TL Mafia LXX: Guardians of the Galaxy

On March 16 2015 05:48 ExO_ wrote:
yo rsoultin what was with your strange tactics towards me in SK mafia.

On March 16 2015 07:11 LightningStrike wrote:
Can I policy lynch ExO and or Tfrel if they don't make a case in the first 48 hours into the game?

On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote:
Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly?

On March 19 2015 09:59 ExO_ wrote:


I think it doesn't make sense from a mafia perspective to post like that. And like immediately out of the gate too. It doesn't really make sense from any other perspective either. But my initial thought is: if you're mafia, your teammates probably are going to be pissed that you did that. So it's much more likely that he's a Town trolling.

I can kinda go down the road of "that's what he wants us to think" but I think that makes things too complicated. So for now I think that makes him town.

But it feels wrong to give somebody town points for coming out of the gate and saying they are scum.

On March 20 2015 03:38 rsoultin wrote:


out of curiosity, have you ever done a myers briggs type test? i ask because i have the feeling our types are the same or very similar...which is all to say that even when i disagree with you when you're town i usually have no trouble at all following your thought process

^ i'd still like an answer to that question out of curiosity xP but more on point:

your sicklucker and superbia scumreads...why?

lol and you're definitely talking to me like you think i'm town so where did that read come from?

On March 20 2015 04:14 ExO_ wrote:
Just woke up. I've skimmed the thread. And afterwards I was left with a huge question:

Where did Eden run off to?

And then I checked his filter and saw this:



His posts threw out (strong) town reads like they were nothing. I didn't like his scum reads. And now he's just going to check out? What is this, get a large filter day 1 and then bow out while everyone else is arguing?

It looks like scum to me. I was hesitant at first, but just deciding you've said enough for day 1 and aren't going to participate for the rest of the day is ridiculous.

##Vote: Eden

On March 20 2015 04:22 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

This is why I hate people playing 2 games at the same time. I don't know if it's alignment indicative for Eden.

On March 20 2015 04:50 ExO_ wrote:


If anything this proves you are reading and here. And call me selfish but I care more about players participating in this game than in other games.

I do think it's a little suspicious how quickly you came back the second you were accused (I guess the other game isn't as interesting as you thought? However I'm aware that I have a tendency to tunnel when I get a read, sometimes very stupidly. So Eden help me out. Other than that OMGUS read on me, who do you think is scum right now?

On March 20 2015 05:31 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Eden chill out bro no need to be extremely mad already this early o.o

On March 20 2015 05:39 ExO_ wrote:


"awesome reads"

None of which you seem willing to give. Because I can't imagine you would classify the very loose shitty reads you gave early on as awesome.

You're still on SickLucker. The reasons you gave early were trash, so I'd like to hear you reiterate your case. Or even better give out some other reads With decent reasoning to back them up.

On March 20 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:


I have read your filter. The reasoning on sick lucker is poor. There aren't any other great scum reads. A lot of strong town reads thrown out though.

Plus, there's been a ton of pages since you've given out any new reads. Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

Can you really offer nothing? Are you going to just throw a tantrum and whine and cry until this passes?

On March 20 2015 05:54 ExO_ wrote:


You don't seem like you're going to offer any new information, no matter how much I press you for it. I'll ask again, feel free to ignore it if you can't come up with an answer:

Has nobody else stuck out in your eyes, so much so that you're going to tunnel that really really bad SL read from the start? Do you really see no scum?

On March 21 2015 04:43 Onegu wrote:



Maybe

On March 21 2015 04:50 ExO_ wrote:



I did kinda ignore your posts at the start. But thats because in like the last 3 mafia games we've played you've randomly been out to get me from the start. That being said, all you were doing is asking me "what do you think?" without every providing specific context for me to answer that question. There's so much crap spewing here in day 1 that there's not a lot I really have to say.

This day 1 has really felt like a crapshoot. I don't like any of the wagons. I don't really like the reasoning for the wagons. And because of it I haven't felt like I've had a lot to say.

On March 21 2015 04:57 ExO_ wrote:
If I had a better read on somebody sure. But the only strong-ish read I had was on Eden and I'm not really as sure as I was yesterday about it. Nobody else seemed even remotely interested in that case. And not to mention his filter is huge and when I called him out he really did start responding. So he's worth keeping around for another day at this point because of how active he is.

Most of the rest of the thread has been silly arguments based on past meta and shit. If I'm speaking honestly, it's very hard to sit down and read just constant back and forth bickering between people and get information out of it.

On March 21 2015 05:07 Trfel wrote:
Why Toadesstern?

On March 21 2015 05:06 Superbia wrote:


What? Rofl. This is the dumbest thing ever. Vig is the WORST thing to claim as mafia. Because other vig will just counterclaim and shoot the mafia.

On March 21 2015 05:18 Superbia wrote:
I think we have the vigis shoot each other, right? This fucks us up so hard if they're both town, but I don't think we should spend lynches on this.

On March 21 2015 05:44 Superbia wrote:
Am I the only one who currently thinks that the most likely scenario is that they're both town?

On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:


CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber.

In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense.

On March 21 2015 05:45 ExO_ wrote:


CCing as vig might be dumb as fuck (though idk if I agree), but CCing vig As mafia is infinitely dumber.

In what world does mafia toad CC vig? It makes 0 sense.

On March 21 2015 05:47 ExO_ wrote:


But Toad isn't getting lynched today if he keeps his mouth shut. That's the difference here. Why even CC, he could easily just back off of Vivax for a day and not die, if he was mafia

On March 21 2015 06:00 Toadesstern wrote:

except that I've been saying that there is no way there are 2 vigs in this game.

I even went ahead and wrote out that you guys should lynch me no matter what if I ever get in this and tell people I fakeclaimed Vig as VT because I'm not doing that. I'm not going to back down on Vivax fakeclaiming either. There are no two townvigs in this game.

Vivax might be mafiavig who fakeclaimed to get his shot off though, which Palmar is conveniently ignoring to vote me based on "toad would just wait"... no I wouldn't

On March 21 2015 06:09 Toadesstern wrote:

What if Vivax is mafiaVig. Ever thought about that?

On March 21 2015 07:49 ExO_ wrote:
We can resolve this here and now. I believe vivax is mafia. If we let both go there's a good chance we end up dealing with it in some form tomorrow.

On March 21 2015 08:30 ExO_ wrote:
RB should block vivax. toad can shoot him then, and if by some inconceivable miracle he flips town we kill toad.

On March 21 2015 08:38 ExO_ wrote:


No? why don't you go lynch some random BM instead of solving this chaotic mess? Was such a horrible idea.

And now HF wants both to live, causing more chaos. playing Russian roulette would be better than listening to him

On March 21 2015 08:48 ExO_ wrote:


We had 3 blue claims. 2 vigi. combined with the irb mechanic in this game I refuse to believe there are 2 vigis. So we have somebody lying. Now we're going into n1 not knowing who it was. And there's a real possibility that one ends up RBed. What if the real one gets RBe, and we go into d2 with both alive? Now what do we do we still dont know who lied.

On March 21 2015 10:10 ExO_ wrote:


I could care less how fed up you are. Why did you switch off vivax to BM? I cant see why you switched. Same question to Palmar really but im not expecting anything from mr.yolo

On March 21 2015 10:18 ExO_ wrote:



you switching vote from vivax to BM is EXTREMELY relevant to the game. What could be more relevant right now? Reading through filters is hard on my phone, which is why Im asking you to tell me right here right now why the switch from Vivax to BM. Can you do that for me, or are you dead set on brushing past day 1 as quickly as you can?

On March 21 2015 16:43 sicklucker wrote:
Hf which do you think is real btw?

On March 21 2015 16:49 ExO_ wrote:


So you really think they're both town is the more likely scenario here? And if not, which one is lying?

And now what's gonna happen if they both live through until tomorrow? What's the plan to deal with it then?

On March 21 2015 17:07 ExO_ wrote:
Fuck why even find the mafia, let's just kill off all the town and then we'll know for sure who the mafia are.

On March 21 2015 05:18 ExO_ wrote:
I Highly doubt there'd be 2 vigis in the game. And I think lynching Vivax right now would be idiotic. That claim leaves him very open to a counter claim. There hasn't been one yet.

We shouldn't lynch Vivax right now. I'd really like more discussion on the rayn claim of tracker.

On March 21 2015 05:21 ExO_ wrote:


Jesus Christ, step back from the rhetoric for a second. He's not a confirmed mafia, in the slightest. Reevaluate the case. You're tunneling so hard, and it's not convincing somebody like me that he's mafia. It looks to me more like you're just dead set on lynching him and no information gained in the thread will change your mind.

On March 22 2015 03:27 ExO_ wrote:
Damdred:

When I first began pressuring Eden I wasn't 100% sure on it. But his reaction to me seemed very panicky, and thus made me think he was scum. I'm not sure what part you didn't think I followed up on, but from what I remember he never brought up any counter points or things for me to answer when I was questioning him. He just got raged a bit.

After he "reset" he seemed a bit better to me so I've backed off. I'm still not sure about him.

But I think after the results of day 1 there are significantly better people to be looking at, which I've mentioned. You're damn right I was angry after day 1, because I highly highly disagree with what happened. A bunch of people jumped on a borderline mod-kill lynch instead of resolving 2 people CC. I heavily do not believe both are vigs. I just don't think its possible. Therefore it would've been better to figure out who's lying in my mind. An opinion I stand by.

And don't say I'm incapable of scum hunting before day 2 even starts. I already know exactly where I should focus. But it would be better for me to see the results of the night. After all what if both Vivax and Toad die? Or if one dies and pops vig (though I suspect this will only happen to Toad, as I do believe Vivax is scum).

And on a side note. I know everyone here has played a lot and agrees long filter = town. But is that always true? Is it really that hard for a mafia to post a lot, especially like in Vivax's case for instance when he was on the chopping block?

On March 22 2015 03:34 ExO_ wrote:


You're like 6th down the line for me. I'm more interested in Palmar, rsoultin, HolyFlare, Vivax, and rayn. I think they are all more likely scum than you are. You haven't seemed nearly as bad since you're little tantrum, then reset as well.

On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote:


Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there.

Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him.

On March 22 2015 03:44 ExO_ wrote:


Because he started the BM train. We were going to resolve the 2 vigi nonsense day 1, and then he came in and derailed it onto BM. rsoultin I feel like should've known better than to switch, so I find it odd that she did. I don't agree with the reasoning she gave me for switching. Palmar for that last second "yolo" vote. like wtf. And rayn is on the train too, but I was highly suspicious of that tracker claim he threw out there.

Of all these people HF is probably the weakest scum read the more I think about it. But he did start the useless ass train onto BM. So I have to at consider him.

On March 22 2015 04:05 ExO_ wrote:


I don't think there's a mafia vig? I think Vivax slipped revealed there isn't a mafia vig, and he just fake claimed vig.

On March 22 2015 04:16 ExO_ wrote:


Because I'm not sure if I want to accept it or not. But I have seen it and do think its possible, even likely.

On March 22 2015 05:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Vivax, shoot Rsoultin. If she is town we can deduce rayn may very well be scum

On March 22 2015 04:37 ExO_ wrote:


I guess I haven't thought it through yet. Onegu has been very quiet and has hardly stuck out so I've not been playing with what he's said in mind.

But you're right they do have to be the same alignment. And I don't think I'd be comfortable calling both scum at this point. I was/am really pissed off at HF for starting that BM lynch train. And he thinks he's some huge threat to mafia, when I think what he did helps mafia more than it hurts. But begrudgingly I think he's more likely to be town

On March 22 2015 15:05 ExO_ wrote:
Ill be back tomorrow evening. What I'll say is somebody has lied and I dont think they've realized it yet. Im going to let this little charade play out for a bit and see what happens.

All ill say is check some of these meta reads. people are wrong.

On March 22 2015 15:12 ExO_ wrote:


should read I dont think they've realized they've I know and can provie they lied

On March 22 2015 15:56 ExO_ wrote:


rsoultin what's your gameplan for this game?

On March 22 2015 15:58 ExO_ wrote:


could you explain the thought process behind your night action?

On March 22 2015 16:51 ExO_ wrote:
I really dislike the fake claiming, espicially as VT. Do you think anybody besides HF could pull it off?

On March 22 2015 17:51 Eden1892 wrote:

well yes, the alignment cop one is fake

and honestly if you take that out... and i guess assume onegu is lying about being a mason... 2 vigs, 1 tracker, 1 jk vs 5 mafia with an rb and a couple extra kills isn't unreasonable

On March 22 2015 17:50 ExO_ wrote:


This is 100% what happened. I was told Nova Corp. My role is the cop.

On March 24 2015 05:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

You're probably scum though because you come in joking when you're heavily suspected and other people are trying to solve the game. I don't believe that's an attitude you would take as town.