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rsoultin
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prplhz
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On April 17 2015 03:07 Tubesock wrote: I'm not finished. I have more coming. Prplhz I just want you to reconsider and read up. Breshke's vet claim could be absolutely true. But don't just discard it. Or at least look into Trfel (and my upcoming thoughts on him) and Bourneq. no, i'm done lynching my townreads  | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
Fine lynch Bourneq he's your third right? We can agree on him. That buys us time to reach a consensus and do more investigating. I don't care about the order. ##Unvote ##Vote: Bourneq | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:05 rsoultin wrote: [meh] cause i'm gonna be honest with you here, you claiming that you've been scumreading me since onegu's promise of a case, yet sheeping me when i pushed hts, makes absolutely no sense ^^ [huh?] your scumread is completely illogical from a town perspective, yet you keep clinging to it [meh] i didn't mindlessly sheep you there and suspicion isn't the same as scumread. explain how my scumreads are completely illogical from a town perspective. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:18 Tubesock wrote: Fine lynch Bourneq he's your third right? We can agree on him. That buys us time to reach a consensus and do more investigating. I don't care about the order. ##Unvote ##Vote: Bourneq ##Vote rsoultin we have 28 hours. | ||
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Trfel
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His early posts seem to be more white knighting, and he's providing fewer useful scumreads than I expected. Perhaps it's just confirmation bias, though. When I get out of class, I'll take a look at the rest of it. | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:34 Trfel wrote: Just read over the first page of Tubesock's filter. He actually could be scum here. His early posts seem to be more white knighting, and he's providing fewer useful scumreads than I expected. Perhaps it's just confirmation bias, though. When I get out of class, I'll take a look at the rest of it. why do you make a giant post saying you'll look over me and rso and then you go and look over tube? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
What are our options? Breshke does some hail mary play. Trfel mentions no lynch, oh scratch that let's lynch we can have all the blues out themselves. Why the hurry on knowing the blues? Maybe it's just bad play on my part but I think that making Mafia guess for another day could be a good idea. But this argument isn't important. Prplhz is at least looking in different areas (albeit wrong on Rsoultin). I can see he's reevaluating and thinking about things. And not bluehunting or centering around policy talk. He's pushing a lynch. I was first suspicious of Trfel when Stutters695 posted this: Followed by this: On April 14 2015 14:37 Stutters695 wrote: Is this guy scum? I really want to lynch him. I didn't understand why Stutters695 would say what he did. I didn't really say anything in my post. I was defending The Shining on the weak premise that I didn't think town necessarily had to prove that they read the thread as fast as possible. It wasn't even a real defense, it was simply give the guy some time. Trfel was all up in his ass. I then realized I haven't read Onegu's filter in awhile. I basically dropped it once Trfel started doing his summaries in spoilers. That definitely looked like a ton of work. A little later I noticed something kinda funny. Prplhz and Stutters695 were going at each other for the same reasons. TheBloodyDwarf tinfoils me. The replacements are going at it. It was ironic. I was just getting a nagging feeling that Prplhz and Stutters695 were both town. Trfel I didn't see anything scummy in. He was putting in a lot of work and showing that he was thinking about the game. He was super town. I started to reread Onegu. Half the Sky has a good case on him. I already posted it, it was big I doubt any of you missed it when she posted it. Onegu's "big" contribution is his suspicion of Rsoultin. Which is if you guys bother to look into his filter is because she didn't town him, and Rsoultin can read him better than anyone. She must be mafia. But uh, what happens if HE is mafia? I thought his actions on Breshke, and his eod vote was weird. I attributed it to the drugs. He replaced out, so it's obviously legit. But it also seemed like he wasn't particularly serious about his Breshke vote, and knew that by the time he got back in thread there would be another wagon that will look good to jump on to. Sure enough a "scumclaim". Onegu towned Bourneq for scumming TheBloodyDwarf. On April 10 2015 23:33 Onegu wrote: Prplhz I actually like this post, wouldn't lynch him today for this post Before this Onegu does give Bourneq heat. I think it's safe to "bus" him in this case as Onegu isn't exactly known to be forceful with his lynch targets. Alone this reaction means nothing. But in context.... But you know, he did claim town and not VT so we shouldn't be worried. On April 10 2015 08:20 Onegu wrote: It's my meta if I claimed VT that's when you should look out for me. So, Onegu's play is what Trfel is stuck with. He's smart, he knows he can't explain any of it. The best strategy by far is to compensate for it. He knows that he has a reputation for solid case building and analysis. As town he knows he will get some heat if he doesn't perform. He did a little, but it didn't last very long and he quickly became massively townread for his massive effort. Still. Up to Day 3 there's really nothing. His play looks really towny. HtS and Stutters die. 3 minutes after Day post: On April 16 2015 06:03 Trfel wrote: I figured that Half the Sky would die. But why would the vigilante possibly save their shot? And why would they ever shoot Stutters695? Newbie games are loaded with vigilante targets. Bourneq was far and away the best candidate. Well, we're now at MYLO. I don't even know if we're allowed to mislynch(corrects this to No Lynch)? Pushes No Lynch. Thirty minutes later: On April 16 2015 06:32 Trfel wrote: I guess, part of me is tempted to just go ahead and lynch today now. Don't get me wrong, no lynch is definitely the best play. But lynching feels like it will just speed things up, and I'm not sure how much of a difference it will make. We're kind of dead either way. I can go with whatever people want to do. I also retract my super strong townread on Breshke now. Reread the thread from Day 3 post on. To me I think mafia Trfel has every incentive to post exactly like he is. There is a light at the end of the tunnel for him if we lynch today. This could be a town Trfel too. I read Breshke's and Trfel's interactions together and I can't help to think it looks like a play. Like teamwork. Then I have the revelation. MAFIA CAN ALL WORK ON THE THREAD ANALYSIS THAT TRFEL DID. He's not necessarily the only one doing it. I have played team sports all my life. I can't imagine the mafia team in their own private QT wouldn't coordinate and execute plays. I get many don't, they stay fluid and whatnot but it seems silly to discard that. Trfel could be town. All I ask is reread the guy and think about how a scumTrfel replacement would have to act. How is Day 3 play so far can easily be mafia motivated. He's fully capable of playing this way as mafia and he wants the lynch today. He doesn't think we are going to lynch mafia. | ||
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Tubesock
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:34 Trfel wrote: Just read over the first page of Tubesock's filter. He actually could be scum here. His early posts seem to be more white knighting, and he's providing fewer useful scumreads than I expected. Perhaps it's just confirmation bias, though. When I get out of class, I'll take a look at the rest of it. How much thought have you put into me before this post? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:19 prplhz wrote: i didn't mindlessly sheep you there and suspicion isn't the same as scumread. explain how my scumreads are completely illogical from a town perspective. scumread on me, and i've already explained it ^^ you've said more about how you're town than i'm scum, and couldn't come up with a scum motivation for my play day 2, but you're still pushing it. are you serious? like the only logical way i could be scum for how i played day 2 is if you or shining is scum. shining is the vig. if he's fake-claiming vig and the real one didn't cc might as well gg now so i'm taking that as confirmed town -_- that only leaves you tell me how i'm wrong | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:59 rsoultin wrote: scumread on me, and i've already explained it ^^ you've said more about how you're town than i'm scum, and couldn't come up with a scum motivation for my play day 2, but you're still pushing it. are you serious? like the only logical way i could be scum for how i played day 2 is if you or shining is scum. shining is the vig. if he's fake-claiming vig and the real one didn't cc might as well gg now so i'm taking that as confirmed town -_- that only leaves you tell me how i'm wrong i don't know about this d2 argument you're using, how does d2 conclusively exonerate you? | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 17 2015 03:39 Tubesock wrote: Need a break before I continue with my case on Bourneq and why Rsoultin is town. Bourneq will probably be done later this evening though I do have work I have to actually do. oh hell no >< call me town till the cows come home (it'll make it harder for you to switch later) but i do not need anyone to defend me. i'm town and my filter speaks for itself only eden is allowed to do this and i still hate it from him | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 17 2015 04:01 prplhz wrote: i don't know about this d2 argument you're using, how does d2 conclusively exonerate you? nope lol >< check my filter if you're really town. otherwise i don't give a shit if you think i'm scum and i do anything there but push a blue soft i picked up on you're an idiot or mafia. simple as that ^^ | ||
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prplhz
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On April 17 2015 04:09 rsoultin wrote: nope lol >< check my filter if you're really town. otherwise i don't give a shit if you think i'm scum and i do anything there but push a blue soft i picked up on you're an idiot or mafia. simple as that ^^ you just explained it? didn't you? | ||
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prplhz
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prplhz
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rsoultin
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On April 17 2015 04:19 prplhz wrote: i don't want to be an idiot! i actually thought about this but totally forgot about it. yes it's a town point but it's not that big of a deal because shining wasn't shooting any of you and you weren't shooting him either. lol >< again with the irrationality scum knowing the set-up doesn't mean scum knows shining is telling the truth, nor which blue he was softing >< this is still a stupid-ass point | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
man i made rayn ragequit i hope i don't make rso ragequit too. | ||
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rsoultin
Netherlands15308 Posts
On April 17 2015 04:21 prplhz wrote: can you explain again why you made a big point out of wanting to be right on jjb and then not paying attention to him all game? where exactly did i make a big deal of it? lol >< pretty sure i didn't simply, his early posting was solid and we kept missing each other -_- i also try to joke around with him early cause i know he has trouble with that when he's scum i'm not going to do the work for you. it's not like i didn't interact with him. read my filter | ||
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