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On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf.
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On April 14 2015 13:42 jarjarbinks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:32 rsoultin wrote:
5pm your time pretty sure jjb
question for when you get back:
why is hts so low given your assessment of her? lol Did my assessment seem that nice? I think there was some points to scum her, they just didn't make up the strongest case and her later posts probably made up some ground. I'm still not sure I believe why she switched votes. She was still in that group of people not really being read at all and her better cases were after she was being voted on, granted she can't do much about that. Sometimes it seemed she was stretching it a bit too, like her case on tube. It looked like she was spinning the case while leaving out information that severely weakened her case. Still she's higher than she was before I checked her thanks for the help. Maybe i'll get lucky and can get on my phone after work before 5.
heh alright lol yeah i think you left some of that out in your reads list
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On April 14 2015 13:43 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:26 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:21 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 13:17 Tubesock wrote:On April 14 2015 13:10 Trfel wrote:
I agree that The Shining/Ace1312's slot doesn't look very good, but that's mostly for activity. I'm ignoring it for now.
At the same time, I almost wonder if he could have an easier time jumping into the thread if he is scum? Scum replacements don't really have to read the thread, they can sort of make stuff up and hope to get by. Especially in a newbie game. Obviously that isn't a very effective way to play, but many people claim to play scum without reading the thread. I don't think I agree with this at all. People are asking you stuff since you're here. If he showed up people will be asking him stuff too. In my 2nd game a newbie (I don't remember the name of it, but you were nightkilled N1 trfel in it) There was a replacement scum Scott1313371234123541235 for Gumdrops. Gum made 2 posts and was replaced. Scott's entrance was a thread sentiment list post with nice little links to the post for each player that expressed his read. He HAD to show us he read the thread and was eventually caught up. He would have died right then. Same with you, you HAVE to show you've read town or mafia. Like, you get leeway but not a pardon. xP that doesn't tell me what you think about shining lol and whether you agree or not, some players don't read the thread as scum, or at least claim they don't. whether it's good play or not doesn't really matter? unless this argument has any bearing on shining's alignment i don't see why we're discussing it again -_- ha forgot that part. I liked the little content he had, but yeah why hasn't he produced like he said he would? How long do we give these lurker players to be town? Why does it feel like town is just eating town right now?If we are going to lynch a lurker type player, I want to kill Dwarf. ?? I just have weird bad feelings. I just think with like 5 lurkers about how angry I'm going to be if we have 3 lurker mafias who thought Soren was the towniest player so NK his slot but HF enters and the rest of us are like "holy shit obviously a vet is on the mafia team!" I missed it, you voting Shining?
nah, ise being mysterious!
(see prp now you have to townread me xP)
if you put a gun to my head and said pick your lurker lynch, though, i think shining has a higher probability of flipping scum than bourneq (based mostly on the townie posts i posted earlier) and dwarf (i don't get the hard townread really, but i do still get that floundering newbie feel from him lol ><)
shining just...okay it always bugs me when people promise things then don't deliver, plus i know for a fact being lurkery is part of how he plays scum. like the difference between the newbie games i played with him (i can look up the numbers if you want them) and student V where he was scum was pretty much night and day lol ><
outside the lurkers, still weighing half-the-sky and bresh honestly...his day 1 was pretty damn good and maybe it's just cause he kept disagreeing with me lol >< but it just seems like he hasn't brought much to day 2 at all
beyond that, stutters' close-to-the-vest play is getting less interesting and more aggravating (in b4 this becomes about the potential blue soft), again probably because the one thing he's really pushing (prp) i don't agree with ><
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On April 14 2015 14:00 Trfel wrote:
So far, I'm not impressed with TheBloodyDwarf at all. His play is clearly not towny, there is no question of that. I guess I could see him being a stubborn SC2 Mafia player who is new to a forum mafia environment. But then, he clearly stated, in bold, that this isn't SC2 mafia. From there, I expected to see him attempting to play the forum mafia style (not necessarily succeeding, just attempting). And I haven't seen that at all yet.
His late vote without explanation pushed him from null to scum lean.
My current lynch pool is as follows (no particular order):
TheBloodyDwarf, Stutters695, The Shining, and Bourneq
meh lurkers with a side of short filter lol ><
seems too easy. but then...i dunnae the lurkers always seem to get me. i did it with oats in the Game that Shall not be Named...and i did it in my first game here
so i assume this means you agree with tube that the scumteam doesn't seem to have a presence in the thread right now?
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On April 14 2015 14:04 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I don't like The Shining's entrance at all. Which is weird, because everyone else seemed to.
are you referring to his literal entrance post?
because i was referring to the reads/analysis he started making once he'd actually read part of the thread lol ><
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On April 14 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot
##Unvote
##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_- So I don't really get anything out of the first two posts but the first one is fairly hard for me tor ead because of formatting. (this is important later). The last post you have a good point about like he actually does seem to be thinking critically about the game and prps alignment. Another thing that makes me think bourne probably might actually be town is the difference in formatting between his first post that rso quoted and the last. The last is actually far more easy to read and improving your formatting to make your posts easier to read seems very townie to me because town actually wants people to read their posts where as scum is fine to be glossed over kind of. I don't actually think i want to lynch bourne today
<3!
lol sorry but your "no bad rso bad hts read" followed by sheeping what i perceived to be thread sentiment on bourne was giving me the willies. i expect more from you lol >< this makes me feel better about you (and not just cause you're agreeing with me)
i don't think you ever answered why you're so certain on hts being town, though?
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On April 14 2015 14:11 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:06 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 14:00 Trfel wrote:
So far, I'm not impressed with TheBloodyDwarf at all. His play is clearly not towny, there is no question of that. I guess I could see him being a stubborn SC2 Mafia player who is new to a forum mafia environment. But then, he clearly stated, in bold, that this isn't SC2 mafia. From there, I expected to see him attempting to play the forum mafia style (not necessarily succeeding, just attempting). And I haven't seen that at all yet.
His late vote without explanation pushed him from null to scum lean.
My current lynch pool is as follows (no particular order):
TheBloodyDwarf, Stutters695, The Shining, and Bourneq meh lurkers with a side of short filter lol >< seems too easy. but then...i dunnae the lurkers always seem to get me. i did it with oats in the Game that Shall not be Named...and i did it in my first game here so i assume this means you agree with tube that the scumteam doesn't seem to have a presence in the thread right now? Not necessarily. I'm not calling out a scum team, I'm calling my lynch pool. It's a distinct possibility that at least one of the mafia is very active, just at this moment I don't want to lynch an active player. Maybe that will change by EOD, maybe not, it depends on information. I have a poor record as of late with calling out multiple scum at once and guessing the scum thread presence, so I'm not going to try if I can help it (I probably will soon enough anyway). Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:07 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 14:04 Trfel wrote:
Hm, I don't like The Shining's entrance at all. Which is weird, because everyone else seemed to. are you referring to his literal entrance post? because i was referring to the reads/analysis he started making once he'd actually read part of the thread lol >< I refer to his first series of posts, in which he gives reads on every player.
mmmm
i should probably take another look at that o.0 i didn't realize he read all of the players? i was mostly just fine with him making reads at all since he'd just replaced in >< lol
in the morning, though...getting kinda tired :/
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yeah the asking you if you'd claimed scum bit was what really caught my attention...i didn't realize how absent he'd been until i went back through his filter lol ><
that's also one of the things niggling at me about stutters lol >< like i have no clue how he didn't read that as a joke post? and then asking you what you think about the case on the guy you replaced in for is just ridiculous...like you're supposed to defend what someone else was thinking at the time he posted those posts xP
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i guess there's always the possibility that i just pick up you're joking cause i'm more used to your humor though lol >< you do tend to be mostly serious in mafia games. the questioning about hts' onegu case is still asinine regardless
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On April 14 2015 14:19 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:On April 14 2015 14:07 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:08 rsoultin wrote:the analysis on plotspot was actually pretty good (if wrong), and this isn't the first time he mentions "bunnying" up posts lol On April 11 2015 02:25 Bourneq wrote:On April 11 2015 01:40 Tubesock wrote:On April 11 2015 01:11 Bourneq wrote:
here comes my reads
Stutters is extremely suspicious too me seeing he has next to no activity in the game what so ever.
I am getting generaly good vibes from Breshke, he has been actively driving the conversation in reasonable directions judging by his filter. I dont like him calling dwarf lynchbait and still sticking with his vote however.
Onegus attitude puzzles me. Saying he is not going to tryhard and just going to try to troll and have fun makes me think; mafia wanting to look town but his other posts have not given me mafia vibes so I am unsure here.
rsoultin is annoying me with his emoticons lol. And calling people retarded is just retarded. Either tryhard mafia or not trying very hard town.
Hts looks really town too me but I thinks he is one of the veterans so she could be playing a really good mafia. I would put my money on town for now.
prpl is looking more and more scum to me. It was resonable to jump on me after my first few comments since they were weak but I have given my reasons and continuing with this crusade makes me belive he is scheming. I am certinatly the easiest target to harras given my inexperiance and poor response at the beginning of day 1.
Plotspot is screaming scum to me but I am looking forward to what he has to say when he gets back from work or whatever his excuse was.
jarjar could be mafia throwing reads about early to get in the good book but at the same time I have not seen enough from him to make any quick judgements so I would not place him in either alignment.
Ace is extremely quiet and this makes me think mafia. If not mafia then a town not contributing. Either way he is high up on lynch list for me untill he makes his voice heard.
Soren333 is looking very town too me. I like his resoning.
I like the few posts from Tubesock but would like to hear more.
I really like TBD's explenation of his behaviour but not reading the OP is really reckless and I would like fellow towns to know the rules and the pace of the game. But tbd seems as new as me at this so I will tread carefully here.
Boy that took a long time to write up. As for myself I have been playing poorly even if I was scum or town. I have already posted my excuse but at least it has given me some insight into who draws what conclusion from what I have said. Some conclusions are way more reasonable than others. I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. I'm not sure about Onegu either. But I think he's worth keeping around for a couple days as he will likely do something that will town/mafia him. Rsoultin was caught as scum a few games ago because her emoticon to words ratio was too low, so this cracks me up. Now you're scumming her for too high of a ratio. Ignoring emoticons and her use of the word "retarded" don't you think she's being more productive than most in the game? She's town. Agree on HTS. She has a few town posts, but again, I'm afraid of her. Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS. I do think it's weird he's so tunnelled on you. Haven't decided if that's mafia motivated or not. But my next point: Why is Plotspot SCREAMING scum to you? But you're not articulating it? Stuff like that makes Prplhz think you are scum. I liked Jarjar's posts too. I've been meaning to ask him if he's still using his algorithm (something I misslynched him for in my only game with him). Ace needs to step up. His giant posts basically said nothing but "don't kill me". He's my Dwarf alternate. He has a day to bleed town. So far I'm picking from these two. I've already spoken about the rest. "I agree Breshke is town. I'm missing something with the scum for waffling bit. I am towning him for that specifically, so I'd like feedback on why that could be wrong. " I geniunly dont know what waffling is so I would love to know that before I answer. regarding Rsoultin I have no clue about what people have done in past games, I have not taken part in any of them. Any emoticons are too me trying to "fluff and bunny up" your post so thats why I said that. I would not read into it too much I am not that naive. I am also afraid of hts. "Prplhz. I'm nully town. You actually brought up some good points but it is pretty tainted with OMGUS" Im reading OMGUS as me being defensive. It would problably have been more productive to just ignore it in hindsight but I felt it was so unjustified that I got suprised. I understand it looked weird me being a bit cagey at the start how ever but I did state before I even got into the game that I was in the middle of a movie and on my phone. Thats why I did not want to start a big ordeal and came off as just dodging attention or whatever. From reading plotspots filter a few things stand out to me.
"Since the rules states I have to vote, and I can't decide, I vote alphabetically."
"ROFL. You might as well be mafia seeing an opportunity to jump on him. haha" - trying to ridicule somebody to discredit them.
"He's playing like a fucktard."
I count 3 "^^" - bunnying his sentances
But his last post - "Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended." Calmed me down a bit and I am really interested in what he will bring to the table.
I would of chosen another word than screaming scum but I have only liked one of his posts so far so I was at least feeling him as mafia. i actually 100% agree with this post? xP like, i read it as prp trying to get discussion going, but prp your attempt was so blatant i don't see how you expected anyone to get a read on you from it? unless you expected a townread or something lol and saying something "to generate discussion" when it's that obvious i not alignment indicative for me (just ask trfel) so i see no problem with others feeling the same way, obviously On April 10 2015 08:32 Bourneq wrote:On April 10 2015 06:24 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Bourneq On April 10 2015 06:25 prplhz wrote:
because of his non committal stance on me The fact that you wrote a fairly pointless sentance stating nothing and then following it up with a question what we think about you not stating anything makes me belive you are either a maffia trying to blend in by drawing attention to yourself so we would think you are not maffia since that would be stupid if you did that as maffia. OR you're a town trying to get a discussion going to give us more information. But voting for me to be lynched out of me not making any quick judgements on you seems harsh and a stupid thing to do as town. some of these points were clearly his misreading, for instance the omgus one, but lol i get where he's coming from on the dropped reads and you being so insistent on your bloody dwarf read xP i don't think these were bad points and i can see newbie town making them and coming to that conclusion On April 11 2015 22:30 Bourneq wrote:On to my prplhz read. At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it. This also bugs me On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign
maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him How can TBD be anybodys top town read? On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky This just seemed really unmotivated. On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot
##Unvote
##Vote plotspot Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart? On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.
He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum. On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum
he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me? i guess what it comes down to for me is on the spectrum of newbies bourne was more actively in the thread and analyzing than the others? lol i'll admit i wasn't really placing my expectations that high for some of the newer players, but i didn't see how he was worse than plotspot or...yes...dwarf xP who still has practically no reads -_- So I don't really get anything out of the first two posts but the first one is fairly hard for me tor ead because of formatting. (this is important later). The last post you have a good point about like he actually does seem to be thinking critically about the game and prps alignment. Another thing that makes me think bourne probably might actually be town is the difference in formatting between his first post that rso quoted and the last. The last is actually far more easy to read and improving your formatting to make your posts easier to read seems very townie to me because town actually wants people to read their posts where as scum is fine to be glossed over kind of. I don't actually think i want to lynch bourne today <3! lol sorry but your "no bad rso bad hts read" followed by sheeping what i perceived to be thread sentiment on bourne was giving me the willies. i expect more from you lol >< this makes me feel better about you (and not just cause you're agreeing with me) i don't think you ever answered why you're so certain on hts being town, though? Honestly not sure. I think its because like I felt the reasons you guys were pushing to make her scum didn't make her scum. That coupled with the fact that I felt like she actually tried to make me take my vote off of a town gives me good vibes. Typing this out makes me wonder why I was so certain but at the same time i still think she is town? I guess its a gut read.
heh i still don't understand how you read her post as her actively trying to get you to change your vote when it was clearly responding to your question on why there were shenanigans >< and she didn't even take a stance between the two players in it
but i guess if it's a gut read there's really nothing to say about it :/
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On April 14 2015 14:37 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 14:00 Trfel wrote:
So far, I'm not impressed with TheBloodyDwarf at all. His play is clearly not towny, there is no question of that. I guess I could see him being a stubborn SC2 Mafia player who is new to a forum mafia environment. But then, he clearly stated, in bold, that this isn't SC2 mafia. From there, I expected to see him attempting to play the forum mafia style (not necessarily succeeding, just attempting). And I haven't seen that at all yet.
His late vote without explanation pushed him from null to scum lean.
My current lynch pool is as follows (no particular order):
TheBloodyDwarf, Stutters695, The Shining, and Bourneq Is this guy scum? I really want to lynch him.
probably not, but first, why do you want to lynch him? lol
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lol i can get on board with that bresh
##vote: The Shining
may or may not be a placeholder though :0 the mystery thickens!
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meh bresh beginning not to care about what's keeping you from voting stutters btw lol >< cause it's probably bullshit
prp, i'm clinging to the idea that you're town almost with the same tenacity as you're clinging to tbd and bresh is to hts, but dude wtf are you doing this day phase? -_-
what did stutters say that you liked hts? i get the "well it could be plausible" bit but is that really it?
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On April 14 2015 23:58 Half the Sky wrote:
Breshke, I'll be honest, considering the two posts you just quoted, I can actually logically imply why Stutters posted what he did in the second quote based on his observation and opinion of Tube's post, but if you're still not clear, maybe asking for clarification might help.
My issue personally with Trfel's post is that D2 is a bit too premature to conclude the entire scumteam is inactive. Now I don't think he's PoEed everyone else yet, from what I recall, I believe it's a result of whoever he's rated the lowest in his latest page of analysis.
It is possible and it has certainly happened, but given the nature of scumteams on TL on average, it is unlikely. It IS likely there's one lurker, possibly two on a three-person scumteam, but all three being inactive would be extremely rare.
I also know that from talking with Kitaman when we have cohosted the last newbie game, inactivity amongst newbies is fairly common regardless of alignment, so (not sure if you were in thread) exercise extreme caution before voting someone down solely for inactivity, especially a newbie in a newbie game. Like I said before, I feel that blue(s) should be the ones investigating that throughout the game and resolving only lategame (D4 or later IMO).
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lol >< very preachy and sweet but if you haven't noticed we've got 3-4 lurkers, so unless you have someone scummy you'd rather "vote down"?
also he directly said it wasn't for inactivity so...sermon unnecessary
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lolol ><
tempted to jump up and down, put on a clown nose and stand on my head if it'll get you to engage with me hts xP
and that would look hella strange cause i can't stand on my head :/
you've cased...tube, onegu(trfel), bourne and the 1 of 3 is making me go ;o; about not seeing a third lol who i'm assuming is stutters. i kinda agree with (my bro i think it was?) that some of those cases look stretched, but that's neither here nor there at the moment. who do you actually want to lynch?
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alright, i'll give you some time then lol ><
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meh i kinda want to lynch stutters not gonna lie -_-
which is why i keep asking you why you don't
i just...meh i had the same problem with soren who flipped town but lol >< the one-liners with no explanation is bugging the shit out of me. he says he doesn't like day 1. okay fine and fair enough. it's day 2 now
stutters why is it so difficult to say why you don't like truffle's post?
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On April 15 2015 00:42 Half the Sky wrote:Rasputin, so you can understand me a bit better, this is the quote I take issue with: Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 12:53 Trfel wrote:
I'm pretty confident that prplhz is town here. I've read Stutters695's arguments (or at least, the posts that I believe he is referring to) and I don't find them to be all that convincing.
He's being forceful, active, and his reads have generally been good. I don't normally see all three of these traits at once from a town prplhz, so I doubt even more that he would play like this as mafia.
I can demonstrate this if necessary, but at this time I don't think that it is necessary. And prplhz can speak for himself. I'm doublechecking 1) how forceful he was and 2) the bases for his reads. When you three voted me D2, you I know believed your case against me, like your tone felt genuine, but I recall prplhz being like "I can roll with that" or something similar when he followed with his vote, so I'm backtracking to see how he progressed on other people. The other thing that doesn't add up for me is that he was hard defending Dwarf but openly telling him to be more useful. I'm sure I recall that somewhere. That just felt strange to me.
i agree that prp has fallen off but lol >< bah
i guess i'll just reread him. i was getting a strong town feel from him day 1, and i actually agree with truffle's post in the context of day 1...not so much afterwards
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On April 15 2015 00:53 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 23:58 Half the Sky wrote:
My issue personally with Trfel's post is that D2 is a bit too premature to conclude the entire scumteam is inactive. Now I don't think he's PoEed everyone else yet, from what I recall, I believe it's a result of whoever he's rated the lowest in his latest page of analysis.
It is possible and it has certainly happened, but given the nature of scumteams on TL on average, it is unlikely. It IS likely there's one lurker, possibly two on a three-person scumteam, but all three being inactive would be extremely rare. Again, I never said this at all... I have said that all of the people that I am currently thinking of lynching are less active. I'm not good enough to call out the scum team at this point in the game, you know that. I go lynch by lynch. Anyway, it seems that people don't really want to lynch Stutters695 today, so I suppose I will accept that. The Shining looks like a fair target, but I'll take another look at Bourneq and TheBloodyDwarf.
i want to lynch stutters xD
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actually lol rereading his filter i don't. looks more like someone trying to push his lynch than someone withholding reads. the pressure on prp looks pretty solid to me :/
meh i hate policy lynches on principle too, hts lol ><
gonna filter prp and tube again i guess :/ tube mostly cause i kinda ignored him after his tinfoil
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