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On April 08 2015 14:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 14:04 Vivax wrote:
Yamato is one of the most demotivated mafias on this forum, that's why. xP and he specifically promised to try this game as either alignment in the same teamspeak session holyflare was referencing earlier more to the point, all he's done is called a few posts horrible and bitch. are you telling me that's his towngame? cause if so I want some proof, please and thank you
You have to prove why he's scum if you think he's scum, instead of asking everybody townreading him to prove otherwise.
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I'll give my opinion on this post:
On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia
If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them.
Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.
So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water
Palmar's point is exactly that he didn't interfere. He just idly complained without jumping into the breach, GB says he was interfering.
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On April 07 2015 22:05 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 21:53 Palmar wrote:
Like that's the entire reason I'm voting you. I believe you posted without saying anything. Interjected yourself into a discussion without adding anything.
I think the above are mafia traits. Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote:
You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf... Are you Mafia with Damdy?
On April 07 2015 22:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear
I might be voting for a townie now. But seriously...
On April 08 2015 03:35 Koshi wrote:
Vivax: He is off.
Holyflare: I don't think I had a real reason.
GB: What Palmar said.
On April 07 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 19:33 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Damdred pretty hard on GB with his reasoning. Not sure if legit, he chose the worst possible explanation for GB complaining about HF vs Obi.
As if HF asking for an Obi wambulance was oh so informative lol. The point is not whether or not what they were doing was productive. The question is whether GB was doing anything useful at all. Define useful in a wambulance and random gif setting. + Show Spoiler +Okay clearly you're being affected by a small head syndrome. HF and Obi were having a shitfest. I'm not arguing that. When this happens there are a few options open to a player not involved. Some of them are useful, some are useless. Here's a few options GB could have taken. GB could have: - Ignored it and walked away
- Tried to put a stop to it
- Tried to change the subject to something more entertaining or useful
- Joined in on the fun
- Idly complained about it without trying to stop it or change the subject
- Tried to glean some information from it
You'll notice that he did actually take one of the options. The problem I have is that is by fare the worst option available. By his own admission he wasn't trying to stop them, so what was he trying to achieve? He wasn't being funny, he wasn't being sociable, he wasn't trying to bring up a new subject, he wasn't scumhunting or trying to poke people further. Why did GB post?
Palmar said that at April 07 2015 19:39
So Koshi isn't evaluating my behaviour in regards to GB and Palmar. That I asked Palmar to go into his scumreads, that I discussed it with him, that I accepted his reasoning on GB ultimately. But this isn't even my best point.
The most scummy thing here is that he only seems to scumread GB when I point out that he called Palmar town on the previous page, and yet gives Palmar's case as reason to scumread GB later on.
In that case there was no reason for him to say "I might be voting for a townie", cause apparently he already agreed with what Palmar said.
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So you never even believed what Palmar said when you justified your GB scumread, you only vaguely remembered he said something smart. Lol ok.
Posting a defense of yourself doesn't make me mafia, so that tl dr is displaced.
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You're just imitating your town meta of tunneling me in every game I'm town.
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On April 08 2015 15:27 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 22:05 GlowingBear wrote:On April 07 2015 21:53 Palmar wrote:
Like that's the entire reason I'm voting you. I believe you posted without saying anything. Interjected yourself into a discussion without adding anything.
I think the above are mafia traits. On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote:
You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf... Are you Mafia with Damdy? Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 22:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear
I might be voting for a townie now. But seriously... Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 03:35 Koshi wrote:
Vivax: He is off.
Holyflare: I don't think I had a real reason.
GB: What Palmar said. Show nested quote +On April 07 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 19:33 Vivax wrote:On April 07 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:On April 07 2015 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Damdred pretty hard on GB with his reasoning. Not sure if legit, he chose the worst possible explanation for GB complaining about HF vs Obi.
As if HF asking for an Obi wambulance was oh so informative lol. The point is not whether or not what they were doing was productive. The question is whether GB was doing anything useful at all. Define useful in a wambulance and random gif setting. + Show Spoiler +Okay clearly you're being affected by a small head syndrome. HF and Obi were having a shitfest. I'm not arguing that. When this happens there are a few options open to a player not involved. Some of them are useful, some are useless. Here's a few options GB could have taken. GB could have: - Ignored it and walked away
- Tried to put a stop to it
- Tried to change the subject to something more entertaining or useful
- Joined in on the fun
- Idly complained about it without trying to stop it or change the subject
- Tried to glean some information from it
You'll notice that he did actually take one of the options. The problem I have is that is by fare the worst option available. By his own admission he wasn't trying to stop them, so what was he trying to achieve? He wasn't being funny, he wasn't being sociable, he wasn't trying to bring up a new subject, he wasn't scumhunting or trying to poke people further. Why did GB post? Palmar said that at April 07 2015 19:39So Koshi isn't evaluating my behaviour in regards to GB and Palmar. That I asked Palmar to go into his scumreads, that I discussed it with him, that I accepted his reasoning on GB ultimately. But this isn't even my best point. The most scummy thing here is that he only seems to scumread GB when I point out that he called Palmar town on the previous page, and yet gives Palmar's case as reason to scumread GB later on. In that case there was no reason for him to say "I might be voting for a townie", cause apparently he already agreed with what Palmar said.
Read this from Koshi. It's BS.
1) He only votes when I point out that GB derped on his read.
2) After he voted he said he scumread GB cause Palmar case. Obviously a lie.
3) Replies he just voted cause Palmar said something smart.
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Count me in on the lynch DR club.
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Didn't understand shit of how the stuff Palmar said makes GB mafia, I'm moving to DR.
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List time? List time.
Town pile:
Eden - Progression from scumreading me for calling his post out without voting to townreading me for mindmeld seems legit
Yamato - He doesn't actually suck
Town on probation:
Ritoky - Pointing out DR's softball. Good point. The only issue remaining is that he says "Damdred probably not mafia but if mafia mafia with DR". Still that's the only good thing I saw from him, rest is annoying picture spam, also kinda weird he points that out without scumreading either of them (or does he, need an answer?)
Meh pile:
GB - Palmar had a point with him staying on the sidelines in the Obi vs HF matter. His argument that he has to be scum with one of them to be scum doesn't hold water. But Palmars last post on him with all the believing shit sounds like Palmar made something massive about something he could have said in a single line, and I don't see that being the scummiest post in the thread.
Palmar - Back into meh pile for the confusing post nobody understands. I have seen such a post on marv in a game a while ago. Palmar wasn't mafia but he also wasn't right. So you become meh.
Noobs who tunnel me until I read them as scum for some reason cause they annoy the hell out of me (I want to believe he's scum for being so annoying): Koshi
Close to going to scum hell
Damdred - calls out GB but doesn't discuss Palmar's points on GB. Prefers to point out his boner for being townread by him instead. Reads feel superficial.
Scummy:
Obi - Should scumread HF but says he doesn't know who else to vote besides Eden. I see no townie reason for holding back here.
+ Show Spoiler +On April 07 2015 14:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:How? He hasn't even done anything yet. @Rso: I have played a large number of games with Hf and I have never once seen him do this as town. On April 08 2015 00:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Eden is probably mafia just because of his complete lack of energy.
Dnu who else I'd vote.
Dread Return - Feels like he only commented on one thing in a tryhard fashion simply cause it was the thing most people seemed to pay attention to. Question to Damdred seemed disconnected but he justified it in a believable way. The issue remains that he only paid attention to that one matter which is a scum trait in my opinion. Also doesn't want to give a read on Palmar in the process of arguing that he misconstrued GB.
rsoultin: Question spam, mafia trait. Her only scumreads are me and yamato. 99 % town. The 99 % is yamato. Onegu and HF townread for no reason.
Wtf? Vig pls don't wanna read
HF
Onegu
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Ok I think now I get it Palmar. You need to work on your paraphrasing:
P: Don't believe you tried to be funny.
G: But ritoky was trying to be funny too!
P: You weren't trying to be funny.
G: Do you or do you not believe. (-> irrelevant)
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I just think that whenever you use the word "believe" in a case it becomes incomprehensible gibberish.
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Where does he use exactly that argument to say you're mafia.
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Cool so you scumread me before having these reasons. Pretty fucking awful Koshi, like every time you push me.
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Your tunnels are reaching legendary level. So nobody should take them seriously. Don't make me dig up every game you tunneled me and I was town.
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On April 08 2015 22:09 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 14:44 DreadReturn wrote:
Yes, I asked a "seemingly easy" question to Damdred.
1) The guy who initially responded to GB's post.
2) From which Palmar started his GB campaign.
3) From which there is currently a wagon on someone we definitely shouldn't be lynching today.
Carry on. Can somebody explain me this? DR is saying he shouldn't get flak for his "disconnected" question because it spawned discussion? What happens in 1) ? What happened in 2) ? Who and what is 3) ? And why does 1 to 3 make DR a town hero?
You ask all the wrong questions.
The right question is what DR would achieve from getting a random townread from Damdred.
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As ritoky pointed out it's a really soft question that doesn't put any pressure whatsoever on Damdred.
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On April 08 2015 22:18 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 22:16 Vivax wrote:On April 08 2015 22:09 Koshi wrote:On April 08 2015 14:44 DreadReturn wrote:
Yes, I asked a "seemingly easy" question to Damdred.
1) The guy who initially responded to GB's post.
2) From which Palmar started his GB campaign.
3) From which there is currently a wagon on someone we definitely shouldn't be lynching today.
Carry on. Can somebody explain me this? DR is saying he shouldn't get flak for his "disconnected" question because it spawned discussion? What happens in 1) ? What happened in 2) ? Who and what is 3) ? And why does 1 to 3 make DR a town hero? You ask all the wrong questions. The right question is what DR would achieve from getting a random townread from Damdred. Is that what DR is saying here? He points out that as mafia he doesn't get anything from getting a random townread from Damdred?
He talks about Damdred as if he's a VIP in the GB stuff as justification for asking that question. So he explains the "who", not the "why"
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