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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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April 09 2015 16:52 GMT
#1406
Just got to be patient btw you always think I'm scum rs
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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April 09 2015 23:12 GMT
#1493
I'm high as hell right now, who knew the steroids and other medicine would cause you to feel this way but I'm awake.

I'll be here roughly until eon if anyone has any questions I'll try to get my analysis done by then.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 09 2015 23:52 GMT
#1498
Just read it.

Personally I don't think your answer particularly on Eden holds merit particularly well for starters. For example my opening Scum read as has been previously stated started with the fact that he opened quite badly and did very little if anything to,change that while I was here, I leave come,back it doesn't change the fact the way Eden opened the game was bad or scummy in itself.

Nor do I harp or continue saying Eden isn't doing anything at all in fact I do the inverse and call to attention a post that I really hate and explain why the read he gives in me doesn't make sense compared to what he said earlier. You are saying that my reads are stuck in time when that's just not the case at all and it is a clear misconstrued of what I said.

Part of the next part is damned if I do for instance I remember I think it was void or horns I was Scum read for trying to interact with things that were to old in the thread here I'm Scum read partially for not interacting with people when I'm trying to get my target pushed when I'm here. I also interacted with a couple of people outside of eod so not sure this is completely factual.

GB is scummy he hides in Alf land as Scum you know this and were Scum when he does this before. IDK how else to say it my points are solid meh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
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April 10 2015 02:14 GMT
#1555
Please give me about 30 more minutes i'm really almost done with my analysis its hard to keep focused right now really want to talk it out afterwards so I can give updated thoughts nearer eod with some other ideas from others jic i'm shot by town vig.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 02:49 GMT
#1563
Damdreds Analysis Of People In Case he gets Shot during the night by Town Vig for being Bad: (sorry townies)

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
Palmar (0) -
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Rsoultin (0) -
ObiWanShinobi (0) -
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Koshi (0) -
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
Yamato77 (0) -
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

0m 0s until deadline. Currently DreadReturn is set to be lynched.

The first thing that i'm doing here is coloring in the confirmed town DreadReturn as green as he flipped.

I am also going to color myself green because I am confirmed to myself even if my play has been spotty at points due to being out so much which I apologize for especially if vig shoots me tonight.

Now to the heart of the matter

Damdreds Analysis Of People In Case he gets Shot during the night by Town Vig for being Bad: (sorry townies)

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
Palmar (0) -
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Rsoultin (0) -
ObiWanShinobi (0) -
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Koshi (0) -
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
Yamato77 (0) -
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

My first green marks are Ritoky, Palmar and Yamato. They are my strongest town reads at this point in time going forward,

Ritoky is partially a soul read/meta read. If you compare this game to Guardians of the Galaxy when he replaced in or Mafia Down Under you can see a sharp contrast, also you can look at Imperial Mafia or Season of a witch. It is a vast difference if you compare the games you see a stark contrast between the scum games and this game. He actually has good thoughts here for instance even though he was wrong on DR he picked out a great observation on that question he asked me and how it just didn't flow well with the posts.

Compared to his scum game he really is missing the super angry list post and how serious he is as scum. Really strongly town read Ritoky.

Palmar is really strong this game, he opened the game up and it reminded me of Horns of Africa where he sees something he thinks is scummy and goes after it quickly and hard. he is trying to push the thread towards what I consider to be a good place especially early when the game is still forming and its inbetween the serious and the silly and gives us something to actually talk about in this situation in GB.

He really pushed his ideas forward in the thread and I like the direction hes going, his tone is good to me also and hes constantly re-evaluating his reads.

Yamato is putting forward some of the best effort I've seen him put into the game in a long time. The case on DR even though it was wrong it felt really sincere and well thought out. He asked good questions and when people started pushing other candidates (namely myself and obi when he sheeped) Yamato kept calling attention to his case and specifically asked us both to answer him.

When obi answered yamato specifically quoted the part of the case he wanted to talk about I believe and really wanted an answer. And going into the lynch near the end he wanted to jump off DR and lynch someone else he didn't want to go on someone he thought was an easy mislynch but someone he felt could be really scummy. Just because of effort and the way he went about the day left me thinking he was really towny.

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

Rsoultin I wasn't totally sure of early on just because i'm horrible about reading her. Rsoultin does really stick to her guns though in the thread to my eyes going towards end of day she really wanted his top two lynches to get attention and potentially get lynched and she showed an extreme wiliness to consolidate and not just afk and leave her vote fuck all near eod and reading through the only reason his vote is on Vivax is because shenanigans were possible at that point, she refused to vote GB and seemed to have doubts about DR at the time.

I really dont' want to spend a ton of time on GB because I've talked a lot about him during the rest of the thread. Look in his other mafia games and compare then look at what I said and see if I have any points about whats going on, even if you think its way weak just see if I have points. I think GB is really scummy still to me his reads really don't have much going on.


Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

ObiwanShinobi is a scum lean for me currently. I went into the night thinking that Obi was a town read for me because of his tone early on in the game and his wiliness to call my points on GB good. I have a really soft spot for people who call my posts good I suppose. however when I looked through his filter this post really caught my eye and sounds really superficial and fake to me

On April 09 2015 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Should have stuck to the GB vote honestly.


It just strikes me as weird because he seemed so sure and his quick jump off GB really strikes me as weird in this situation. Also a loto f his posts read antagonistic towards HF and others to a point. Early in the thread when he also got the chance he decided to afk and leave the thread instead of getting involved in the early talk which I know has been asked to me earlier and I think its scummy in retrospect.

Pretty sure obis a bit more than a scum lean.

I actually like Koshi this game, he seems to have a direction in his postings in my mind. Hes also revisiting his reads and explaining them, he pushes his thoughts and pushes people to answer his question specifically towards vivax at points. His cases really feel sincere and his tone is really good and towny. I'm really sold on him being town.


Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

This will possibly be my most controversial read and I've read his filter three times almost. I went into the night/analysis phase thinking that HF was scum, however some things really changed my mind when I read his filter. He really pushes his own ideas during the night phase and tries to find answers to questions and figure out peoples reads going forward.

Look at how he addresses me about my read on Edn trying to figure out where I am and trying to find out if my read is scummy and not changing or if I have a legitimate way. Though I still think the lynch on DR and HF lack of care especially at the end was concerning ive seen it before he has really good follow through and his response to being tunneled pushed I feel has been pretty good.

Eden I am scum reading currently but I have some misgivings on another read through. Eden has his town anger going on that I generally pick up on and town read him for but there are some things that still really bother me.

These things that bother me are the way that he came into the game and the way that his read develops on me for instance it bothered me, and his post on GB still reads sort of waffly to me.

He does push what he thinks though and revisits his read on me and looks at it so honesty a bit of it is omgus granted and his revisit does ignore that i'm asking GB to show the question i'm avoiding which he doesn't take into account.

Eden is probably the person i'm most wrong about at this time if i'm wrong. I sort of feel like i'm looking through a clouded view of Eden because of his scum read on me, I've never seen him this angry as scum when I confronted him early in the game.

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

Onegu- I am pretty null on Onegu right now, his list posts are kind of meh and he doesn't feel connected sometimes in the game. But i'm nto sure that makes him scum.

Vivax- Originally going into near EoD I didn't see why Vivax looked so bad, DR pointed some things out to me when I asked about it and I reread his filter recently. If you compare it to Vivax recent town games its missing a lot of thoughts and explanations to a point, usually he has a lot more thoughts in what he posts. Look in guardians of the galaxy he pushes his thoughts and gives good explanations even if some of the theories don't pan out or ideas are wrong he still has them and shows them in the thread.

I don't see that as much this game, he says something gives a really short explanation why maybe just a sentence and I don't feel the push or drive to get what he thinks into the thread or into the spotlight.

Currently I have four scum reads/leans in Eden, Obiwan, Vivax and GB. Obviously one of these has to be wrong also I think its highly unlikely that we had three scum up for lynch at the same time. I'm sort of feeling like i'm the most wrong about Eden currently, so that leaves me in a world of GB, Vivax and Obiwan.

I sort of like this team as GBs initial push on HF got obiwan the ability to escape the thread and vivax sudden appearance at eod right as he was being discussed. Plus his lack of anything during the night, DR said some really good things about him also.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 02:49 GMT
#1564
that took al ot longer than I thought it would.

any thoughts about it? questions?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:03 GMT
#1571
So in my list HF I have Vivax, Obiwan and GB as my final triad. Who would you take out and put Palmar in for in that situation?

I'm not sure that i'm wrong necessarily it reminded me a lot of Horns when he went after GB like he did, and when he went after you thinking town v town it looks a lot like how he went against Marv at points in XXX to me. I can see town Palmar doing this.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:04 GMT
#1573
On April 10 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
(i do not remember this horn palmar at all. i remember him basically announcing he wasn't going to read, sheeping marv, claiming mafia and trolololing to the point that when we nkd him people were like o.0 wtf?)


Maybe i'm thinking of the wrong game, Eden claimed Miller d1 early to draw out the real miller (marv) and I reacted weirdly to him and questioned his claim rescinded and Palmar pushed me until I was almost lynched d1 then I was mod killed so idk what palmar did after that
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:04 GMT
#1574
still an hour to go
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:05 GMT
#1575
On April 10 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 07:45 Koshi wrote:
So I am moving to gb. First of all because the vigi is obly balanced if it is on mafia side. So if he is town vigi we are doing the set up a favor
Second of all. I like my case on gb. It are a couple too many bad townie moments. And they are not the bad townie moments a towie has trying to solve the game.

DR is still very mafia for me. and somewhere it hurts lynching biggest filter who is 20 hours afk
.
. But fuck it. Celebrity lynch bitches!


lol ^ shit tier reason to townread koshi to the end of time xP

he was soooo certain there was only a mafia vig he argued back and forth about it...i remember facepalming half a dozen times doing it

(this is for you onegu; i know most people aren't questioning koshi's alignment)

also, rereading damdy's filter (before his voting analysis) started getting the feeling that even though i rarely see him tunnel, he really was pushing that gb lynch pretty strongly at EoD

ppl started getting cold feet on dr and he demanded a switch to gb, then seemed to get pissed when ppl wanted to go other directions

then the analysis wasn't terribad :/

might upgrade you to a townlean damdy, cause i can believe the sick could be hampering your play

i expect proof on your gb metareads, though


Yea I'll find examples from the games or do you want links to check out the filter yourself
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:21 GMT
#1592
I'm not sure I get exactly what you are saying about gbs postings being all that much better. GB case on me does look ok in that regard, but his other reads feel a hit meh to me and that super long absense still really rubs me the wrong way.

Idk hf I could see town palmar saying that and believing that about you.

Ok rsoultin give me just a little bit to pull it together, for reference game names are Arnie got a gun and fan fiction mafia for how he likes to afk and attack townies for meh reasoning and just tunnel. That is if you want to go look before I can get back on laptop
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:22 GMT
#1593
On April 10 2015 12:19 Holyflare wrote:
If you're going to talk about palmar tunnel at least reference the flip side in guardians where he tunneled on toads "guyses" for ever and eternity.


Actually yea this part is true but that was mafia on mafia as well
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:36 GMT
#1597
Rsoultin when you have time will you tell me why you have Yamato so low?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:54 GMT
#1608
O-o idk how you can call my reads narratives... A narrative is a story or a sequence of events when I don't think I'm doing that at all.

Like what? I'm so confused...

Your afk with saying you will give reads but then dissapear is a scum tell.

I made another post about what you were doing at eod if you have read my filter you would of seen it
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:59 GMT
#1610
I thought he was, one thing that I was thinking about when I was writing about him was how he approached reading me for example I went from super town to townish and then down into his scum oits. And it felt sincere and the way town palmar would try to read it.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 04:20 GMT
#1628
Obi why does dead townies make palmar look better?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 04:22 GMT
#1633
Oh bah I totally misread I must need sleep.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 04:31 GMT
#1641
Can you explain what you mean a bit more to me obi before I sleep.

Also idk if jk was being offensive or if was scum but was rb during the night
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 04:38 GMT
#1647
Oh ok I understand now the last sentence was throwing me a bit.

Yes that is true palmar doesn't normally hardbus like that, but at the same time what about what hf pointed out about guardians and him and toad double bussing in that situation?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 04:50 GMT
#1654
I am not town vigi
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