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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Trfel
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On April 17 2015 01:35 prplhz wrote: Nope. I'll lynch rsoultin if you convince me that rsoultin is scum.trfel if i convince you that i am town will you lynch rso today? Because rsoultin (if she is scum) is probably the hardest player to catch, I'm not very interested in catching her today. If I conclude that she is town (which I currently consider fairly likely), I wouldn't have the time to do much else at all. Therefore, I would prefer to look at other scum and look at rsoultin more closely tomorrow. There are two situations which would lead me to lynch rsoultin first. One is no-lynching, such that I have time to look into it properly. Another is if someone else provides strong evidence that rsoultin is scum. | ||
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prplhz
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Trfel
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On April 17 2015 01:42 prplhz wrote: I am not really sure yet. There seem to be a lot of people who want to lynch you. It really depends on your filter and your meta.okay who the fuck will you lynch then if you wont lynch me? will you just lynch jjb then bourneq and then me? because if i'm going to get lynched i prefer it being today. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
marv made some town analysis on me last time, he frames it as meta but it's generally just town traits that i exhibit (and painfully so). here rso/jjb/bourneq | ||
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prplhz
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Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
I am not scum, I have done nothing but tell the truth the entire game, sometimes I get it wrong but that is simply because this is my first game and I am having a hard time keeping up. I have been doing my best but sometimes my lack of posting has simply been down to not being familiar enough with the game to feel confident in my suspicions. Now that there are so few people left I feel I can say with some certianty who the scums are. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
FACT: i was the main opposition to the plot lynch. FACT: i was the main opposition to the dwarf lynch. FACT: if your scum team has me and bourneq i have been pushing my newbie teammate all game long from his very first post. FACT: these are objectively the towniest things anybody in this thread have done. and they're all me. breshke has come close with some of his analysis. FACT: if you mislynch me here that's NOT GOING TO BE NOMINATED FOR A MAFIA AWARD | ||
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prplhz
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prplhz
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rso/jjb/bourneq | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Later tonight I should have more time to play the game. I will do my best to prove my alignment (through my scumhunting) and to catch the scum. I'm looking forward to it quite a bit. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 17 2015 02:34 Trfel wrote: I'm well aware that as of late, my play has been extremely disappointing and quite poor. And for that I apologize. Later tonight I should have more time to play the game. I will do my best to prove my alignment (through my scumhunting) and to catch the scum. I'm looking forward to it quite a bit. why do you say this while talking to a guy who is calling you town | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
i don't understand your approach here at all. it's MYLO, you have 3 people you think are scum but you want to go head-to-head with the most difficult and most townread of the 3? lol >< how does that make any sense. as either alignment really, which is why i'm having so much trouble with it -_- you do realize if i accepted and we went head-to-head 100% you get lynched today, right? this is ridiculous >< explain to me your scumreads on jjb and bourne, and why it matters which of your scumreads you kill first, hm? i have one (and only one) good reason floating in my mind for you doing this (plus a couple bad ones) if you're town, but i want to hear it from you rather than hand it to you | ||
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prplhz
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Tubesock
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is mafia. I think his actions so far in the game show mafia intent. I want you guys to reread Breshke again. 1. Vote progression Day 1. I already linked the Day 1 final vote. Note he voted TBD, says well maybe he's lynchbait, then parks his vote on Plotspot who was also lynchbait. This could be towny. Add this up to the rest of his actions though. While town!Breshke is capable of this so is Breshke. 2. Vote Progression Day 2. Removed votes on The Shining and Stutters695 and ends up on Prplhz because that's + Show Spoiler [what he would have wanted] + On April 15 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote: So i want to explain my EoD actions because not many people seem to be understanding. There was three wagons. Shining, who i think is scum Prp, who i was null town leanish/hadn't looked into much since D1 TBD who I had no diea about. It was obvious to me that the shining misslynch was not going to go through. The only person whow anted it in the thread as much as i did was trefel. After realising i would not get the lynch i wanted i assessed the other two wagons. Rso and shining were both voting on TBD. If shining is scum RSo is most likely his partner because the way is ee it she stopped im from getting lynched EoD. That coupled with the fact with how fast she flipped her read on me while seemingly calling me town all game leads me to think they are both scum. This lead me to the conclusion that i would rather lynch Prp than dwarf because if shining and rso are scum they would not BOTH be voting their scum partner TBD therefore it would be more likely that prp was scum than TBD I honestly don't know where the bolded part has come from but I want you to know whatever your alignment and whatever my allighnment this is not how i was trying to come across to you. I hoenstly did not think you would get enough votes on me and i was having a hard enough time actually finding someone i thought was scum after i flipped on bourne so i wasn't interested in trying to defend myself with like half an hour left when i felt it wasnt necessary and there was more important things to do. Interesting post. He has demonstrated that he was scumming Shining for reasons. The weird thing though is he was also "scumming" Rsoultin for basically for: On April 15 2015 05:28 Breshke wrote: RSO could easily be scum here for thinking i was town enough to vote shining straight after i do.basically cheerleadering.me then trying to wagon me with shining when she thinks i.womt rock up(won't wake up??). But later Rso posts quite a few quotes where she says she's scumming him. So, uh it's not like he's reading the thread that well. Or misrepresenting it. So is this a reason to scum her AND also vote to kill a townlean over a "I have no idea on"? He knows both Prplhz and TheBloodyDwarf are town. How careful does Breshke have to be? This looks like scum keeping his excuses open and his miss lynches available. This is also a great example to show that he isn't really trying to solve the game. 3. Bluehunting Stutters695 + Show Spoiler [Bluehunting] + On April 12 2015 11:28 Stutters695 wrote: Assume I'm town for a second(you'll see why d2). Prpl tries to switch the wagon onto me. From a scum perspective: He mislynches me (I get harder to mislynch as the game goes on generally) On April 13 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote: I am really interested what stutters means by the bolded.. On April 13 2015 14:25 Breshke wrote: Also i kind of want to vote stutters until he explains why we would all understand he was town on D2 because there's no point pretending he didn't say that. Bluehunting again. Apparently, Breshke expected Stutters695 to respond "I'm totes DOC/VET/MEDIC/WHATEVER" but instead got: On April 14 2015 10:33 Stutters695 wrote: Sure have. WIFOM son. Am I blue, am I VT? Who knows, but my posting should make it pretty obvious I'm town. On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote: I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##Unvote What exactly did town!Breshke get from this exchange? What did Breshke get? 4. Setup Speculation + Show Spoiler [RB claim etc] + On April 14 2015 12:25 Breshke wrote: There is no setup with both doc and vet? Idk if im misreading what you mean but there is 1 of vigi/cop and one of vet/medic Im saying because of mafias roleblock im like 85% sure we have a vet. I could go further and say there is probably a vigi aswell but that logic comes down to personal preference and how much they thought HF would be a threat. On April 13 2015 08:36 Breshke wrote: The strangest thing to me is reading sorens filter i don't really get any indication that he might be a role so mafia kind of doesn't care about role hunting? Could mean we have a weaker setup? This further strengthens your points one and kind of three i think that mafia were most worried about HF's possible future reads more than they were worried about anything anyone has been pushing so far. This being said night kill WIFOM is a real thing. Also if you were roleblocked you should 100% tell the thread straight away. Does Town!Breshke gain anything from this? What does Breshke gain? Does this look like someone playing VET? Mafia knows if there is a vet or not. If he's the vet why would town!Breshke bother to see if people are roleblocked? He would KNOW there is no Medic. He thinks mafia will fakeclaim a roleblock and not send it on a town? If they are dumb enough to fakeclaim an RB they are dumb enough to send it on a town. He's doing this to create chaos and disrupt scumhunting. 5. I haven't played much mafia. I'm no expert who can immediately pick out future nightkills or anything but I do have an opinion on how a VET probably wants to play. How you might ask? Being super town so that mafia shoots you. You also have motive to play town enough so VIGI doesn't shoot you. Is Breshke's actions from the mindset of a vet? 6. Breshke is not stupid. There is no question that his fakeclaim vig to vet claim is a hail mary. Town, investigate a bit more please to see if this is a hail mary as town or mafia. Reread Breshke's actions. Do not accept "oh I'm dumb" as an excuse. That's the easiest mafia cop out ever. Do you think his bluehunting lines up with him being Vet? Is he doing that breadcrumbing for a town purpose or mafia purpose. Why wouldn't vet just play super town? He really would think that the other blue would be the only one to catch his hint and not one of the three mafia?? I also think that Breshke was excited this phase because he's been bluehunting all game and now he can finally use whatever his bluehunting scheme was from before. I think he decided that he was going to possibly fakeclaim from early on. This hail mary of his is to seal the deal. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Trfel
7015 Posts
Sorry, but I can't lynch an non-cc'd blue. Breshke is absolutely town unless someone counterclaims. Everything else simply doesn't matter. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 17 2015 02:45 prplhz wrote: why do you say this while talking to a guy who is calling you town Interesting isn't it? Have you reread him? Like looked at the stuff he's analyzed? Does any of it seem "off"? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 17 2015 02:51 prplhz wrote: because i don't want to sit around for days waiting to get mislynched so, essentially, you chose me to suicide against >< lol, do you even believe i'm scum? cause i'm gonna be honest with you here, you claiming that you've been scumreading me since onegu's promise of a case, yet sheeping me when i pushed hts, makes absolutely no sense ^^ neither does what has to be your perspective if you're town, that all the wagons on day 2 were town, yet you think me giving a shit who gets lynched is a scum trait? lol >< or do you think shining could still be scum? your scumread is completely illogical from a town perspective, yet you keep clinging to it more importantly, if you're town and we lynch between the two of us 100% the game ends today >< if you're actually trying to win here you should be trying to lynch the most likely scum, not playing village idiot whatever >< shining's questions last night gave me an idea i'm gonna play with i'll be around if anyone has questions, but don't expect quick answers | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 17 2015 02:57 prplhz wrote: no tube no I'm not finished. I have more coming. Prplhz I just want you to reconsider and read up. Breshke's vet claim could be absolutely true. But don't just discard it. Or at least look into Trfel (and my upcoming thoughts on him) and Bourneq. | ||
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