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Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:38 GMT
#471
On April 10 2015 16:15 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Looks like I have to bit explain myself. After reading this I think my posts make more sense.


This is not sc2 arcade mafia.

I thought day 1 is just day for chat. Nothing happens before somebody brings evidency to table. Also I didnt know its insta lynch who gets most votes. So pretty much my day1 posts mean nothing. I felt like everybody is chatting (felt for me) and then suddenly Soren333 starts replying to those chatty posts. I thought it looked really funny and he even asked questions that I answered later but before he asked again.

Also I didnt know that scum means mafia. I realized scum means mafia way way later. "Everybody has little scum inside them" Isn't that just like some IRC chat? like talking to friends? Nobody trying to be serious kind of answer.

Why I voted somebody? Looks like you have to vote everyday or you get kicked out of the game. (again this is not sc2 mafia..). I just voted fearing maybe I forget or don't have time to vote and admins kick me out.

Why fear of death some ask? Well, I want to play this game and not to die? "I hope our cop or vigi is good". Again, I was expecting cop to give some "evidence" to table and then people discuss is that person trustful and can his claims even be possible.

But that's all wrong. Looks like you make your presumption based on chat. With feels quite weird to me now but I am noob playing this mafia for the first time and some here are experts. So I have to see how this works out.

So I think I have time to rethink who to vote so,
##UNVOTE


Acceptable. So my entire read on you is null now. Great.

You still had poor reactions, I'll remember that.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:43 GMT
#472
On April 10 2015 20:24 prplhz wrote:
soren333 what do you think about jarjarbinks defense of bloodydwarf? i think it was pretty good.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 15:24 jarjarbinks wrote:
[...]1. He kept getting more and more defensive and not looking logical
2. He didn't early vote someone (right?) thinking that it isn't a big deal.
3. He didn't read the rules or something, which makes me think he is liable to focus on people scumming him because he doesn't really grasp what he is supposed to be doing.
4. Look how much attention dwarf got.
[...]


especially 1

1. Saying that someone loses a logical standpoint more and more seems to come from scum than townie because scum obviously clammed up and lost his shit. However, considering that dwarf came into the game without reading the op and was under the influence of sc2 arcade mafia, this is understandable.

2. I think he did vote.

3. Makes sense.

4. He got attention, but I don't see how this is a reason to town read him.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:44 GMT
#473
All in all, jarjarbrinks offered a refreshing outlook on the dwarf read.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:45 GMT
#474
On April 10 2015 08:49 Soren333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^

100% town?

The only way anyone right now that can be 100% certain that someone is town is if they are mafia.


Time to change my vote.

##Vote plotspot
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:48 GMT
#476
On April 10 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote:
i can support a plotspot lynch but i'd rather lynch bourneq

What's your scum read on him?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:53 GMT
#479
On April 10 2015 20:49 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 20:07 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.

What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia.


You could at least draw an opinion or assumption.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:56 GMT
#481
On April 10 2015 20:52 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 20:48 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 20:45 prplhz wrote:
i can support a plotspot lynch but i'd rather lynch bourneq

What's your scum read on him?

read his filter and tell me one thing that makes him look either town or scum

instead he spends all the time making non-reads and only when prodded, not on his own.

scum don't want to contribute and that's exactly what he's doing, not contributing. say what you want about plotspot but there's more townie in his filter than in bourneq's filter. plotspot is at least trying. i agree that his 100% read is super weird but at least it's a read.

Oh that's right. He either only posts when people prod him or when someone votes him. That's hella scummy.

##Vote Bourneq
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:58 GMT
#482
On April 10 2015 09:19 Bourneq wrote:
To get back on track thebloodydwarf has been using some really weak arguments and acting generaly scummy.

He also made a very generic comment on dwarf where he didn't point out the really weak arguments, nor did he point out the generally scummy things. Seems like he just wanted to say something in order to fit with the general opinion at the time.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 12:00 GMT
#484
On April 10 2015 20:54 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 20:49 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 20:07 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.

What are you talking about? I talked about it several times already. I would not draw a conclusion from that original comment if I was town nor mafia.


Here more specifically and not two thousand posts later neither. You are making some really poor arguments here.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:25 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:22 Bourneq wrote:
I could not hear his tone over the internet.


Okay, I think you could be taking me too literally. Let's try it this way.

When I mention "tone read" does the fact that he's asking us this question, what does it make you think of him? That's what I am trying to ask.

It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me


The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information.
But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town.


You're also contradicting yourself since you said it did not make you think of anything.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 12:09 GMT
#489
I like your response, it offers a reasonable explanation to your behaviour.

Prplhz what do you make of his response?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 17:22 GMT
#557
On April 10 2015 22:59 Stutters695 wrote:
So this game started apparently. What's up guys?


A lot is up, go read.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 17:42 GMT
#580
On April 10 2015 23:33 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 18:54 Bourneq wrote:
Good morning!

Dwarf I am interested in how you did not know what scum means. It is meantioned twice in the OP and twice in the followup post right after. Seeing how you missed the part about editing it makes a bit more sense since you obviously did not read the thing. But under coaches for example it says
Town:
Scum:
It is pretty hard to missunderstand what scum in this context means. As a fellow newbie I understand you could be speaking the truth but did you really not read the OP?



Prplhz I actually like this post, wouldn't lynch him today for this post

Eh, basing a read on a single post is bad.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 11:39 GMT
#745
On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.

and waffling means not having any strong opinions.

You offer so much "generic opinions" but never really explain them to a certain extent.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 11:44 GMT
#746
On April 11 2015 02:36 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 23:08 Half the Sky wrote:
Bloody Dwarf, when you return I have a question for you. I read and saw your explanation which in of itself is fine and dandy. Can you explain why you told Soren (and others) not once but three times why he/they needed to stop digging up or digging through old things?

I wanted to be ...damn I had that word in my mouth but now I lost did.... mysterious!!

Also, It feels really weird if somebody is replying to "old" chatty messages. At least it feels like that for me if somebody replys in whatsapp group to something "old". But this isn't whatsapp

First off, what are you on about with the word in your mouth. I have no idea what point you're trying to make there.

Secondly, why is it so weird to respond to old messages? And does the weirdness of that warrant a town/scum read?

I can see why it's weird on whatsapp because you're replying to an old conversation and since you've become accustomed to it, that custom also transfers here. But this is a mafia game where you're suppose to go back and look over what people have said already. I don't see you finding it weird when players read other player's filter.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 11:45 GMT
#747
On April 11 2015 02:36 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 02:32 Bourneq wrote:
On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum

he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum

I was not calling you scum untill late today, you had a fair reason to bring to attention that I was acting strange at the beginning for mainly just answering to pokes. But my poiny lately is that I have been over why that was the case and you're still going after me like I slayed you family in cold blood or something. I find that odd behaviour if you were town. You were fine in my back untill a few pages back.


o.0 where did that come from?

You made him angry.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 11:47 GMT
#748
On April 11 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 02:33 prplhz wrote:
i hope jarjar agrees with his sister on something then i'm just going to sheep them


?

lol this is a strange comment prp

our alignments are dependent on each other or what are you saying?

It is a strange comment. Prp is scum at this moment. Asking pointless questions to appear as town, pushing for lynch that are not well founded and making weird comments.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 11:58 GMT
#751
On April 11 2015 02:38 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 18:54 Bourneq wrote:
Good morning!

Dwarf I am interested in how you did not know what scum means. It is meantioned twice in the OP and twice in the followup post right after. Seeing how you missed the part about editing it makes a bit more sense since you obviously did not read the thing. But under coaches for example it says
Town:
Scum:
It is pretty hard to missunderstand what scum in this context means. As a fellow newbie I understand you could be speaking the truth but did you really not read the OP?

I swear to god I readed most of the texts before signing up but somehow I managed to miss couple of things

Or I just have really bad memory

I don't blame you. No one reads an entire book and is able to regurgiatate all its minute details.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 11:59 GMT
#752
On April 11 2015 20:53 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 20:47 Soren333 wrote:
On April 11 2015 02:38 rsoultin wrote:
On April 11 2015 02:33 prplhz wrote:
i hope jarjar agrees with his sister on something then i'm just going to sheep them


?

lol this is a strange comment prp

our alignments are dependent on each other or what are you saying?

It is a strange comment. Prp is scum at this moment. Asking pointless questions to appear as town, pushing for lynch that are not well founded and making weird comments.

bah i don't feel like interacting with you about this and i don't think i'm even going to be considered for lynch but whatever

can you quote/explain the pointless questions and explain why the lynches i'm pushing are not well founded and quote my weird comments and explain why they are scummy

I'm happy that you asked.

I'm playing catch up on my phone right now. But when I get on the pc in a few hours I'm making a case on you.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 12:01 GMT
#753
On April 11 2015 02:41 prplhz wrote:
btw, can people please stop voting for someone who is doing odd stuff because he wants to look mysterious? that is really not scum behavior.

Now who are you talking about in particular? Who exactly is voting for who for doing odd stuff?

And why does someone want to look purposely mysterious? How does that help someone as town or scum? And why is it not indicative of scum?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 11 2015 12:03 GMT
#754
On April 11 2015 02:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 02:42 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 23:33 Onegu wrote:
On April 10 2015 18:54 Bourneq wrote:
Good morning!

Dwarf I am interested in how you did not know what scum means. It is meantioned twice in the OP and twice in the followup post right after. Seeing how you missed the part about editing it makes a bit more sense since you obviously did not read the thing. But under coaches for example it says
Town:
Scum:
It is pretty hard to missunderstand what scum in this context means. As a fellow newbie I understand you could be speaking the truth but did you really not read the OP?



Prplhz I actually like this post, wouldn't lynch him today for this post

Eh, basing a read on a single post is bad.


lol >< assuming that saying someone doesn't want to lynch someone based on one post on day 1 means they're hard townreading someone isn't particularly good either, soren xP


Indeed sir.
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