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basically what i have determined is that people think i am mafia because:
1) they can't understand my reads day 1 - get in line, i don't understand your reads day 1
2) i am inactive - we have been over this, if i could have been replaced earlier i would have
3) my voting day 2 - i sheeped an uncc'd PR onto the case he told me when he said the vote i wanted wasn't happening. then we lynched the person i wanted to vote, after i asked the uncc'd PR why the hell we couldn't vote on him.
if you've got a point outside of these, it is also irrelevant because i am town and check out this rainbow i am shitting right now. fucking nerd mafia thinking i am low hanging fruit, i will shit and shit and shit until you are blind from color exposure.
![[image loading]](http://rs2img.memecdn.com/i-shit-rainbows-and-shit_o_440893.jpg)
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actually i just read obi's filter. i think obi is super town.
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On April 14 2015 12:22 ritoky wrote:
actually i just read obi's filter. i think obi is super town.
Are you saying that just to sate me or what's behind this read, exactly?
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So your scum team is Yamato/Vivax(koshi)?
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On April 14 2015 12:05 yamato77 wrote:
I'm okay with lynching ritoky.
I will endeavor to find his partner in the mean time.
Actually i'm curious now.
What changed so much from the IDk from earlier?
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I actually completely mischaracterized Obi when I said he stumbled into the lynch. I just said that cuz of how the votes looked. I was real fucking wrong.
He has a really good progression on GB and you should probably never lynch Obi because this is a mafia of the year level bus if it is real.
On April 08 2015 13:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Tbh I really liked the fact that Palmar had the same observation as me in regards to HF's actions thus far, because it seemed like he wasn't jumping to the same conclusions as everyone else was. I don't have an issue with his GB push.
Holyflare generating discussion doesn't make him town. He does so regardless of alignment and I think that the cases he has presented thus far have been rather lame.
Obi takes notice of the interactions, and agrees GB should be pushed for more info. It eventually results in a solid enough scum read and Obi saying:
On April 09 2015 08:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I can lynch Gb.
Even if Hf is going to be bad and call us both mafia.
He keeps asking people questions with GB at the center of it all. He always wants to know why GB moved from x to y or how people are reading GB; here's and example:
On April 09 2015 10:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm inclined to side with Palmar when it comes to this lynch.
Rso, can you explain why you thought Gb was town?
Ultimately Obi arrives at the EXACT SAME PLACE I ARRIVED AT:
On April 09 2015 11:14 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Damdred's post on GB is pretty good.
Palmar's points on GB are pretty good.
I still think his read on Holyflare is bad and his stubborn refusal to explain it is scummy.
That's a good vote.
I could potentially coalesce with yamato on Dr. I thought that case was pretty good but I think the points on GB are better.
Pedit: Chill yam, I already voted.
He is in the same place I was right here:
On April 09 2015 08:02 ritoky wrote:
to be serious for a moment here. i am at a real impasse.
i think palmar is pretty much null. i also have this policy where i don't vote on the largest filter day1 cuz 95% of the time dude is town.
but i also remember down under 2 where palmar had this similar insta-read on me that he blew out of proportion like this and literal 0 people listened to him, i shot him at night, and carried the game....so i am really tempted...
Both of us like Palmar's case, but both of us also like the Yamato train on DR and the people voting on it. At nearly the exact same point we are feeling pretty much the exact same way, which is conflicted on preferring 1 case for content, and the other for town reads voting on it.
then we get this really interesting part where the shennanie starts to happen. I start to think about switching, obi says he may switch too and that we should switch to GB. then yamato HARD defends GB (read full quote):
On April 09 2015 12:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2015 12:08 yamato77 wrote:On April 09 2015 12:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If we're yoloing someone, we should just yolo GB. that's exactly who we shouldn't YOLO onto Why not?
immediately following the vote Obi thinks he should have favored his own reads and the case he preferred this is town as fuckkkkkk. some people call me mafia when i do shit like this, but it is super town to me, it isn't in caps and showy; it is just simple regret:
On April 09 2015 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Should have stuck to the GB vote honestly.
after that there is a brief period where Obi is super confused because he is unsure of Palmar and HF's alignments and what that does to his GB read, but ultimately the scum read is his biggest sticking point in the game as is displayed here:
On April 11 2015 11:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 10:11 Damdred wrote:On April 11 2015 09:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On April 11 2015 07:06 GlowingBear wrote:On April 11 2015 06:33 Eden1892 wrote:@GB I've got a giant pile of people I wouldn't lynch: On April 11 2015 01:24 Eden1892 wrote:
I think we need to lynch Palmar today, I got a lot of tr's outside of the rb claims and Palmar was jailed with missing kp so that seems like the best play.
I don't want to lynch these guys (listed in signups order):
Damdred
Koshi
sicklucker
Vivax
me
ritoky
yamato
I'm very probably wrong about one of these tho b/c obi/gb/palmar is a weird scumteam. But I don't really care much about that right now cuz I think Palmar is almost certainly mafia.
voting palmar Although since this post ritoky is kinda droppin off. Idk how much of it has to do with his wife's pregnancy but it is 100% his tendency to drop off like this as scum so I might have to take him off the list. yamato also seems absent but I don't think I'm as ready to take him off yet. Do you see a possibility where me and Palmar are both town? Why do you townread Damdred? What would make obi Mafia? Eden never really has anything backing the fact that he thinks I'm mafia. He thinks I'm mafia every time he rolls town so him including me in his lists for no reason at all is basically normal. Who's mafia Obi who would you lynch Kind of waiting for yamato to catch back up. I followed up on what Vivax told me and he does tend to fall off after day 1 as mafia even if he actually starts playing. We'll see. Otherwise, I'm not so sure atm. Maybe Gb, for lack of better ideas.
his default read is lynch GB. like if all other avenues don't pan out, he still wants to lynch GB. this is not a read you make on your partner. Obi is never with GB from this point forward.
the rest of his filter is him pushing for a GB lynch and then him manifesting some crap read on me:
On April 12 2015 02:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I never said I wanted to lynch ritoky over Gb. I said that we're probably going to lynch ritoky over Gb because ritoky isn't doing anything.
What is with you and this fascination with me/ and my Gb read?
On April 12 2015 09:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The scumteam is probably something along the lines of yamato/Eden/GlowingBear.
On April 12 2015 11:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Eh, I'd feel better about killing one of Eden/Gb today.
Can we get enough people online for that instead?
On April 12 2015 11:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
We can switch to Gb.
The push is nonstop. There is no coincidence about it. Obi is not bussing here. He is town 100% of the time.
This might mean we can PoE lynch the other 3 and win, gonna have to read a bit more.
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I'm just thinking out loud.
You obviously read his filter as you pulled out so much and rit hasn't been super active. But Yamato went from idk. To being completely sure that ritoky is mafia without any additional explanation.
It freaks me out a small bit
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wait a fucking second too. i am thinking about how the DR lynch even began and look at my post:
On April 08 2015 13:40 ritoky wrote:damdred most probably isn't mafia; but if he is, then he is mafia with dreadreturn. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FBOAt.gif)
so my post here is the beginnings of the lynch on DR that yamato et all go on to push. but my fucking premise is: i don't think damdred is mafia, thus i don't think DR is mafia. yet they take what i present as a linking factor and construe it into DR = mafia. no wonder i wasn't wild about this case. what the fuck was i smoking when i sided with this over palmar's case?
also this post sequence is starting to seem more relevant to me:
On April 08 2015 14:09 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2015 14:06 ritoky wrote:On April 08 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:On April 08 2015 13:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rsoultin, yamato is probably not mafia. lol he was supposed to be proving to me his awesome towniness this game why is he probably not mafia? cuz when HF came out with his plan: yamato all like ![[image loading]](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/fd/0a/df/fd0adfaaf8d9a60198ce9bf890b0f25b.jpg) and then some1 else be like vsing yamato abotu dat shit and he be like ![[image loading]](http://media2.giphy.com/media/hsQiaCx9JyyeQ/giphy.gif) mafia prob don't take such a vindicated stance so immediately esp in a neg direction abt HF's play. hence why yamato is: On April 07 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote:yamato - ![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/0d80cf0eb0527b6f58077be00eae4cf2.png) i have a reason to disagree with this that i am not going to present att you know apart from the usual wifom regarding an argument like this to begin with xP but i do understand your position even if i don't agree with it -shrugs-
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as an aside, that gif is fucking golden.
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Ritoky what do you think of Yamatos fast turn around? Also opinions on Vivax.
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i think that means we can PoE lynch koshi/vivax/yamato and win the game.
i need to read their filters and really see who are my top 2 from that list.
never lynch: ritoky, damdred, palmar, obi.
i may be back more tonight to shit more rainbows; for now i think i would plant my 2 as yamato/vivax
vivax is like 60/40 over koshi for no specific reason that i can remember.
yamato is like 90/10 mafia. just look at his read on me. you'll see the utter failure of coherence and the hypocrisy.
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On April 14 2015 12:56 Damdred wrote:
Ritoky what do you think of Yamatos fast turn around? Also opinions on Vivax.
he is at least a complete hypocrite, and at best obvious mafia.
gonna go with obvious mafia, but will dig into his filter more later. i seem to remember him shit fighting with HF even though i felt he didn't believe in his HF read, then completely dropping off after HF died. just thinking of it, it sounds like a swag play i would make as mafia. but i will go to yamato's filter with the next bit of time i have.
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I'm a huge fan of that towncase on me.
I'm a huge fan of me in general, but I love when people are fans of me.
I still want to see ritoky develop more opinions on others though. Specifically that 60/40 thing he came up with is of interest.
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If I'm going to post ANYTHING for the rest of today, I want absolute freedom to say whatever the fuck I want and not have it immediately questioned by every person in the thread.
It isn't fun to try to think your way through a game and have every post of yours dissected and every single read change of yours questioned. I'm going to be fucking indecisive, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF KNOWING PEOPLE'S ALIGNMENTS.
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To elaborate on my thoughts on ritoky, I really can't say with any degree of certainty one way or the other, BUT I do think he's played quite different later in the game than he did early and the change isn't a good one. HOWEVER, I had a really strong townread D1 and it's hard to ignore that even on D3. So yeah, I said I'd lynch him because he's certainly possible mafia.
A huge towncase on Obi is not convincing whatsoever. It's actually kinda scummy that instead of looking at people that have a higher chance of being scum, ritoky chose to use his efforts calling Obi town when GB just yelled for his lynch all of yesterday.
I find it interesting that Vivax really hasn't posted much of anything besides calling me scum. Is he capable of posting big posts calling me mafia with horrible confirmation bias and then throwing shit at a wall repeatedly as scum? Absolutely. His posts about OTHER THAN ME are markedly few and far between and seem quite lower quality. I only offered him the olive branch in an attempt to rid myself of tunneling him and he hasn't played along whatsoever.
Koshi's posting today LOOKS really townie in a "I'm going to post a bunch and look like I'm figuring out the game" sort of way while maintaining a consistent attitude in terms of how he's treating his interaction with me and my read on him. I don't think it's him.
So yeah, I'm back at ritoky/Vivax.
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Also, LOL if ritoky's scumteam is me/Vivax
LOLOL
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On April 14 2015 06:37 ritoky wrote:
oh, and as an aside, i was roleblocked last night.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT MAFIA
WOW
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came back for a brief moment to say i don't have enough time tonight to do another filter dive.
look at yamato's reaction lol, guy is almost certainly mafia. keep trying to bury the guy shitting town rainbows son, that'll work out well for you. you're mafia, but even for that your criticism of me is terrible twice now and you're hedging.
you criticize me for not concluding enough when i made a post about the votes, when just previously your read on me had concluded in "IDK".
you criticize me here for making a town case on obi. did you not read? like 5 posts earlier i said that vote logic and my gut told me obi was mafia with you. i then went into his filter and discovered that i was utterly wrong and posted why. i don't feel i even need to look at your filter after your reaction here.
oh and "I'm going to be fucking indecisive, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF KNOWING PEOPLE'S ALIGNMENTS." what makes me scum makes you town. got it.
98/2 mafia.
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be back tomorrow morning/afternoon. would you prefer i barf the rainbows then? or more shitting of rainbows?
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oh forgot to mention the hedging part. you do the whole "omg such strong TR day 1, so could be, but not convinced bit". way to set up the hedging quote for later after i flip town. plzzzzz
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