is town, the case he pointed me to isn't the best but it isn't bad, okay fuck it vote with the confirmed town cuz I don't got time for alternatives at this point. | ||
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On April 14 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote: Ok, but what about the parts where GB moved his vote hammering himself at that point. i mean it puts vivax on exactly scum RB as a role, which is an ambitious claim for a couple reasons: 1) does mafia really think that would go unnoticed? 2) is GB really a team player over a selfish mafia player? 3) does the mafia think they can push a lynch on someone other than vivax if it is uncovered? to answer my own questions, the mafia team is probably not stupid enough to make such a blatant play, GB doesn't strike me as the kinda player to save his teammates over himself, and look who every1 is trying to lynch. i don't really know what the point of what i just typed is, but w/e it is what i thought when i read it. | ||
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Vivax (1) - DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2)[/blue - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (7) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, Rsoultin, here's my analysis on the day 1 vote damdred. on average when a town is lynched on day 1, 52.4% of the mafia votes on the wagon. over half of the people who voted to lynch DR on day 1 have been flipped and every single one of them has flipped blue or town. there is likely no way that there isn't a mafia on the DR train, if not both. this means that there is guaranteed 1 mafia between koshi, vivax, and obi, with the potential of 2 mafia there. let us now assume that it is the case where 1 is inside the vote and the other is outside the vote: the unflipped/nonclaimed players outside the vote are ritoky (conf town), yamato, and damdred. damdred literally tried to lynch mafia all game and lynched mafia, so that leaves me with yamato. so it is either 2 of koshi, vivax, and obi. or 1 of koshi, viviax, obi + yamato. those are the only 2 worlds that exist from the day 1 vote count. if i bring in to account the day 2 vote count, let us see what it adds to spice up my life. ![[image loading]](http://www.foreverspice.com/spicediscography/suyl-ukcd1.jpg) On April 12 2015 12:36 Hapahauli wrote: Let me count the votes: Koshi (1) - Koshi Vivax (1) - Yamato77 Damdred (0) - Eden (0) - Palmar (0) - GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Ritoky (1) - Sicklucker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky ObiWanShinobi (2) - Eden, GlowingBear [blue] until deadline. Currently GlowingBear is set to be lynched. dunno if this is the perfect vote count, but what can we know from it; our potential mafia coming into this vote are yamato, koshi, obi, and vivax. no need to color people at this point, just look at those 4 names. obi lynches mafia, albeit somewhat incidentally it seems. his town cred is low apparently going into this, so maybe he puts a vote on his partner to try and buy some cred going forward. regardless he gets + town points for lynching mafia out of this group. koshi self votes, w/e. vivax makes a case on yamato and yamato is the leading candidate for the majority of the day until the wagon disperses for reasons i never bothered to read. this makes a vivax + yamato world less likely. yamato plants a stray vote on vivax making the world that was formerly less likely more likely, and back to meh...but i still think it is least likely. since on contentious and spread out votes like this (often times an easy way to catch mafia on day 1s of games) a common tactic is to plop a stray vote on your teammate that gets no traction. essentially day 2 doesn't do much to modify the day 1 vote outside of make obi a little less likely mafia, and kinda eliminate a yamato + vivax team although not really. if there's a way to 100% clear yamato we can PoE win the game imo. otherwise it is best to think about if we want to live in the world of 2 within koshi, vivax, and obi or if we want to lynch yamato cuz if there is 1 inside of koshi, vivax, and obi then yamato is 100% the partner. | ||
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Vivax (1) - DreadReturn GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar, Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky, Damdred (1) - GlowingBear, DreadReturn (7) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892, Rsoultin, EBWOP fixed coloring from above that got fucked up | ||
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i suggest people look into reasons why koshi, vivax, and obi voted on DR day 1 and why yamato decided to bail. maybe it is because i didn't read day 2 in the slightest, but the day 1 vote and lynch seems way more indicative than day 2 did. every1 should probably determine a firm stance on yamato's alignment because unless you think he is lock town we should probably lynch him, and then consider the most likely worlds of 2 amongst koshi, vivax, and obi. that is what i will be considering while i am away and when i come back, i hope the thread does the same. | ||
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On April 14 2015 07:43 Damdred wrote: Koshi (1) - Koshi Vivax (1) - Yamato77, GlowingBear, Eden GlowingBear (3) - Palmar, Damdred, ObiWanShinobi, Ritoky (1) - Sicklucker Yamato77 (2) - Vivax, ritoky ObiWanShinobi This is what the vote looks like before Eden and GB move onto obi. Does it change anything? Also your reads aren't that concrete at all i'm not sure if you actually called anyone scum in there besides hypotheticals bleh, i dunno...why wasn't this anywhere to be found in the thread/voting thread  i will consider it when i come back soon.as of now i am in the world of yamato + 1 rather than 2 among the 3 and think we should probably lynch yamato. i kinda tried to look for reasons as to why the lynch on yamato dispersed and couldn't find a good one. i recognized that this happens to me a lot when i am mafia. there is a lynch that really should go on me and for no good reason i get it to stall out and delay another day. it just seems really similar to what i did in guardians and multiple other games, how the lynch on me just kept magically evaporating and landing on others for unexplained reasons. for the +1....my gut tells me obi because he seemed to have stumbled into lynching his partner and he is really pushing the low hanging fruit lynch on me. but that isn't informed by a filter dive yet. hopefully i can do that tonight. | ||
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so what, i don't have firm scum reads; i haven't read nearly half of the game. keep on pushing that low hanging fruit. | ||
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i have no motivation to try and solve a game in which i do every town tell, am so utterly town it is painful for myself, and get 100% scum read by every single person in the game for activity reasons and because it is an easy lynch. literal 0 people are defending me, what you think that means? are you guys seriously this dense? | ||
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