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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:55 Tubesock wrote: Night kills aren't going to say very much at this point anyway.We also lose out on more information. If mafia know/believe the claims, then it doesn't give town any information on the nightkills but gives mafia their next two targets easy and no one has to explain why they are alive assuming a top "town" is mafia. Sure, settling the claims now gives scum more information. But it gives town far more information (two roles and two confirmed town, while scum already knows the alignments). I don't care who mafia shoots. Town needs the truth right now, or there is no way to win the game. Power roles are a supplement to analysis, not a substitute. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote: im all for mafia cc'ing me I wont be rolling over after i fuck up bad do not interpret this to be directed at you shining you probs wouldn't but im just making sure | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:55 Breshke wrote: im all for mafia cc'ing me I wont be rolling over after i fuck up bad If you are mafia you also have every reason to tryhard here too. This is wifom at best. ##Unvote ##No Lynch | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:58 Tubesock wrote: If you are mafia you also have every reason to tryhard here too. This is wifom at best. ##Unvote ##No Lynch Yeah i didn't say that. Im saying that if there is another person who wants to claim vet they should. Which i thought you were disagreeing with. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Now you're back to no lynch. Could this be because you know who the blues are now? What is your current read on me? My recent actions. My vig claim. I need you to stop posting flip flops and find scum/start poe. HTS defended you when I called you out on your vote to hammer Dwarf mislynch over prpl. This could explain HTS nk. If she's dead, she never revisits Trfel. If Breshke is in fact vet, then that's 3 town on Prpl. Stutters, hts, breshke. The other is jjb, who I'm not convinced is town but this is partially due to bias from our last game together. RSo, I'd actually like to see your current thoughts on JJB. This, coupled with the fact that Trfel hammered Dwarf, shows me Prpl is scum. Whether it was Breshke panicking and setting up to bus Prl, or Trfel hammering to save scummate Prpl, the conclusion is still that Prpl is scum in this world. I think I'm voting Prpl, provided Bresh isn't cc'd. Note: I'm on the subway typing this post. No phone service. The last post when I started was Breshke's unvote post. Anything after that, I haven't seen or read yet so I apologize if the timing of this post seems awkward. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote: Yeah i didn't say that. Im saying that if there is another person who wants to claim vet they should. Which i thought you were disagreeing with. I'm not sure about this. We already have to talk about your claim(s)/play vs shinings counter. Now you want us to add a Vet CC on you? So what you're fakeclaiming Vet here too? | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
My personal preference is (and always has been) a no lynch. However, no lynching has to be widely agreed upon, and it's not something worth arguing about. I will follow the thread sentiment on this one, as I must. The blue claims absolutely affect my increased desire to no lynch. One of the main reasons to lynch today was to kill the roleblocker and buy another mislynch, but now this won't happen. The Shining, do you not realize how complex this all is? You can't simply expect me to have all of the answers. You're town until counterclaimed. And at this point, only Bourneq really has the chance to try and counterclaim you (anyone else had better really make it worth the wait). | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:03 The Shining wrote: Trfel, you've been flip floppy a lot today. You offered no lynch, then back tracked. Your eon reaction seemed a little fake. You let off some anger then rescinded it. Now you're back to no lynch. Could this be because you know who the blues are now? What is your current read on me? My recent actions. My vig claim. I need you to stop posting flip flops and find scum/start poe. HTS defended you when I called you out on your vote to hammer Dwarf mislynch over prpl. This could explain HTS nk. If she's dead, she never revisits Trfel. If Breshke is in fact vet, then that's 3 town on Prpl. Stutters, hts, breshke. The other is jjb, who I'm not convinced is town but this is partially due to bias from our last game together. RSo, I'd actually like to see your current thoughts on JJB. This, coupled with the fact that Trfel hammered Dwarf, shows me Prpl is scum. Whether it was Breshke panicking and setting up to bus Prl, or Trfel hammering to save scummate Prpl, the conclusion is still that Prpl is scum in this world. I think I'm voting Prpl, provided Bresh isn't cc'd. Note: I'm on the subway typing this post. No phone service. The last post when I started was Breshke's unvote post. Anything after that, I haven't seen or read yet so I apologize if the timing of this post seems awkward. Did you notice the other person who immediately noticed that Half the Sky was vigi shot? | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:29 The Shining wrote: Strange reaction. Did you bread crumb something in your filter? If you did, and you're Vet, now's the time. If not, I'm not really sure how your filter is supposed to tell us you're NOT Vig. well he was one of my top townreads...why would I shoot one of my townreads? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
he's had a lot of good posts, especially early over the weekend...the fall-off during the week is not alignment indicative...lol and to be honest with you part of why i haven't been too concerned about him is i'm pretty sure i'd be dead already if he were scum >< i realize that's wifom but he practically shit himself last time he rolled scum against me lol >< objectively he fell off day 2 just like breshke, bourne, shining and prp did though and they all can't be scum. i need to look closer at people and the votes again that's not happening right away, though. in the meantime i'm not sure that it's a good idea for vet to cc if breshke is fake-claiming again -_- meh | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
I think Bourne and Prpl could be scum together. Considering how hard he was pushing Prpl, it's interesting that he'd lead the Dwarf mislynch over his top scumread. I think he explained this somewhere but I'll have to reread him to remember his excuse. They both scum each other but I haven't seen either forcefully push their reads or make other reads, either. Bourne is the only one who can CC me, as everyone has already claimed or posted after my claim. Only Bourne, jjb and "VT" prpl can counter claim Bresh. Unless JJB claims, I think Bresh could be right here. Prpl claimed vt and Bourne can't cc both of us. I know I'm vig and I'm positive I'd believe a bresh vet claim over a bourne claim, especially since Breshke had that early set up talk I was suspicious of. It makes sense the way he explained it. I also can't remember what Prpls stance was on d1. I'll get to that when I get home. Sorry, guys, replacing at eod means my memory on d1 is fuzzy at best. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:13 rsoultin wrote: Let's assume that Breshke is mafia.in the meantime i'm not sure that it's a good idea for vet to cc if breshke is fake-claiming again -_- meh If the real veteran is currently a townread player, they claim, and Breshke dies. Good! If the real veteran is currently a scumread player, then they're in a rough spot. But if they don't claim, town basically loses automatically. And since they will not be shot, they need to claim. This also gives town as much time as possible to try and figure out the truth. Am I wrong in this assessment? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:17 Trfel wrote: Let's assume that Breshke is mafia. If the real veteran is currently a townread player, they claim, and Breshke dies. Good! If the real veteran is currently a scumread player, then they're in a rough spot. But if they don't claim, town basically loses automatically. And since they will not be shot, they need to claim. This also gives town as much time as possible to try and figure out the truth. Am I wrong in this assessment? lol nope you're not >< now think some more | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:09 Tubesock wrote: Did you notice the other person who immediately noticed that Half the Sky was vigi shot? Do you mean the fact that Trfels reaction that I called fake had already assumed Stutters was vigi shot? And was that you trying to get me to slip? I shot Stutters, not HTS. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:21 The Shining wrote: Do you mean the fact that Trfels reaction that I called fake had already assumed Stutters was vigi shot? And was that you trying to get me to slip? I shot Stutters, not HTS. Gah I typed that wrong. I fully believe you are vigi. I meant that yes Trfel also immediately knew HtS was mafia shot. No need to consider. No time to either. I'm rereading and it's possible that in his filter he was scumming Stutters so thought it was a vigi shot. But I need to find it. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:21 The Shining wrote: Is it not obvious who was vigilante shot and who was nightkilled? Half the Sky was the obvious night kill, clear as day. The only other possibility was Breshke, for his various mentions of power roles and setup speculation. No vigilante would shoot Half the Sky, and no mafia team would shoot Stutters695 instead of Half the Sky here.Do you mean the fact that Trfels reaction that I called fake had already assumed Stutters was vigi shot? And was that you trying to get me to slip? I shot Stutters, not HTS. Are you really suspicious of me for this? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:25 Trfel wrote: Is it not obvious who was vigilante shot and who was nightkilled? Half the Sky was the obvious night kill, clear as day. The only other possibility was Breshke, for his various mentions of power roles and setup speculation. No vigilante would shoot Half the Sky, and no mafia team would shoot Stutters695 instead of Half the Sky here. Are you really suspicious of me for this? I am! But I could be wrong. I thought Stutters was blue hinting pretty good. Plus, he was showing signs of turning on his towniness. | ||
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Trfel
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