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Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:15 GMT
#261
On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

Digging up old things? Judging from your second sentence I can safely assume that you're implicitly implying that me digging old things is bad? Why is it bad?

Why let past be past?

First of, I wouldn't call them old things. Game started and I haven't posted till now, therefore I shall offer my thoughts as I play the catch up game.

And secondly, let past be past means you're just going to ignore everything that everyone has already said. In that case, how will you evaulaute someone's actions and words and determine if they are scum or not?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:17 GMT
#264
On April 10 2015 07:56 Onegu wrote:
So I was planning on trying hard but then I rolled town so no I'll try one semi hard.

In before that's what she said...

Also moment Found something interesting.

I don't like this at all.

Claiming town does nothing at all. You can't just expect us to take you're word for it can you?

Scum read.

And what's this interesting thing you found?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:18 GMT
#266
On April 10 2015 08:01 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:58 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:43 plotspot wrote:
Ok, now that the roles are out for everyone. How are we going to drag the opponents out of the shadows? Haven't read any suspicious things or anything that gives away anything. Poking with words in the shadows will really help?


Town read as this newbie is trying to learn how to scum hunt.



Really I almost read it like he wants to hide from activity... Why post this here In the thread?


How is he hiding from activity?

He wants to learn how to scum hunt.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:20 GMT
#271
On April 10 2015 08:09 Tubesock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:04 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:00 Tubesock wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:54 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:53 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Wow Soren is really digging old things :D

Cant we let past be past?

you should really just answer him

and answer breshke why you are voting me


Soren is looking good. Dwarf, uh not so much. Dwarf, you going to scumhunt at all?

Prplhz, how do you read Half The Sky? She seems different this game from what I've seen of her in the past. Seems towny to me, but to be fair, I've only seen her in 1 scum game and I thought she was strong town then?

Not much with what to scumhunt


It's like you're making an excuse already not to. You haven't questioned anyone. I think you just don't care and already have the game figured out.

Do you have any town reads, anything?


Yup. Strong scum read on dwarf right now.

##Vote TheBloodyDwarf
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:22 GMT
#273
On April 10 2015 08:11 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:46 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

You're kidding me. That's scummy as hell.

What kind of person says "oh hey guys huehuehue I might or might not be scum derp".

Vote: prplhz

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 07:50 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:19 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:16 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote:
That said, what do you think of prplhz's comment?


EBWOP at Bourneq - specifically this:

On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Sorry again the phone..
It does not help me gain any information of any kind so I am not bothered.

You need to question the motivation behind his question.

What do you think is prplzl's motivation behind asking that question?


I'm intrested that you find this scummy yet go on to tell someone to think about motivation.

Could you explain to me what motivation scum would have to post this? He seemes to just be drawing attention to himself which i do not think is scummy.

Also @Thebloodydwarf I asked about your vote because random voting is w/e but im under the understanding that it is done to apply pressure. Yet you voted someone who was around and posting and actively trying to produce content with people. This leads me to think that you simply voted to just fit in with other people doing it.


It's scummy because the question is pointless and he asked it just to appear as though he's trying to do something in the game.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:24 GMT
#275
On April 10 2015 08:12 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:06 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:51 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:48 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:17 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Everybody has little scum inside them.

What the bloody hell does this mean?

Come visit me and I'll show you

Are you really hinting your role to me.

Wow this guy is hardcore. He is like failed psychiatrist. Never got his papers out of the university.

I think you.are trying too hard :D


Already using bad logic against me.

Calling me a failed psychiatrist so as to discredit the validity of my posts.


Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:27 GMT
#280
On April 10 2015 08:13 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:04 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:13 Breshke wrote:
Sup guys

This is awkward timing but i'm not sure if him lurking is alignment indicative yet.

On April 10 2015 07:06 Ace1312 wrote:
Yay, game start. I'm excited to read up When I get home from work.



Is there a reason behind this?

On April 10 2015 07:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
##VOTE prplhz



How is that lurking?



He seemed to suddenly appear right after someone placed a vote on him. Even if it isnt a coincidence I don't think its scummy depending on weather he is someone to be intimidated and not know how to enter the thread before that point.

The reason why I think it's not lurking is because he didn't respond to the vote. If he did respond to the vote it would mean that he was reading the thread but hasn't made any post. Thus he would be lurking.

On the contrary, his opening post is acknowledging that the game started, suggesting that he just checked teamliquid to see if the game started and it did, then commented that he will be posting once he gets home.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:30 GMT
#281
On April 10 2015 08:19 prplhz wrote:
so soren333 where did you play mafia before?


Myanimelist

Mafiascum

And I also played one game on teamliquid before.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:32 GMT
#284
On April 10 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:22 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:11 Breshke wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:46 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

You're kidding me. That's scummy as hell.

What kind of person says "oh hey guys huehuehue I might or might not be scum derp".

Vote: prplhz

On April 10 2015 07:50 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:19 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:16 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote:
That said, what do you think of prplhz's comment?


EBWOP at Bourneq - specifically this:

On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Sorry again the phone..
It does not help me gain any information of any kind so I am not bothered.

You need to question the motivation behind his question.

What do you think is prplzl's motivation behind asking that question?


I'm intrested that you find this scummy yet go on to tell someone to think about motivation.

Could you explain to me what motivation scum would have to post this? He seemes to just be drawing attention to himself which i do not think is scummy.

Also @Thebloodydwarf I asked about your vote because random voting is w/e but im under the understanding that it is done to apply pressure. Yet you voted someone who was around and posting and actively trying to produce content with people. This leads me to think that you simply voted to just fit in with other people doing it.


It's scummy because the question is pointless and he asked it just to appear as though he's trying to do something in the game.


Do you not think he actually achieved doing something? He seemed to be trying to drive conversation forward. Yes the question in itself doesn't actually scumhunt but making conversation does so i don't see it as pointless.

I like your vote on dwarf thought and think it is weird that he picked prplhz to random vote out of everyone and would still like to hear any reasoning he has for that.


Ok I'll agree that it isn't entirely pointless and it does drive discussion. But it's driving discussion in the wrong direction. Which means were going to be wasting time answering his question. Which is pretty scummy.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:49 GMT
#291
On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^

100% town?

The only way anyone right now that can be 100% certain that someone is town is if they are mafia.

Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:50 GMT
#292
On April 10 2015 08:34 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:27 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:13 Breshke wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:04 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:13 Breshke wrote:
Sup guys

This is awkward timing but i'm not sure if him lurking is alignment indicative yet.

On April 10 2015 07:06 Ace1312 wrote:
Yay, game start. I'm excited to read up When I get home from work.



Is there a reason behind this?

On April 10 2015 07:07 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
##VOTE prplhz



How is that lurking?



He seemed to suddenly appear right after someone placed a vote on him. Even if it isnt a coincidence I don't think its scummy depending on weather he is someone to be intimidated and not know how to enter the thread before that point.

The reason why I think it's not lurking is because he didn't respond to the vote. If he did respond to the vote it would mean that he was reading the thread but hasn't made any post. Thus he would be lurking.

On the contrary, his opening post is acknowledging that the game started, suggesting that he just checked teamliquid to see if the game started and it did, then commented that he will be posting once he gets home.


I get it could be a coincidence with his arrival in the thread. I also don't think that coming out of lurking at the very start of the game is necessarily alignment indicative when you are a new player.

Basically I don't care anymore with it was lurking or not because ive decided it isn't alignment indicative because i think as a new player no matter of alignment a vote being placed on you would make you post in the thread.



I like that you're not pursuing this any further because it's not alignment indicative. Therefore town read.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 09 2015 23:52 GMT
#296
On April 10 2015 08:40 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 08:32 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:25 Breshke wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:22 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:11 Breshke wrote:
On April 10 2015 07:46 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

You're kidding me. That's scummy as hell.

What kind of person says "oh hey guys huehuehue I might or might not be scum derp".

Vote: prplhz

On April 10 2015 07:50 Soren333 wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:19 Bourneq wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:16 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 06:14 Half the Sky wrote:
That said, what do you think of prplhz's comment?


EBWOP at Bourneq - specifically this:

On April 10 2015 06:06 prplhz wrote:
i might or might not be scum

any thoughts?

Sorry again the phone..
It does not help me gain any information of any kind so I am not bothered.

You need to question the motivation behind his question.

What do you think is prplzl's motivation behind asking that question?


I'm intrested that you find this scummy yet go on to tell someone to think about motivation.

Could you explain to me what motivation scum would have to post this? He seemes to just be drawing attention to himself which i do not think is scummy.

Also @Thebloodydwarf I asked about your vote because random voting is w/e but im under the understanding that it is done to apply pressure. Yet you voted someone who was around and posting and actively trying to produce content with people. This leads me to think that you simply voted to just fit in with other people doing it.


It's scummy because the question is pointless and he asked it just to appear as though he's trying to do something in the game.


Do you not think he actually achieved doing something? He seemed to be trying to drive conversation forward. Yes the question in itself doesn't actually scumhunt but making conversation does so i don't see it as pointless.

I like your vote on dwarf thought and think it is weird that he picked prplhz to random vote out of everyone and would still like to hear any reasoning he has for that.


Ok I'll agree that it isn't entirely pointless and it does drive discussion. But it's driving discussion in the wrong direction. Which means were going to be wasting time answering his question. Which is pretty scummy.


I see this differently to you. It was the start of the day any conversation is useful. In a 48 hour phase i feel it is hard to waste time.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 06:08 prplhz wrote:
i'm around why not talk to me

seriously everybody hates me and i haven't a clue why am i reallly such a horrible person


I feel with this follow up post it shows that he was actually trying to get conversation going and was disappointing when no one seemed interested in interacting with him.


Whether 48 hours is a lot of time is debatable. It just all depends on the activity of players. Mafiascum can have like 25 days phase length for a day phase. And majority of players only post once or a few times a day there. Anyways, teamliquid has a very active mafia community so Im not too worried about activity here.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 00:04 GMT
#302
Thoughts on TheBloodyDwarf guys?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 10:45 GMT
#460
On April 10 2015 09:39 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Re Soren's TR, I'm getting that tryhard attitude from him, and despite him potentially misreading some of the newbs because they are newbs, he's coming across tryhard enough to not really have an agenda.

Is try hard a bad or good thing?

What do you mean by not having an agenda?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:07 GMT
#461
On April 10 2015 09:55 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 09:48 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:40 Bourneq wrote:
Whats with the scumread on me? And prplhz is trying to lynch me so why do you think we are both scum?


Before I AFKed, I didn't like your paralysis. I know you are extremely new to mafia (and I took this into account) so I tried to work with you on why you didn't think prp's comment drew no emotion. The "forum context" response I could not tell whether it was sarcasm or intentional evasion so I further questioned you and I get this:

On April 10 2015 06:33 Bourneq wrote:
It did not make me think anything. Now that you ask it seems he is at least trying to start a discussion.


The problem I have with this is you are telling me what he is doing and not so much how it makes you feel as far his alignment is concerned. I realise maybe I'm hard to understand at times - not a native speaker here either - so I'm trying to spell things out as much as I can.

Bussing has been a thing in D1 amongst scumteams lately. It's possible you both are scum.

Well to explain the "paralysis" like I said I was in the middle of a movie at the time and just posted to say hi. I was going to wait to delve deeper into the game for an hour to finnish the movie. I geniunly did not understand what you meant by "tone" but I realise now it was obviously not the tone of his voice. That did make me look pretty stupid I agree but I dont understand why that makes me mafia. The tone of "I could be mafia and I could not be, any thoughts?" too me is: Hello im mafia wanting to blend in. But since I am so new at this I am scared to draw conclusions and I udnerstand why that could look suspicious.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh so now you start to talk about the tone. Why did it take two thousand posts before you spoke up?

Too scared to draw conclusions? Only mafias have to be scared and/or careful with what they post in the game.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:09 GMT
#462
On April 10 2015 10:07 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 09:31 prplhz wrote:
On April 10 2015 09:28 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:12 Onegu wrote:
My point was he made the post to clairfy before you made that post. He votes talks about something then clairifies why he voted ace. Then you asked him the question.


I like this observation from Onegu, and his filter in general so far. His claiming VT is something he routinely does as town. Townlean (and partially based on meta).

1 the observation was incorrect
2 he just claimed town in mini mafia xxx and he was scum



I claimed VT there and here only claimed town as far as you know, big difference until I do it as mafia also...


Regardless, claiming town offers nothing at all.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:10 GMT
#463
On April 10 2015 10:11 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 10:10 Onegu wrote:
And I stopped claiming VT now I'm just claiming town. Completely different people comeon


How do we know you don't always claim town as mafia if this is a new thing

I like the act of pushing. But this actual push is bad.
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:13 GMT
#464
On April 10 2015 10:18 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 10:13 rsoultin wrote:
On April 10 2015 10:10 Onegu wrote:
And I stopped claiming VT now I'm just claiming town. Completely different people comeon


xP

my point is more interesting than this

y so serious, onegu?



Ok from now on I'm going to put + Show Spoiler +
sarcasm
when it sarcasm...

What the fuck.

So you're saying that your post was sarcasm?

What the bloody fuck
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:18 GMT
#465
On April 10 2015 12:59 Tubesock wrote:
Anyone still around?

Breshke and Soren are my town reads so far.

BloodyDwarf still scummy till he produces. He is boarderline too scummy to be scum but most his posts make me itch. And not in the good way.

##Vote:TheBloodyDwarf

Plotspot I'm trying to read but I just don't understand a couple of his posts. Like several other people I'm wondering how he towned Prplhz so fast. I could be twitchy too since it seems in many games the mafia like to insult to convey passion or whatever (Plot calling Onegu a fucktard).

What's the town read on bresh?
Soren333
Profile Joined March 2015
164 Posts
April 10 2015 11:25 GMT
#468
On April 10 2015 14:49 jarjarbinks wrote:
Initial reads based on first readthrough.

My limited gameplay tells me to make sure we don't forget about Ace. There always seems to be a lurker on the mafia team. That being given you could throw me in that category too. He provided enough information to provide information, but did he say that much intuitive?

My sister's good at this game so don't town her too fast. Limited prodding at first. Could be because she wasn't around to prod early game though lol

Sorren's prodded the most and gotten the most cred for it so it seems.

HTS has been in here off an on and seems like she's pretty active and making reads. Her reads kind of align with vet skill at the time though, at least her town reads.

Dwarf was hilarious. He probably should go like read the rules or something lolz Defense against sorren to me looked like he was butthurt, but not alignment indicative imo. He needs to defend himself though.

More in depth analysis tomorrow after work. Should give you guys plenty of time to see if any of your reads match up with what I come up with tomorrow.

Quick go over of plot (bothered me the most but was confusing). Post thoughts in a sec.


Your sister?
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