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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 13 2015 20:21 GMT
#2541
btw Vivax. In case you are town.

I would like to point out that HF was a big believer of Obiwan being mafia. He thought it during the night and during the EoD1 when yamato made sure HF wouldn't continue talking to Obi.

rsoultin had yamato/obi/ritoky as null. You as mafia.





nkills apparently don't mean shit lately. But seriously... It really doesn't point towards Koshi as 4th possibility. It's Obi way more likely than Koshi.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
April 13 2015 20:27 GMT
#2542
I'm going to reread that and GBs filter, not necessarily tonight cause I wanna sleep early.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
April 13 2015 20:34 GMT
#2543
Reread HF later posts, messy stuff.

Also remembered that yamato hated HF but didn't join Team Palmar when he had the chance.

I'm still for lynching him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22288 Posts
April 13 2015 20:34 GMT
#2544
Pretty half assed post but that's cause I'm n bed writing this. Will go into detail another time. Gnight.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 13 2015 20:35 GMT
#2545
On April 14 2015 05:34 Vivax wrote:
Reread HF later posts, messy stuff.

Also remembered that yamato hated HF but didn't join Team Palmar when he had the chance.

I'm still for lynching him.

That's a very shit reason for calling me scum, but keep piling it up Vivax.
Writer@WriterYamato
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:25 GMT
#2546
i am here to shit town rainbows for the next hour or 2, unless confirmed town tells me we have a PoE list that will guarantee a town win, then it is okay to just lynch me and PoE win the game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 13 2015 21:33 GMT
#2547
nope
I had a good night of sleep.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:34 GMT
#2548
some questions i read for me after skimming some pages:

hey ritoky, it seems like you really didn't want to lynch gb? naw i did, i like palmar's case on day 1, but it turned out to not be a viable lynch option, so i couldn't vote on it. i liked it again on day 2, i didn't really read much else of day 2; i asked the guy who was an uncc'd PR if that switch was happening, he said no and asked me to vote on yamato. so i voted on yamato. the case was okay on yamato, made him from a town read of mine to a coin flip, but at that point having not read nearly any of the phase; i just went with really the only alternative case provided to me in the thread that was worth a damn.

hey ritoky, your reads look weird, what's up with that? get in line, people been saying that about me since i started playing on TL. i have an unorthodox way of reading people that is highly effective (outside of statistics and vote logic), meh some have gotten used to it. to quote rsoultin though "i have found that when ritoky makes sense you should lynch him". trust the woman, i make tons of sense as mafia cuz i actually order and think about shit before i type.

hey ritoky, who is mafia? fuck if i know, i haven't read that much. i know i didn't like vivax too much during the part of the game i was reading and i felt that obi was trying to ride the middle; but that was a long time ago. shit coulda changed. in reality i am probably just going to sheep confirmed/semi-confirmed town on a good case because frankly their reads are more informed than mine.

any other questions?

also, gb spewed the shit out of me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#2549
I want to dwelve deeper into the Yamato vote. And some other things.

You voted one of your top town reads because Vivax had an ok case. Limited time or not you usually make your mind up on your own and go your own way at points. The Yamato lynch was already pretty sealed if obi and I hadn't of jumped ship.

What about the case brought him to a coin flip enough to not try to push GB at least a bit more than asking I believe it was SL where you should go?

Also I want you to read my post and at least pay attention to the vote movement part I talked about and give opinions about that.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:37 GMT
#2550
oh, and as an aside, i was roleblocked last night.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 13 2015 21:42 GMT
#2551
Why did GB spew you town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 13 2015 21:43 GMT
#2552
+ Who is mafia ritoky?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 13 2015 21:43 GMT
#2553
On April 14 2015 06:42 Koshi wrote:
Why did GB spew you town?

I meant how*
I had a good night of sleep.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:44 GMT
#2554
it was pretty much the only case provided to me. i came to the thread with 2 hours, asked who is mafia and why, the only person who gave enough of a shit about responding to me were SL/vivax. they showed me the case. could i have devoted those 2 hours to making my own decisions, and finding mafia myself? probably, but it wouldn't have been as good imo.

i liked the part about vivax's case where he started talking about yamato TRing people for right reads and MRing people for wrong reads. it made me begin to rethink if i liked him because of his play or if i just liked him because he had been town reading me since i made a gut read on him. i mean usually mafia want to keep people who agree with them/don't want to lynch them soon in the game right? makes some sense.

i will go find your vote post. comment on it soon.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:47 GMT
#2555
On April 14 2015 06:42 Koshi wrote:
Why did GB spew you town?


On April 12 2015 08:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 08:29 sicklucker wrote:
On April 12 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:
SL, read obi and tell me if he is moving the thread forward. Tell me if he is actually trying to solve the game.

You can't.


I did read him when you voted him acualy deciding if I should vote him instead of ritoky. He seems pretty null for obi standards


Ritoky came to the thread couple of times day one and influenced the thread direction. He is also too careless, trolling hard, drawing attention this way, which doesn't fit Mafia mindset of survival. Add to that the townreads on him by confirmed town.

Obi, in the other hand, has no thread influence, wishy washy reads, passiveness and wasted the whole day1 dissing HF without making anything out of it. We also have the HF's game thing.

So yes, I prefer a lynch on obi.

+ Show Spoiler +
I also promised HF I would sheep him last game we played together and I'm doing it now since I now know he is town XD



On April 12 2015 09:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2015 09:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 12 2015 08:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Obi has no thread influence. He comes by, shuts down discussion and never moves thread forward.


I've never shut discussion down. I've given my reads and opinions and me not hardpushing every single lynch in the game doesn't make me mafia.

He just give random reads that are mostly off, but doesn't clearly has a scum target. He says he wants to lynch both me and ritoky but does nothing in that regard.


I have two scum targets, you and ritoky, but I don't have scum targets?

lol

Gtfo.

His insistence of having me revealing HF's game content was weird, as I pointed out before.


So? Scum weird or town weird, and why? Just saying it's weird is worthless.

What a bad case.


1) Giving random reads and saying someone is town right when a suspicion is cast is a form to shut discussion down. All you have done this game is this, giving reads and peacing out.

2) You have me and Ritoky but you do NOTHING to have your scumreads lynched. Too much passivity. You're not trying to convince anyone to vote one of us. This is having reads but not having targets.

3) Scum weird, I've explained it before. Sounded like you wanted me to spoil the game so you wouldn't look bad for not joining in. Spoiling the game was anti town agenda.


there is GB spewing me town. absolutely no reason to hard defend me. this read comes from nowhere. i don't even remember him saying a single word about me day 1, and i say i want to lynch him and he says i am town. i think he thought i would get vigi shot in the night and he wanted the credit of a right read if he survived the day. but that's kinda wifom.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:49 GMT
#2556
On April 14 2015 06:43 Koshi wrote:
+ Who is mafia ritoky?


i answered this above, i honestly don't know cuz i haven't read enough. maybe that opinion will change after i read damdred's post here in a second.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 21:59 GMT
#2557
On April 14 2015 06:37 Damdred wrote:
I want to dwelve deeper into the Yamato vote. And some other things.

You voted one of your top town reads because Vivax had an ok case. Limited time or not you usually make your mind up on your own and go your own way at points. The Yamato lynch was already pretty sealed if obi and I hadn't of jumped ship.

What about the case brought him to a coin flip enough to not try to push GB at least a bit more than asking I believe it was SL where you should go?

Also I want you to read my post and at least pay attention to the vote movement part I talked about and give opinions about that.


I read your vote logic and it is hard to think anything of it if I am being really honest. Your premise for everything that follows is: ritoky is mafia with GB. The majority of your following content is predicated on who could be partners with us and TRing people who lynched mafia. I can get behind the TRing those who lynched mafia part. But the association is flawed because I am town, and thus 75% of your post is invalid.

Here's the thing about it too, you're giving me way too much credit in that post. You act like I was aware of who was voting on who, what was happening in the thread, and that jazz. I wasn't. I came in, asked for cases on who was mafia. Asked the uncc'd PR if we could go on GB, he told me no, vote yamato. I trusted the uncc'd PR since what he pointed to me wasn't bad. No one else tried to sway me, provide a case for me to sheep, or anything. In fact a couple people posted in the thread while I was here and just ignored me. Basically my thought process was the following: well this guy is town, the case he pointed me to isn't the best but it isn't bad, okay fuck it vote with the confirmed town cuz I don't got time for alternatives at this point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 13 2015 22:01 GMT
#2558
Ok, but what about the parts where GB moved his vote hammering himself at that point.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
April 13 2015 22:08 GMT
#2559
On April 14 2015 07:01 Damdred wrote:
Ok, but what about the parts where GB moved his vote hammering himself at that point.


i mean it puts vivax on exactly scum RB as a role, which is an ambitious claim for a couple reasons:

1) does mafia really think that would go unnoticed?
2) is GB really a team player over a selfish mafia player?
3) does the mafia think they can push a lynch on someone other than vivax if it is uncovered?

to answer my own questions, the mafia team is probably not stupid enough to make such a blatant play, GB doesn't strike me as the kinda player to save his teammates over himself, and look who every1 is trying to lynch.

i don't really know what the point of what i just typed is, but w/e it is what i thought when i read it.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 13 2015 22:16 GMT
#2560
Ok well, lets move on from that. I don't follow your reasoning there or what your conclusion is which you can explain to me again if you want.

So how much of the game past/day have you caught up on at this point.

Also when you conclude about Vivax do you think any of the people were bussing GB?
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