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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
You can totally disagree, but this shows you are not thinking about the game as much as you are letting on. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
So if your going to start pushing scum on people for saying stutters was vigi shot you should include me. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:27 Tubesock wrote: Anyone with reasonable TL mafia experience could see that Half the Sky was the night kill there.I am! But I could be wrong. I thought Stutters was blue hinting pretty good. Plus, he was showing signs of turning on his towniness. She made a legacy, carefully posted it with maybe ten seconds to End of Night. Who else was a top night kill? Breshke is the only possibility. Stutters695's "blue hinting" was garbage. If he really is blue, that's extremely obvious, and of course mafia saw it. Honestly, that phrasing should only be used when you're under extreme suspicion, such that it's nearly necessary to claim outright anyway. That's why scum shouldn't give any real weight to it, given the context and circumstances. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:29 jarjarbinks wrote: so this is a mess beyond a mess... I think prp and tube are mafia based on NK's. This claiming stuff is a nightmare. It would be nice to see if Bourneq will validate shining as vig. I think Shining is vig here. can you explain this please? you left a list post right before you went to bed last night that i didn't follow at all :/ | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:31 Breshke wrote: Um so I also was one who "knew" stutters was vigi shot and not HTS if you look at my vigi claim i said i shot stutters. It was trefels psot that amde me actually think about it and when you do its obvious. Like anyone who was going to shoot HTS wouldn't have waited this long. So if your going to start pushing scum on people for saying stutters was vigi shot you should include me. Right there. You still had to "think" about it. Plus, I'm still heavily considering you to be mafia, so yeah of course I'm going to push it on you too. But you're not as immediate either. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
votecount: No Lynch (3): Rsoultin (1): Prplhz, Breshke (): The Shining (): Not voting (4): jarjarbinks, Bourneq, The Shining, Breshke Deadline is in . Currently nobody is set to be lynched with 3 votes | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:28 Tubesock wrote: Stutters695 was playing fairly well towards the end.Stutters was also trying to initiate contact and dialoque with Prplhz. He was trying to lead town and become a consensus builder. You can totally disagree, but this shows you are not thinking about the game as much as you are letting on. But THAT DOES NOT MATTER WHATSOEVER FOR THE NIGHT KILL. Half the Sky is a proven player, townread by everyone, already survived pressure from rsoultin (arguably the hardest hitting player in the game, regardless of her alignment), and has been consistently playing at a high level and driving town. And Half the Sky was extremely vocal about lynching prplhz, so you can't argue that Stutters695 was killed for this reason. Instead, you suggest that mafia would kill someone who is still (at least somewhat) suspected by several people (myself included), and who only recently started playing at a truly high level? For that one sentence that some people decided to (in my opinion, stupidly) interpret as a blue claim? It's quite possible that by the end of Day 3, Stutters695 would have been a universal townread. But why would mafia take a gamble when they have a sure thing? There is no reason to assume that Stutters695 would become more townread or more influential than Half the Sky. Mafia doesn't take chances, mafia goes for the solid plays, especially in a newbie game with two straight mislynches. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:35 Tubesock wrote: I thought about it before the night ended. Long before. And I decided that mafia would kill Half the Sky. Come End of Night, there was no more thinking to be done.Right there. You still had to "think" about it. Plus, I'm still heavily considering you to be mafia, so yeah of course I'm going to push it on you too. But you're not as immediate either. If anything, I think that this shows that I have a reasonable awareness of what is happening in the thread such that I can predict the night kill (to be fair, it's not hard to do at all). | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Anyway, I have a hockey game. Be back in a couple hours. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
isn't it just easier to say only a vig with a peanut for a brain would vig hts? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:37 Trfel wrote: Stutters695 was playing fairly well towards the end. But THAT DOES NOT MATTER WHATSOEVER FOR THE NIGHT KILL. Half the Sky is a proven player, townread by everyone, already survived pressure from rsoultin (arguably the hardest hitting player in the game, regardless of her alignment), and has been consistently playing at a high level and driving town. And Half the Sky was extremely vocal about lynching prplhz, so you can't argue that Stutters695 was killed for this reason. Instead, you suggest that mafia would kill someone who is still (at least somewhat) suspected by several people (myself included), and who only recently started playing at a truly high level? For that one sentence that some people decided to (in my opinion, stupidly) interpret as a blue claim? It's quite possible that by the end of Day 3, Stutters695 would have been a universal townread. But why would mafia take a gamble when they have a sure thing? There is no reason to assume that Stutters695 would become more townread or more influential than Half the Sky. Mafia doesn't take chances, mafia goes for the solid plays, especially in a newbie game with two straight mislynches. Point isn't that Stutters was a good nightkill or not. Point is that you immediately knew it was HtS. I agree she's better. You didn't pause to consider it or anything. you immediately was like "No lynch" then how many posts later "bah we can lynch". I think this is all an act man. Anyway I have to leave for reals. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:40 Tubesock wrote: Well, I wasn't townreading him.I don't think you can just immediately KNOW. Maybe it's just my point of view though. I think Stutters could have been a good night kill also. I have to check to see if you were towning STutters or not. If you weren't then you may have a good argument. But if you were towning him it's something I'm going to be thinking a lot about. Anyway, I have a hockey game. Be back in a couple hours. I hate using player experience as an argument. But I want this settled once and for all. Tubesock, I've played more games of mafia on TL than you have. I was able to predict the mafia's night kill before it happened, through methods that I have already described. Furthermore, two other players have agreed with me that the night kill was obvious. You don't really have any grounds to assume that I am incapable of predicting the mafia night kill in this case, especially given that rsoultin and Breshke expressed similar sentiments. Imagine me scumreading Holyflare for catching mafia when I couldn't see it myself, because he couldn't possibly have seen something that I didn't. It wouldn't work out at all. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:41 rsoultin wrote: geez truffle -_- isn't it just easier to say only a vig with a peanut for a brain would vig hts? I almost did tbh. My first ever game here she was GF and it scarred me Lmao. But she was too town for me to think she was doing it again. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:44 Tubesock wrote: You really think it would be a good idea for me to vocally argue for a no lynch while other people want to lynch? So we have the normal argument of who to lynch, and the additional argument of whether or not to even lynch?Point isn't that Stutters was a good nightkill or not. Point is that you immediately knew it was HtS. I agree she's better. You didn't pause to consider it or anything. you immediately was like "No lynch" then how many posts later "bah we can lynch". I think this is all an act man. Anyway I have to leave for reals. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:34 rsoultin wrote: can you explain this please? you left a list post right before you went to bed last night that i didn't follow at all :/ then ask me about it? I thought it made sense lol prp and tube push stutters lynch day 1. kill HF because by N1 they were both doing relatively well (see list). now that stutters, hts, and dwarf are all town this leaves them if this is true, theyre play on dwarf was phenominal and also sucky for dwarf. prob saw his play early and saw the opportunity to use him. prp to get credit for constantly defending the misread townie and tube for crazy tinfoil theories and no hate for constantly pushing the mislynch they have changed to my top two filters now to go through I need to check to see if things would line up. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
If majority goes no lynch, we go no lynch. But if we're lynching, I'm pushing Prpl. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 16 2015 13:50 jarjarbinks wrote: then ask me about it? I thought it made sense lol prp and tube push stutters lynch day 1. kill HF because by N1 they were both doing relatively well (see list). now that stutters, hts, and dwarf are all town this leaves them if this is true, theyre play on dwarf was phenominal and also sucky for dwarf. prob saw his play early and saw the opportunity to use him. prp to get credit for constantly defending the misread townie and tube for crazy tinfoil theories and no hate for constantly pushing the mislynch they have changed to my top two filters now to go through I need to check to see if things would line up. hmmmm so you're saying you think the HF shot happened because scum was sitting easy and didn't have to worry about anything after day 1? lol >< i can see that thought process for sure if prp's not scum you probably are xP who is your third scum, jjb...do you have one? | ||
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