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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 21:02 GMT
#920
Shit.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 10:52 GMT
#1435
Hello everybody, I am sorry for my absence yesterday I was swamped with school and a meeting. Came home for my raid time and then went straight to bed. I am reading up now but there is lots!
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 11:33 GMT
#1436
So not much has happened whilst I was gone for what I can see from a quick read through. More replacements and back on the old burn bourneq bandwagon.


What I wonder is how TBD can justify not doing anything what so ever to help town in any way shape or form? I can only justify it with a scum read. I was hopin to get some reads from him today but all I got was
On April 11 2015 23:45 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 22:32 rsoultin wrote:
O.o

Tube moving up lol but dude i think you may be high on something xP not a huge fan of narratives anyway. yours at least had me laughing?

dwarf could you please give reads? even if you like arent sure on any of them?

prp read is in part knowing him but mostly the nature of his posts. hes aggressive, has made some sharp comments/observations, and his reads adapt to what is going on in the thread rather than remaining static lol

you...returning to prp scumread after its poinyed out that you seemed to drop it, plus some of those posts that are pure commentary...id be happy to lynch you today >< what do you think about that?

I dont find anybody really suspicious..

Stutters695. Checking his filter and I mostly see questions. Looks like he doesn't really have own opinion but is asking others what do they think.

btw, I dont like you Tubesock, you have been chasing me from the beginning

##Vote thebloodydwarf

There is a lot of talk about stutters. Top of page 2 of his filter he says "Assume I'm town for a second(you'll see why d2)."
and I have yet too see why. There is still quite a few hours left so I am interested in what he has got for us.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 12:48 GMT
#1442
On April 14 2015 20:52 Half the Sky wrote:
Good afternoon Bourneq.

Last night I did a VCA (vote count analysis) starting with the people I felt looked most suspicious. You were one of the most likely though I still need to look into the "less" suspicious individuals, but looking through you, my biggest beef with you was not your activity, but that you appeared to jump reads. The 15 hour gap between you wanting dwarf and Ace (now Shining) gone and then thread sentiment swung plotspot's way made me assess whether you were going along with the crowd when you'd been able to keep your options open by casing him earlier.

I can see where you cased plotspot before and after ranking your scumreads, but Rasputin did point out ONE redeeming quote where you seemed to have original content and thought on prplhz.

If you can answer the questions that I (and I know a few others posed for you) I think it would help greatly. Also if you can clarify where you stand on prplhz given his activity/etc D2, that would also help greatly.


Good afternoon! Ill start with me "jumping to reads". My feelings on dwarf day 1 "I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here." Basicly I thought I should give TBD some time to give reads and get into the game before I jumped to a conclusion.
Next up was Ace because he had not said a word all game. Since I did not have much to go on so early in the game I was concidering making a policy lynch. So when asked if I had to cast my vote right now who would I cast it on I said Ace. There was still plenty of time left of d1 so I was almost certain I would never acctualy cast that vote.

As d1 went on and I got to read the cases against plotspot and my own personal reads of him I felt plotspot was the correct lynch. I had been keeping "my options open" because I did not feel I had very strong reads but that my strongest read was on plot. That was my first ever day of mafia so I would be a fool to trust my very first reads to much.

So to answer
"2 Was queried multiple times on the read switches from plotspot to TBD to Ace (who would be policy) to plotspot. Gives an answer to prplhz saying that TBD was most likely scum. "

I am not sure what you meant by "read switches". Early on in the day I was getting bad vibes from tbd who was acting pretty suspicious to me. But it was early on in the day so I was going to give him time to redeem himself. He did not do much of anything for the rest of the day while plotspot was making a very bad case for himself and I thought that my reads on him were stronger than thoose I had on tbd. Somewhere in the middle of d1 I am asked who I would vote on if I had to vote that very second. I answered Ace because I did not feel enough information had surfaced on anybody so a policy lynch would be in good order.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 13:04 GMT
#1443
Prplhz activity in d2 is really poor. He has been consistent in 2 things, defending dwarf and trying to lynch the 1 person I can be absolut sure is town. D2 he seems to be sure about his scum read on stutters yet pushes a lynch on me instead.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 19:16 GMT
#1502
On April 15 2015 03:57 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:48 Bourneq wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:52 Half the Sky wrote:
Good afternoon Bourneq.

Last night I did a VCA (vote count analysis) starting with the people I felt looked most suspicious. You were one of the most likely though I still need to look into the "less" suspicious individuals, but looking through you, my biggest beef with you was not your activity, but that you appeared to jump reads. The 15 hour gap between you wanting dwarf and Ace (now Shining) gone and then thread sentiment swung plotspot's way made me assess whether you were going along with the crowd when you'd been able to keep your options open by casing him earlier.

I can see where you cased plotspot before and after ranking your scumreads, but Rasputin did point out ONE redeeming quote where you seemed to have original content and thought on prplhz.

If you can answer the questions that I (and I know a few others posed for you) I think it would help greatly. Also if you can clarify where you stand on prplhz given his activity/etc D2, that would also help greatly.


Good afternoon! Ill start with me "jumping to reads". My feelings on dwarf day 1 "I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here." Basicly I thought I should give TBD some time to give reads and get into the game before I jumped to a conclusion.
Next up was Ace because he had not said a word all game. Since I did not have much to go on so early in the game I was concidering making a policy lynch. So when asked if I had to cast my vote right now who would I cast it on I said Ace. There was still plenty of time left of d1 so I was almost certain I would never acctualy cast that vote.

As d1 went on and I got to read the cases against plotspot and my own personal reads of him I felt plotspot was the correct lynch. I had been keeping "my options open" because I did not feel I had very strong reads but that my strongest read was on plot. That was my first ever day of mafia so I would be a fool to trust my very first reads to much.

So to answer
"2 Was queried multiple times on the read switches from plotspot to TBD to Ace (who would be policy) to plotspot. Gives an answer to prplhz saying that TBD was most likely scum. "

I am not sure what you meant by "read switches". Early on in the day I was getting bad vibes from tbd who was acting pretty suspicious to me. But it was early on in the day so I was going to give him time to redeem himself. He did not do much of anything for the rest of the day while plotspot was making a very bad case for himself and I thought that my reads on him were stronger than thoose I had on tbd. Somewhere in the middle of d1 I am asked who I would vote on if I had to vote that very second. I answered Ace because I did not feel enough information had surfaced on anybody so a policy lynch would be in good order.


First, I'm glad you're voting Dwarf.

Second, the way I read your list post you basically scummed everysingle person on that list except for Breshke. Later you said you only have 2 scums...Can you update please?

I was not aware of the expression of "nulling" somebody. I would have used that word instead on a few reads. What I was saying in that post was that I was leaning this or the other on that person at that time. Obviously since it was early on in the game I was not sure about anybody.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 19:20 GMT
#1506
I have always looked closely on prplhz but when I made a case against him I was acused of OMGUS so I dont think I would be the best person to make a good case against him. Comparing his filter to Dwarfs made me settle on a dwarf lynch seeing dwarf has contributed nothing.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 19:52 GMT
#1523
On April 15 2015 04:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 22:04 Bourneq wrote:
Prplhz activity in d2 is really poor. He has been consistent in 2 things, defending dwarf and trying to lynch the 1 person I can be absolut sure is town. D2 he seems to be sure about his scum read on stutters yet pushes a lynch on me instead.


meh this is like the only smart thing bourne has posted since the beginning of n1

objectively i agree that prp's done almost jack all, and ignoring the hypocrisy of bourneq criticizing someone else's activity lol >< his statements are either really obvious or unverifiable...the one good thing is the last sentence




also finished rereading tube...i suppose he could be scum, hts, if only because i'm used to him pushing things more than he has been, but there are so many good insights in his filter that i can't see myself wanting to lynch him over players like bourne/tbd/shining/prp xP

Where in the world am I criticizing prplhz activity? I am not saying he has not been active I was saying he has not contributed anything of note.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 20:22 GMT
#1534
On April 15 2015 04:57 rsoultin wrote:
considering the answer to your question

"prplhz activity in d2 is really poor"

is right in the quote i quoted?

more to the point, unlike dwarf you actually started out day 1 with at least an opinion...as i said, that one post was pretty much the only contribution you actually made. got something to say to that or are you going to quibble over semantics ^^ cause i just looooove those sorts of arguments. they irritate me no end

You are absolutely right it does say activity. What I meant to write was contributions, I absolutely don't think prplhz has not been active in the thread. My misstake. His activity doesnt really feel like its helping town in any way however.

I am trying to contribute. I read peoples filters and really look for things that strike me and contribute best I can. D2 has been a little lackluster from my side purely due to real life obligations. The problem I have is that I dont feel confident in some of my reads because I have so little experiance in finding scum or scummy behaviour that it might just derail town from better reads.
I will be more and more vocal as time goes on tho.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 20:33 GMT
#1555
On April 15 2015 05:30 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
I really feel bad tho. People asking me what I think and why I dont post scumhunting. Simple fact is that I don't really find anybody scummy. I only see if people are active or not and are they answering questions. Pretty bad at analyzing posts :/

I hardly remember who is scumhunting who and who they were scumhunting.

This was almost reasonable if it was not for the fact that I dont get the feel that you even tried to scumhunt. Or to make a case for yourself.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 14 2015 21:06 GMT
#1624
On April 15 2015 06:01 Stutters695 wrote:
Breshke Prpl scum. Discuss.

Well prplhz has been defending dwarf the entire game, do you think he would do that knowing he would be very likely to be lynched anyway? I give prpl a lot of town points for that.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 21:34 GMT
#1773
Oh good grief. To answer hts's doubts on me, I was concidering changing my vote on tbd at EoD2 to prplhz but decided against it because 1. I am terrible, and 2. I really belived tbd was scum. I had doubts on prplhz because I thought a lot of my suspicions were grounded in him trying his very best to kill me.
Well now I don't have any doubts about prplhz. I should of lynched him while I had the chance.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 21:39 GMT
#1775
Explain to me please what we achiev with not lynching? Newbie question im sure but I need to know before I cast a vote.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 21:58 GMT
#1781
A no lynch could make sense. But I think our case against prplhz is absolutely lynch worthy. He has pushed both hts and stutters but not got his way. Now they are dead. He defended dwarf most likely to get some town cred to his name after we surely lynch him. He has pushed a lynch on me since I got of on a bad footing and is the newbie that would be easy to be made to look bad. I don't concider his reads or most of his posts to have been helpfull to town at all. He also wasted his vote D2. Not to mention all the other reads against him like the one hts did. I feel very confident in lynching prplhz.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 22:03 GMT
#1787
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 22:07 GMT
#1797
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 22:12 GMT
#1800
On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?

Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#1803
On April 16 2015 07:13 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 07:12 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:07 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:04 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:03 Bourneq wrote:
On April 16 2015 07:01 Trfel wrote:
On April 16 2015 06:59 prplhz wrote:
##Vote rsoultin

i also know the other two scum
Explain?

So that I cant vote him first and get a lynch from being the first vote of course.
You also want to lynch rsoultin?

Why?

lol no I want to lynch prplhz. He voted rsoultin I asume so that I could not kill prplhz on a tie, so he voted before I did.
What? You realize that it would require more than one vote to lynch someone?

Yea? he got 2 scum buddies ready to defend or vote to save him. So the odds of a tie is quite substantial even with all votes.
I guarantee you that the timing of a vote made barely over an hour after the day began will not have any effect on a potential tiebreak for the lynch.

How come? Quoted from OP "If there is a tie for most votes, whoever most recently had more votes than the other is the person who is up for the lynch."
Concidering there is talk of not voting at all then there is quite the chance that it could matter.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 22:19 GMT
#1807
I did not know that!
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 15 2015 22:22 GMT
#1808
My other points on prplhz still stand.
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