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I've just read the general guide, but things are still confusing. I guess in order to really understand the game I gotta participate for once.
So, is it a balanced game? Do the mafia have a 50% win record?
A Vigilant setup will speed up the game, right?
More on the rules: so if a Detective has results on 3 players for example, they may not post it in this thread? Or does it not matter because it is not guaranteed that people will believe him?
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Thanks for the answers so far. I have a few other things I was wondering about like:
Is a minimalistic game possible, where everyone is silent except for daily activities of voting and nightly activities of dispatching and other non-verbal functions?
Assuming a yes, would such a game not favor the mafia, as no information is baited out from them through any sort of interaction whatsoever?
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I think you understood me partly. But I was not talking about rules to forbid posting. I meant a minimalistic game out of free will, where no one chooses to talk at any time. The game with the smallest amount of posts possible. What would it look like? I just want to grasp the lowest possible boundary for this game, regardless of whether it makes sense or is the norm in the first place.
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Ah ok, interesting. 20% (the actual number doesn't matter so much). So balance is indeed reached when both parties try to win. Does it mean that if the mafia is acting randomly instead of directionally, it also becomes a game of luck with the townsfolk winning 20% of the time? The problem I see for mafia to act randomly is that there will be cases where they have to explain themselves, and this will be difficult, unless they can really fit their apparent inconsistencies into a neat system. But they can randomly kill people, that is a valid strategy, right? So are there any comparison of success for random kill vs target kill strategies? Being naive to the game, I can imagine while it's good to prioritize targets, it also paves a way for others to recognize your motives.
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I see, it's kinda hard to act as if nothing happens, when stubborn people starts to converge on you.I'm just trying to understand why randomness cannot be enforced by the mafia, since theoretically this is something good. If a game remains totally random, as the mafia you have a 80% win chance, which I think every mafia would take instead of the real 55% win chance estimated a page earlier given millions of mafia games.
The question is how can the mafia enforce as much randomness or (as the guides calls it) "confusion among the townspeople" as possible, obviously not by "standing out", which includes acting randomly, when everybody else is not. Lol I bet no townspeople will act randomly risking to be lynched. So if you're mafia you're actually playing as if you're townspeople, and the inevitable imperfection of that performance will eventually come back to lynch you?
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Ok, now that the roles are out for everyone. How are we going to drag the opponents out of the shadows? Haven't read any suspicious things or anything that gives away anything. Poking with words in the shadows will really help?
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On April 10 2015 06:44 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 06:39 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 06:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On April 10 2015 06:33 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 06:29 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:On April 10 2015 06:27 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :| how do cops and vigis work in sc2 arcade mafia`? They scout for activity, if no activity they get no info. If it spot activity it usually says who he visited. and how exactly will that help you not dying? well as citizen you are quite fucked up  And its pretty much bad luck if you get killed. Doc can heal, Vet blocks, some roles cannot die during nights. okay but you're talking about cop and vigi, right? you're saying "i hope cop and vigi are good because i don't want to die" and i'm asking you, how exactly can these two roles help you not to die? They catch criminals before I die
You're afraid of dying. Ok you're confirmed town. LOL OH WAIT. You maybe MAFIA.^^
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Can I change my vote during the day?
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Ok. Then I vote according to alphabet.
#VOTE Ace1312
You have 47 hours left to prove your alignment.^^
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I never played mafia. I think on a forum I visited 10 years ago they started playing it. Never understood what the fuss was about. A few month ago the seeds from this time must have grown, when I was bored and read mafia on this forum, I kinda remember I have seen it somewhere before definitely. A game played 10 years ago and now still must have some sort of value right?^^
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Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically. It's still plenty time lift for interaction, I might change my vote anytime, hence I asked whether we can change our vote. I don't see it written on the first page about changing votes. So better vote before I forget to.^^ Btw, I didn't read any mafia threads yet, just the general guide.
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Really now, you must be psychic to infer some sort of alignment from such a post. ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha
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I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.
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On April 10 2015 08:12 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 08:02 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 07:59 Onegu wrote:On April 10 2015 07:30 plotspot wrote:
Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically. It's still plenty time lift for interaction, I might change my vote anytime, hence I asked whether we can change our vote. I don't see it written on the first page about changing votes. So better vote before I forget to.^^ Btw, I didn't read any mafia threads yet, just the general guide. Ok so pressure votes are fine, but I really don't understand the point why he needs to clairify with out being asked why... It's like he feels guilty about why he voted and needed to clairfy to the thread for no reason. so me asking him to clarify doesn't count as a reasonn to clarify? On April 10 2015 07:24 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 07:05 plotspot wrote:
I never played mafia. I think on a forum I visited 10 years ago they started playing it. Never understood what the fuss was about. A few month ago the seeds from this time must have grown, when I was bored and read mafia on this forum, I kinda remember I have seen it somewhere before definitely. A game played 10 years ago and now still must have some sort of value right?^^ alright so after reading some mafia on this forum and checking out the general guide, you decided it was a good idea to vote alphabetically? My point was he made the post to clairfy before you made that post. He votes talks about something then clairifies why he voted ace. Then you asked him the question.
Maybe I anticipated that if I vote without any reason, people would come ask me anyway? Well prplhz still came with his own different question. If I didn't provide anything, in the next post I would have to answer, yeah lolz why did you?^^
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On April 10 2015 08:24 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 08:16 plotspot wrote:On April 10 2015 08:12 Onegu wrote:On April 10 2015 08:02 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 07:59 Onegu wrote:On April 10 2015 07:30 plotspot wrote:
Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically. It's still plenty time lift for interaction, I might change my vote anytime, hence I asked whether we can change our vote. I don't see it written on the first page about changing votes. So better vote before I forget to.^^ Btw, I didn't read any mafia threads yet, just the general guide. Ok so pressure votes are fine, but I really don't understand the point why he needs to clairify with out being asked why... It's like he feels guilty about why he voted and needed to clairfy to the thread for no reason. so me asking him to clarify doesn't count as a reasonn to clarify? On April 10 2015 07:24 prplhz wrote:On April 10 2015 07:05 plotspot wrote:
I never played mafia. I think on a forum I visited 10 years ago they started playing it. Never understood what the fuss was about. A few month ago the seeds from this time must have grown, when I was bored and read mafia on this forum, I kinda remember I have seen it somewhere before definitely. A game played 10 years ago and now still must have some sort of value right?^^ alright so after reading some mafia on this forum and checking out the general guide, you decided it was a good idea to vote alphabetically? My point was he made the post to clairfy before you made that post. He votes talks about something then clairifies why he voted ace. Then you asked him the question. Maybe I anticipated that if I vote without any reason, people would come ask me anyway? Well prplhz still came with his own different question. If I didn't provide anything, in the next post I would have to answer, yeah lolz why did you?^^ Why did I what?
Just forget it. You figured out prplhz's logic, that's enough.
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Maybe because you have Bourne in your name?^^
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prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^
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On April 10 2015 08:50 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^ then vote bourneq with me? like, i'm one of the VETERANS so i'm OBVIOUSLY super good at mafia. now you say i'm 100% town and that's a lot of %. maybe you could believe my read over your own "i'm going to vote alphabetically so i don't get modkilled"-read?
I'm not yet convinced Bourneq is someone to vote for. Maybe you could explain again your stance?
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By experience of some of you Vets how is the pace of the game? Normal?
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This is kinda like a bondage game. Certain sure-fires signs have to be make to appeal to reality. Arghh help I knocked on the bed 3 times. haha
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