EPTI COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD
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Trfel
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I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
On April 16 2015 11:57 Trfel wrote: And before you ask, of course I'm joking.HAHAHAHAHA THIS IS AMAZING I COUNTERCLAIM VIGILANTE XD The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is. I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now. ##unvote And if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim. | ||
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Breshke
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Prp has basically said he isnt vigi so now we are just waiting on either you or bourne because prp has claimed vanilla and i think i would probably believe shining over borne anyway since he has even less reason to shoot stutters | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 16 2015 11:59 Trfel wrote: And before you ask, of course I'm joking. The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is. I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now. ##unvote And if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim. parrot :/ | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 16 2015 11:59 Trfel wrote: And before you ask, of course I'm joking. The only real conclusion to be drawn from this is that Breshke and The Shining decided to make this game even more of a nightmare than it already is. I have a history paper due tomorrow, once I turn that in I will try to catch the scum. But it does sort of appear that we need to lynch today now. ##unvote And if there is a real vigilante who is not The Shining, they definitely should counterclaim. not really the shinings fault. I forced him to claim there if he is the real vigi i guess. If it was anyone but him or rso my plan was good i think idk | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Oh, and as for those of you wondering about the night kill (Tubesock?), Half the Sky was the best night kill there. She was definitely playing better than rsoultin in this game, and was being very influential. Killing Half the Sky makes sense in terms of both skill and performance in this game. It doesn't necessarily mean that Half the Sky had incredible reads (though that is certainly a possibility). It does suggest that there isn't another widely townread player with incredible reads, unless of course Half the Sky also had incredible reads. I just find it hard to believe that there is someone with amazing reads this game. In short, I don't think the night kill gives us much information at all. Scum is just headhunting the best players (same with the Holyflare night kill), trying to choke town through lack of skill. And it seems to be working just fine. | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
no im not vigi have you read my filter? lol i'm super behind, church things after work lol | ||
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jarjarbinks
569 Posts
sorry guys I have like 10 pages to go | ||
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Trfel
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Well, someone on the scum team probably knows already. So it's free to say in the open. Scum actually has plenty of incentive to counterclaim when town is in MYLO, since all they need is one mislynch. Normally, scum can't counterclaim because after the real town is lynched, they will be lynched themselves, and a one for one trade is good for scum. However, that isn't the case any more. First and foremost, Breshke's play makes absolutely no sense whatsoever from a town perspective, unless he was trying to draw a shot. But that doesn't seem to be indicated in his filter, he seems to be trying to draw out a counterclaim (in this case, a fake claim). And while I could definitely see mafia counterclaiming here, I can also very easily see the real vigilante counterclaim. So basically, Breshke's plan seems to be attempting to draw out the mafia to counterclaim on himself (a seemingly vulnerable target) and then rescind his claim, and have a solid townread actually claim vigilante, thus dooming the scum counterclaimer. Breshke, is this a correct interpretation of your intentions? The glaring problem with this is that if the real vigilante counterclaims first, he gets absolutely nothing from it. | ||
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Breshke
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Breshke
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On April 16 2015 09:13 Breshke wrote: Okay im not sure if this is the right move but I am the vigi and I shot stutters last night. It was a very poor decision and i hesitated on it because he softed blue earlier and i was worried he was the vet. Then he started pushing me after i tried to hammer someone who he had been scumreading and it just gave me really bad vibes. The bad thing from this shot, we go into mylo the good is that i am quite confident that rso and shining are mafia Anyway I WILL BE SHOT TONIGHT and i was hoping someone would fake claim this because the fake claim would most likely have been the vet trying to pull a bullet since if we manage to kill the role blocker today that play would have effectively gained us a miss lynch. WHICH IS WHY WE DONT NO LYNCH. Let me reiterate. The vet does not claim here noone else claims here because mafia HAS TO shoot me else they risk shooting into the vet and if we kill Rso or maybe shining we have a 1/3 shot of killing the role blocker which effectively means if the vet ever gets shot we gain a misslynch,. The bolded is a fairly important paragraph. This is exactly what i was trying to do. I am the Veteran. This is part of the reason why i brought the logic up why there is most likely a verteran because i wanted the possible cop to know not to rely on a medic. Also why i was asking about roleblocks because the person who was roleblocked would have been very suspicious because if there was a vigi there was no reason for scum to not roleblock there kill but if there was a cop that person would have been less suspicious. Rso actually noticed that that paragraph was me trying to tell the real vigi not to out. This was probably a shit idea because at the time I honestly thought shining and rso were scum. It is probably better that this happend because i could have been persuaded to vote shining today and mafia only needs one town voting wrong so we would have lost. I didn't interact in the thread last night because i felt it was useless because i knew i could clear myself by claiming vet(which is dumb) but it is also why ive been playing different/more reckless this game At least the newbies are seeing how not to play lol | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
JJB didn't claim vigi. The lol reactions are disheartening. Prpl claimed vt. Trfel, Tube, RSo, Bresh have all been here. The only person left to CC me is Bourne. Inb4 Bourne CCs me as scum. This also means at least 2 or all 3 scum have seen my claim and not CCd. Why would scum wait until the very last person entered thread to CC? And with Bourne, no less, a player constantly under suspicion. I'm the vigi and they're scared of CCing me because of the risk. They'd rather kill me tonight, if we make it that far. K I'm out | ||
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Breshke
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Claim vigi. Get shot during the night and unclaim vigi right before day post. Shining claimed vigi and i was so sure he was scum claiming to try and win the game. It seems that i am wrong | ||
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Trfel
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I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate. However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches? | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:23 Trfel wrote: Furthermore, if we have a real veteran, they should counterclaim Breshke. I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate. However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches?  | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
##Unvote Until I see who and when a CC comes in for you, I can't in good conscience vote you. Even though you claiming defeats the point of having a vet now. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
"the vet should not claim" breshke: I AM THE VET. this is how NOT to play -_- no shit, sherlock but now we have poe so there's that xP assuming breshke isn't fake-claiming again btw, bresh, if this is your vet play i do not understand >< | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:23 Trfel wrote: Furthermore, if we have a real veteran, they should counterclaim Breshke. I would say more, but this is a newbie game. Thus it's not appropriate. However, perhaps next newbie game, we should make sure that everyone gets coaches? I've played 3-4'games here, I think. This is 4th or 5th. I hold n illusions, I am definitely still a newb. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 16 2015 12:25 The Shining wrote: I've played 3-4'games here, I think. This is 4th or 5th. I hold n illusions, I am definitely still a newb. he probably means me dude dw it fine I have to claim here or town just keeps going the wrong way. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Now I have to play the game. This is so interesting. Even if it's an unbelievable mess and destruction of everything that mafia is supposed to be, it's extremely interesting. So much for that paper I have to write. Anyway, I apologize for getting a bit heated this game. I'll try to settle down. There's really nothing to get upset over, it's not like I've never messed up (or even that I've been playing all that well this game). It's a game for fun, winning is secondary. | ||
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