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Fecal Feast hates being VT which he is basically claiming but if you compare it to the past games that hes done recently the anger and hatred when compared here is not the same. He is scum because of his lack of rage towards his role. Get rekt | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:14 Trfel wrote: Palmar, I was at band practice for three hours before the start of the game. I had five minutes to type that up. Give me a break. Why are you so defensive towards an opening post! | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:15 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Dammy when are you planning on becoming confirmed town this game? Well this old engine of mine has barely started warming up i'm getting up tp speed | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:26 Holyflare wrote: look at all these people just copying my read i made in 2 seconds already Its b ecause your smart and I want to be smart | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:29 Eden1892 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Yea but we can pretend you do cuz I'm town. Also how did that work out for me? Pretty sure I became the foil for Damdred's "Best Analysis of the Year" award Sometimes it hink of your post game comment about robik being a pigeon crapping on someone in a old shirt and 'm a dump truck full of trex shit 90 miles an hour on a tux and I laugh.... | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:34 rsoultin wrote: o.0 sicklucker have you become rational? o.0 SL confirmed scum That's three down | ||
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It gives me a bit of pause at this juncture, also Slam went against quite possibly the hardest hitting player in the thread because he thought he was getting railroaded early. I think that's kind of towny coming from slams position rather than just straight omgus. He still looks a bit scummy because of his seriousness but On March 19 2015 08:47 Alakaslam wrote: I haven't bothered with you two yet. I am finding a very difficult scum player out, and I have divided attention as I am working late. But I am here nonetheless. this post reads sort of towny to me. | ||
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its somewhere around that, that's the sign up thread I ost the address for the game. | ||
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On March 19 2015 08:54 Eden1892 wrote: it's more than that but yes that read that i make on her that is literally nearly perfect is in effect here Is it perfect in this situation? or nearly perfect? | ||
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Now Eden why would you even bring up where you failed your read on Rsoultin? Your read at the start of the game feels really forced to me (towards Rsoultin) and you then throw a little shadow on it by saying BUT I DID FAIL READING HIM HERE. Its very strange to me. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:04 Palmar wrote: Damdred are we lovers? Yes, but not the married kind . | ||
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This is your soul read on Rsoultin? I was just looking at her recent scum games whats so different tone wise or content wise to make you think that this is totally town from this post? | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:11 Eden1892 wrote: content-wise eh not a lot yet tone-wise it's everything. she is so clearly relaxed here. i really don't know how you would look at her mafia games and not see it lol I'm not talking about her GAMES, i'm talking about first posts since this is what you town read her on. Games I give you she is a lot more uptight as mafia generally, but first posts what is the difference? Ive read some and yes in one game she gets right to the point but in the other she is trolly. So why? | ||
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Tentative town: HF Slam Palmar Rsoultin Tentative Null/Scum: Vivax FecalFeast Tentative Scum: SL Trfel Tunnel: Eden | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:15 Damdred wrote: Catch up post for me so I knokw where to start from and other people to talk about Tentative town: HF Slam Palmar Rsoultin Tentative Null/Scum: Vivax FecalFeast Toad Tentative Scum: SL Trfel Tunnel: Eden EBWOP | ||
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Also I can read people differently than what my other reads suggest I should that is just inane palmar. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:46 rsoultin wrote: Pretty close. You're pursuing an opener that as town would be to generate discussion. Yet clearly the game is well underway, but instead of including your own input you just refer back to your opener. The second isn't meta. In fact, I never once suggested that your opener being made before or after your role PM has a thing to do with your alignment o.0 So your response came back as overly defensive...in fact I specifically said that your opening post was not why I thought you might be scum. You have just went up a rank foe this post. | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I pointed that out before she did Dammy. I demand points too. You get point | ||
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On March 19 2015 09:48 ExO_ wrote: Just saw that game started. Staring to read now. What is up with trfel's entrance into the thread? Am I supposed to interpret it as trolling or what exactly? This post however gets exo strike one | ||
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Anyway the mindmeld hf was when me and art posted a thought on the same thing in the same miinute basically. Still reading a bit but sl is probably scum here. | ||
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Ff is pretty towny that makes me happy. Super...im not sure yet. Also SL what's the point of bringing all of this up about Eden without a reap conclussion | ||
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As scum he always starts with super hard reading someone as town | ||
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On March 19 2015 11:26 sicklucker wrote: Dandred you thought I was mafia. d1 in horn and another mini in the same week. Both days I almost got lynched and was the topic of discusion because of you. One game you were right one game you were wrong. Both games I was modkilled =/. We were both modkilled as town. (did we win that?) Also you suspect me of being mafia at one point of everygame we have played so im not talking out of my ass. tunneling and thinking someone who intentionally plays scummy is scum are two separate things. In fact I thought you were town near the end in horns I just wanted you dead so your streak would be over kekeke | ||
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Also its like 4 hours into dad phase you are the scummieat person in thread atm | ||
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Exo SL Rayn (possibly) On the fence on current: Trfel | ||
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Anyway <3 bm just don't fake claim a cop/tracker this game. I've got to sleep. But seriously I am sorta liking where trfels head is so far, its not that hard seeing the thought process so far and where she's going. So that is a good thing. Reminder to self read toads filter. also hopefully ve and vivax do stuff tommorow | ||
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Not sure what's wrong with my trfel read to you rayn it should be pretty apparent that trfel wasn't doing anything which is bad scummy for him and then started to make good posts that showed he was thinking about the game, wouldn't lynch at this point. Art I should be higher on yours and hfs lists! Do something about this chop chop. Cooking will be here to answer most questions | ||
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On March 19 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote: I read ExO and doesn't seem like scum to me. Didn't read SL. Opinions on super and Toad requested. Got rayn on ice for now, ie no read. I saw this after I made my super post damdred got those mind reading abilities this game. Toad I'm not sure I have a couple of problems with him, in his filter he's barely doing anything but going after palmar, saying he disagrees with people for x reason. The little pressure he put on SL he just stopped went back to palmar. Meh I dislike it | ||
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Anyway I actually think you might have a stronger case for artanis in there than you do for Palmar at this point. | ||
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On March 20 2015 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all that was not a shit fight and it lasted about five posts. I think it's kind of an exaggeration to call it a shitfight... How can you read me scum when you don't even know what i have done? And why do you read ExO scum? You argued over nothing with Palmar over nothing? That is a shit fight like you made that section of the thread shitty over nothing? Exactly Exo might be scum for not being contributive like he normally would be, he might be behind but hes boring and on the side lines. | ||
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My vote is in a good place | ||
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On March 20 2015 02:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: Here are the things why you SHOULD remember what i have said in the thread: (1) you literally claim you have read my posts (2) my reads apparently align with yours (3) you read me scum all of those are reasons you SHOULD remember what i have said and at least try to figure out why i say what i do yet you claim the opposite. Literally if you are sure i'm scum you don't need to make posts like this to convince me not to vote you. If i'm scum you do not need to break down whats wrong with my scum read TO ME. If i'm scum to you, this makes no sense to me why you post talking to me as such instead of pushing me to hell and back to get lynched. | ||
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I'll read everything when i'm back | ||
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 .Back to cooking any questions I will answer when i'm back | ||
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On March 20 2015 06:24 Fecalfeast wrote: Not all of us have perfect information, bro Nope it's the anger over small things that make him town. | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:15 rsoultin wrote: simple logic damdred 1. ppl always bash ls for using meta on people he doesn't know/hasn't played with 2. he relies heavily on meta so y'all's conclusion is it's scummy for him to ask for meta reasons to support other people's reads on players he hasn't played with as that alignment? simple logic I think it shows more about ff align than LS at this point. I've seen LS do this all as town, but he is being lazy | ||
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On March 20 2015 07:28 Palmar wrote: No, I think his recent posting has been nondescript. But I'm mad that he townread me and proceeded to ignore all the people interacting with my reads. Also I think the post where he defended slam but called him scummy anyway was a bit off. Which post is that? | ||
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Also I think there's another slam Scum tell that's missing from this game to go along with serious, but my point was I think he could be town at that point and subsequent postings and thinking had me moving him up the ladder. Now what posts did you want met o comment on specifically Palmar. | ||
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Breshke might be the lynch today. Total lack of thread prescense not involved in anything at this point extremely lurky. Sort of like his other suck games in that regard need to compare tones and content and filter length, Trfel is actually back on my radar since everything has stopped coming from that corner. But some of the earlier postings were good. Rayn is still on my radar for previous said things Sl I'm not sure he a obviously giving thoughts at this point. Super is interesting but need to reread filter meh Breshke most interests me at this moment though | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:12 rsoultin wrote: what specifically about the town leans bug you? Total associative read based on nothing? | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Dammy Dammy... I was asking for reasons, and instead you give me this. If I'm honest, this feels like a list of a mafia with a death wish that can't put in the effort he can as town, but still feels the need to at least give it a try. I'm afraid I'm going to have to vote for you ##Unvote ##Vote Damdred You so silly | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Please prove it to me Dammy. I don't want to vote you but I think you're mafia Lol you want tons of things from memory when I haven't filtered anyone. That is silly | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote: eh i can see this, if only cause bresh really struggles playing scum/scumreading people, but my problem is his posts read okay(ish), i liked the slam post in general, and it's almost like you picked the shortest filter here lol i'd rather get a chance to talk to him when he's gotten caught up than vote him on so little he's really your top scumread right now? what do you think about the scumread hf and i have on rayn? I think he's the most obvious Scum that's getting no attention at this moment. I'm voting rayn? | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:18 Fecalfeast wrote: filter people instead of antagonizing him, then Lol art knows I'm not antagonizing him? | ||
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On March 20 2015 08:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I never said I wanted things from memory. I wanted you to give me some original thoughts, true Damdred re-eval style. You will sadly Have to wait until Tommorow for that work | ||
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not lazy town if you said your time would be shorter than normal before game started so there is that to consider. This whole mess about me scum reading someone who I seemingly agree with on reads (two separate individuals now) is honestly stupid. Scum have perfect information and can legitimately throw town reads out so that circles match bus so scum reads match etc., it is insane to think that just because you have the same reads as someone that they are town without looking more into them. Your tone is different from your town game super, to me it sounds like you are angry/dicky towards certain people-shrug- its day one and I've barely done anything yet just because no need to yet and time is stressed. Now on the brighter side of the mafia world breahkes post read pretty genuine and his confussion on the SL town read and the way he's taking the scum read seem pretty good to me. I want to see a bit more bit perhaps not a good lynch anymor | ||
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Anyway, no super I haven't filtered anyone I'm just going by reading thread and memory at most points. Well mostly anyway I've taken a peek at filter lengths bit nothing in depth | ||
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On March 20 2015 10:57 Breshke wrote: Im only on pg 60 but im up to the point where i think iv'e read this stuff before but still need to filter specific people but i can give you a list that probably wont have a number of people and i wont be writing shitty one line reasons because they always feel fake to me so ask about certain ones if you need to. Town RSo Toad Eden (maybe down a tier) Tref Town lean Slam HF Damdred (could easily go up a tier) Scum lean Palmar Scum Exo SL Im missing like half the players here but will hopefully start reading filters soon. VE for example could easily go into town lean but i kinda want to read more into him but i liked the bit where he was going aaginst RSo about FF. Tell me about Palmar specifically | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:38 Eden1892 wrote: so if mafia don't fight you then why are you scumreading damdred who's more actively engaging you than vivax Eden beat me to it. However how did vivax fight you ? He told people to explain to you you were scum | ||
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On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote: Look. When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day. Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you. This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh | ||
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I'm here for the next hour roughly going to start filter diving and doing some things if anyone has any questions ask me before I get to it. | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:04 Vivax wrote: Tell me more, if he's mafia it's because of which posts? If hes mafia its because hes more lazy than usual and not digging himself rather than those list posts that he does. | ||
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On March 20 2015 20:08 Vivax wrote: I'm starting to hate this game cause there's so much offtopic to wade through, and most of it doesn't come from Alakaslam. The most notable thing was super arguing with Eden, I found that quite townish. His questioning of Trfel doesn't quite sit right with me but he has proven to be headstrong about his own position versus Eden and for that I will not push for his lynch today What I don't understand is why HF put rayn from 100 % scum to meh in place of SL. Or why BM is content with one post completely unrelated to the game as an excuse for not posting, looks scummish. Going to take another look at LS and FF. I hate this post, literally hate it with a passion. why on earth do you find the argument between super and Eden towny? Why are you willing to drop your strongest scum read that you spent the most of your filter talking about? | ||
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I think VE is probably townish for it, but doesn't have a bearing on your alignment at this point. Ve just flippin gout again | ||
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On March 20 2015 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I think that's bad reasoning. VE can flip out as either alignment. A good example would be LI where he and Toad bussed each other to smithereens. I also think it definitely has bearing on my alignment as I'm clearly putting myself in the spotlight though it becomes null because for some reason I have to be the one to bring that up. Unless your claiming scum the example really doesn't apply here. VE is flipping out because of a perceived mislynch being set up on him, I don't see it currently so maybe VE is just making noise but I have to use bad reasoning for me to read him or else we end up with me scum reading VE all the time. | ||
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The first thing I would like to draw your attention to is the activity to which Vivax is putting into the game at this point. The game is roughly 105 pages at this point after 36ish hours (probably 38 hours). Vivax has a filter of 2 1/2 pages discounting pre game discussion about game mechanics. While filter length is not always an indicator of scum, if you compare it to his town games in imperial (not as bad an example as the game is growing at a proportional rate to imperial at this time) or if you compare it to Void (day one in void) you will see the vast difference in how fast and loose Vivax is with his postings. He just doesn't have the same involvement in the game that he normally does as town. This game Vivax takes a sidelines stance on many of the hot topics of the thread or just isn't taking part in it. For example when the slam business is going on Vivax pubically says hes not going to take a stance on it. Instead of taking a stance on the toad Palmar fiasco he just says it was an over reaction without drawing any real conclussions from it. He also has no opinion on rayn during a heated part of the thread, hes really not sticking his neck out or trying to get involved in the thread at the really heated times just really trying to blend in. IE I have Rayn on ice is what he says. His scum hunting at this point is really generic without much push in the thread. When he has somewhat developed a scum read such as on superbia he states it and partially backs off of the read as time goes along. For example he scum reads superbia for a few posts and puts them in the thread but then moves on towards LS after he makes big LS type posts that look pretty easy to pick on. Super is still his strongest scum read and has the most reasoning behind it, when he returns to the thread he drops it over an argument that Super and Eden had over semantics? There were clear inconsitincies in what super was saying and acting in the thread during my interactions with Super and with super and eden. But they were good enough for super to drop his strongest suspect to move on to LS? He has no real focus or push in the thread, his scum reads are pretty haphazard and he lacks the crazy drive that he normally shows as town. If you look in void or in imperial which I've already referenced before, or in Mission mafia he always is pushing people working out the scenerios in the thread driving the thread activity hes just not doing that here. Hes more subdued and letting the thread take its own course while blending in and not getting involved in the heat of the moment battles that are going on. Compare his filter to his scum game in Storm Mafia 2 which I think was his last scum game? And it is pretty similar in length and ability to blend in and drive the thread. Vivax is a good pick for scum here. | ||
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Comment on it, I have a few chores to do now i'll be back soon | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:03 rsoultin wrote: damdy un problema namely...meta i think you know why i'm bringing this up :/ You are correct that meta doesn't necessarily make someone mafia. It makes them more likely to fit into a certain role. However Vivax actions or inactions this game far outweigh the implication that he could be town playing differently at this juncture. | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote: i was more referring to your general allergy to meta in most of your cases lol at least when you're town  oh early day one meta is important i think to a degree and later on it becomes more and more dependent on in game play and discarding meta. But day one its viable in my eyes even my eden case had a bit of meta in it mostly tone and comparing it as such though | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Vivax is town because he goes after mafia Superbia and mafia LS. Damdred probably just bad here. and then instantly drops superbia for bad reasoning and goes after LS who is just being ls....ooookkkkk | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you mafia too because you talk about other people you think are scum than me? There is no implication in Vivax' filter he is not scumreading Superbia any more. He is just doing things other than focusing on just one person this day phase. Which is not scummy the slightest. then get me lynched bitch | ||
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Super/vivax/rayn I'd prefer vrayn or vivax I think. | ||
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Why did you stay out of the fray early and publicly declare you weren't going to take a stance on x or y and not take part in any of the hot discussions going on. And honestly if I'm not mistaken someone said toad was latching onto poular scum reads at the time bit so did you early | ||
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I'm not saying go quietly but we get Scum either way | ||
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I need to look just don't be dumb and kill each other. | ||
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On March 21 2015 09:27 Vivax wrote: This doesn't make sense cause you 180 ° on the opinion you had before the BM lynch happened for no reason. In your opinion I should still be mafia but why am I not? Meh I remembered fanfic and you weren't looking horrid | ||
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BH did fan fiction mafia where Scum just rolled town Kochi and jat were both town vig | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town. I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner. Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that. Hf literally claims a role every game he's not generally.. | ||
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On March 21 2015 08:00 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, Toadesstern (1): sicklucker (1): raynpelikoneet (0): Not Voting (0): Currently, Bill Murray is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain. Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. I'm going to be working from this mostly tonight tomorrow i'll probably expand a bit more or Monday depending on time constraints, I kind of want to look at the other wagons and see how they fell apart but this is probably the most important i'm deleting the failed wagons at this point but leaving wagons with single voters on it. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Firstly I want to talk about the claims a bit going forward, HF and Oneg are confirmed town. There is no reason at all for mafia to claim Mason early in the game. For starters you give up two of your team mates just in case one flips on a cop check or a rogue vigilante shot. They are the easiest people in the game to confirm 100%. Its idiotic for anyone to say that HF or Onegu are scum because of X. HF made the right call in the long run if HF flips scum, then onegu has to flip scum. its simple, mafia don't claim mason in this type of situation so people quit being bad. Two vigilantes are sort of likely in my mind. BH has had two vigilantes before in one of his games which makes ti more possible and then when you add in the orb which is basically a randomized killer in some instances it sort of makes more sense to me. The orb can act as another kill power for mafia or town, so another vig to help with a bit of balance makes a little sense to me. For now i'd rather just leave this alone and focus elsewhere. Rayns tracker claim is possibly the most meh to me as its hard for me to see so many hard confirming roles on people especially with masons in the game. I still think it might be true at this point though. (And 5 power roles makes sense in this setup with a weaker mason and a weak tracker also. Three weak roles and two strongers mafia probably has stronger roles in this setup as well if this is the case) ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Now moving back to the voting, Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes, sicklucker (1): Alakaslam Not Voting (0): Taking out the strikes at this juncture just for a clearer reading. Here we have confirmed BM who flipped green pushed by Mason HF to not lynch into the claims. We have claimed mason partner onegu on LS, with confirmed towny BM. We also have Tracker Rayn on BM. Also apart from the claims HF looks really towny himself, he pushed his own ideas early and helped get conversation started without stone walling anything. He pushed a lynch onto a towny he did but town is more than likely to be wrong than right especially early on. Vivax a part from the claim actually looks better after a glance at his filter, he tried really hard and his reads that he gave at the end especially towards little things like Art and myself actually had really good insightful things in them. He acted the part of town dying really well if hes scum and I don't think he can do it that well as scum i'm pretty sold of Vivax being town in this situation. His early filter screamed scum to me early but after that point he just looks really towny especially after the claim. Toads actions around the claim look decently towny to me at this point. Some of his thought process is jumbeled but I don't see the point of a mafia CC there just to go 1-1 especially if its a real scum vigi at this juncture. Its dumb to give up your shot in that sense for a shot at lynching the town vigilante. It just doesn't make logical sense to me to do that. I colored myself green since i'm confirmed to myself at least _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes, sicklucker (1): Alakaslam My next stop is on the Eden and FecalFeast train. These two are probably my top two towns at this point in time, some of it is gut feelings but most of it is based on the play in the game up to this point. FecalFeast has played extremely aggressive up to this point. He has questioned people pretty doggedly and pushed his own ideas forward. He cased LS earlier in the game and it wasn't a bad case I think hes put in the most work in trying to figure out peoples alignments and figure out motivations through his postings. hes really towny and has a filter that shows that hes trying to solve the game. Eden has shown an interesting amount of play this game. Eden has been involved in almost everything that has been going on in the thread besides a few quick breaks and catching up. Also has shown to re-evaluate the game as the game has went along and has obviously been paying close attention and showing the thread his thought process. The questions that he asks and the pressure that he tries to apply to people look towny to me and the anger (which he is obviously trying to stop) looks like it is coming from town Eden. I am really sure that this is Eden also at times you can see a real lack of knowing what to do that I can see coming from town Eden, while at the same time pushing his own thoughts and feelings in the thread to try to get things done. _______________________________________________________________________________________________ Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes, sicklucker (1): Alakaslam Now we come to the hard portion of the reads, I have Rsoultin, Breshke as town. Rsoultins filter was absolutely HORRIBLE to get through at this point (really shame on you rs for derailing the thread at point for hideous things to talk about *finger wagging*). But besides the derailing you can see how Rsoultin is going through the thread and trying to get people to post there thoughts to get more information from it, it feels more relaxed than any scum game I have currently seen Rsoultin play While it lacks a lot of amazing things to be frank it does have a clear consistant thread going through it that you can follow on who she scum reads and why. Breshke I started off as scum reading because of lack of activity at points and a real lack of effort pushing the game forward. However Breshke re-entered the thread after that and seamlessly changed my mind, he was involved in things he posted his own thoughts and pushed the thread forward. At points he challenged sl on the read and seemed to want to evaluate people based on what they were saying. The scum game that Breshke normally plays with is horrible, and I just don't think I can see Bresh as scum at this point in time. They are both solid town at this point. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes sicklucker (1): Alakaslam Slam is probably scum in this situation sadly. My earlier read on slam was that he was trying to take the game more serious and that his attack on HF was indicative of a town slam trying to be different. This is true that slam can be serious and still be town, HOWEVER there was another tell that I use to distinguish between town slam and scum slam that I didn't want to reveal till I got to see more of what he does. Lazy slam+Serious slam=scum slam. Anytime slam is serious and active in the thread and doing things such as attacking HF or digging at people hes more likely town but as the game went along he fell off the face of the world and only showed up to complain about the thread and still did little to nothing to help the game progress only complaining that we lynched BM at this juncture. I think he has a good shot to be scum. The other solo voter at this point was VE. I think VE is actually town here. His vote when looked at without the strikes isn't actualy in context. He was trying to get what he thought was the scum vigilante killed and had to leave before deadline and the BM wagon taking off. Aside from that he has been decently proactive when he has been here and I do not get the scum sense from him reading his filter, his anger at BM getting lynched instead of one of the Vig seems genuine and he seems to actually be putting forward a real effort at this juncture. I think hes a good towny at this point after reading ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes sicklucker (1): Alakaslam LS is scum I think....This makes me sad writing this. He just seems so lazy and its really hard to see where hes at or where hes going with his reads at this juncture. He just feels forced and he just doesn't seem to be digging or doing homework on his meta... Palmar is town I think. His antics EoD were a little difficult to keep up with but he just seemed to not want to lynch Vivax and would of rathered lynch his scum read in Toad. Some of his early game stuff was a bit meh like his interaction with toad. But he has said some really towny things to me, his slight pressure on me during the course of the game was good I thought. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes sicklucker (1): Alakaslam I am probably going to regret this but i'm going to mark SL in as a towny at this point. His wanting to take vivax hostage to get me lynched to a point felt towny, he wanted his person lynched no matter what. His work after lynch when he was here was pretty godo and the questions and observations he made while catching up I felt came from a towny perspective. I have a good feeling that Sl is town at this juncture. Exo is a very likely scum in this situation. His actions after eod do not exactly make sense to me coming from a logical place. He just seems so angry that we left both claimed vigilantes alive when its just so much better to get the extra information. He seems to be unable to scum hunt currently because of this and is just harping on how bad everyone is instead of pointing out legitimate things that we need to focus on. As such if you look at his early game he had to be pressured to an extent to make any type of conclusion when it had been talked about before. His pressure on Eden looked kind of bad to me, he lacked follow up also on questions that were answered to him and he just let fall to the way side. He probably is the most likely mafia out of anyone at this juncture ________________________________________________________________________________________________ This leaves me in a world where I have two mafia or one depending on setup between Superbia, Trfel and Artanis. I am the most sure that Superbia is the scum in this group. His actions near eod are really interesting for instance he talks to Palmar at points like he is confirmed town to him. He keeps asking Palmar where his vote is going at one point and wants to follow him and complains when Palmar is wanting to switch back to toad. Really weird inconsistencies in the early play that myself and Eden pointed out (mostly Eden to give credit), Vivax also pointed out some really good things earlier. Really lackluster in scum hunting and backs off most things when confronted ie against Eden. Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): Artanis[Xp], LightningStrike, sicklucker, Toadesstern, Trfel, ExO_, Damdred LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray,FecalFeast, Onegu Toadesstern (1): VisceraEyes sicklucker (1): Alakaslam Artanis had some rally interesting bad things in his filter in retrospect. Just sheeping onto my case when I posted it is a real head scratcher. Maybe it comes from being so sure and playing with Vivax so much and his filter is really big at the same time so i'm really torn and not sure what to make of Artanis. He did have some good interactions with myself (but he dropped the scum read really fast even though I had little follow up) and he had an ok interaction with VE when they were arguing. I'm still leaning town on Art currently but things bother me Trfel started off really bad in my mind. And the eod was so/so at points it felt like Trfel was just settling on things rather than digging, such as the vote on Vivax. It makes sense to some degree and I might be expecting to much in that regard but I think a total town trfel would look elsewhere and see what he could find. Also his mid game was really good I felt which was what initially changed my mind on him. His early game was pretty bad and lackluster, but his return to the thread after he couldn't sleep and the barrage of thoughts got me to come around on him. His later postings before EoD were not bad as well as you could keep track of his thought process. ________________________________________________________________________________________________ Wagon Formations. This was probably one of the hardest things I've had to look at. Vivax wagon came about when I pushed vivax and Art immediately jumped on followed quickly by LS. LS still had me as null at that moment in time I believe as he is usually really antsy about following me after I tricked him in titanic. But instead of questioning or looking for himself to try to see if I had a meta point he instantly sheeped soon as he saw it which makes it seem like he is the scum that initially started the piling up process. The claim by vivax I belive had him leading the lynch 5-3 over rayn. His wagon began to disintergrate at that point until toad counter claimed and people started piling up. This wagon was probably the one mafia most wanted to happen btw as it was so quickly piled on even as vivax started giving his last reads on. Toads wagon had Vivax, Palmar, Rayn and Ve being the main pushers to get him lynched. This wagon gained little traction as he was the CC and most people generally agreed that mafia would not cc there and go 1-1. BM was a last minute wagon formed by HF to give us more time to scum hunt and be able to get more information by using the Vig to shoot who we wanted to at that time.. It was a last second wagon with most of the people who wanted to lynch toad swinging over with some hold outs from lynching Rayn. Most of the people who could of hammered vivax were totally against his lynch so they would be unable and I feel like super could not risk taking the negative effects of hammering the vig so had to stay put. 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On March 22 2015 07:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Tell me how one rb and one dead townie solves the vig claims at all unless rayn comes with a miracle. How do you know 100% it swoop be a towny? | ||
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God dang this has passed me off. The summit of Scum in super exo and slam and we shoot ve. Great job great job | ||
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You guys shot the person who would give us the LEAST amount of workable information it's great. IDK why this makes me so mad but it's ok. Not like anyone can find anything in this scrappy thread with over 200 pages through one cycle rofl | ||
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Eco you are playing like trash if you are town. Others agree with things I pointed out about you. And no you weren't interested ins cumulative hunting during the night you were interestedin arguing setup and saying that hf was Scum for stupidity | ||
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Also I wanted to bring this up yesterday around the time but I got distracted at home. Rayn is probable scum, someone said yesterday that Rayn claimed under 0 pressure basically. This just isn't true about that time Rsoultin and myself were talking about me moving to Rayn which would give him the vote lead at that time or the momentum going back his way. I think it was a bit more pressure on rayn then we initially thought in context? if that makes sense and it kept the votes going on complete town wagons on vivax at that point it seems. I need to fact check that a bit | ||
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On March 22 2015 10:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Back to your cage dammy, you had me as a question mark/leaning scummy above a lot of jubjubs so you're not invited. Oh I was angry and raging over nothing then I settled down and been normal You had me scum and voted me scum yesterday over a lot of jubjubs | ||
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On March 21 2015 07:20 Breshke wrote: I'd be willing to lynch LS aswell simply because i don't feel like he is trying to work out these claims I like this quote from breshke. If both toad and vivax are town, I don't think scum bus LS in this situation | ||
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On March 22 2015 10:55 rsoultin wrote: lol i'll do something tomorrow i just tinfoil hatted all the really stupid reasons + Show Spoiler + toad!scum (unlikely) vet hit (unlikely but more possible than the first) meh that was a really doubly triply stupid time to claim lol mrrrrt Actually a vet in this setup is almost impossible with the amount of blues. You, 2 vig, 2 masons. That should be all of the blues unless one of you are lying obviously. I didn't think rayn could be tracker with masons in game << I was hoping... | ||
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So yea 5 vs 5 is ok. | ||
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And hes obviously confirmed town either way. If we have another blue maybe hes fake claiming but hes still town | ||
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So oneg first I believed you on your mason claim and said ok to Rayn: (. I didn't disbelieve you. There has to be one mafia between Rayn and exo. Way to many information roles in the game. One thing I know in the comics/movies some of the main characters were part of nova corps even if they weren't grunts. So there's that to so meh.., Vivax calm your nuts | ||
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Like seriously you didn't even read my big post vivax when I did it and you complain about rd not digging that's kinda frustrating to me | ||
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Someone copy paste rayns wagon d1 please I can't do it on phone. Think d1 damdred hf and hf vote Rayn. LS doesn't jump on wagon to push it over the edge? But jumps on vig vivax without any thought? When vivax claims Rayn claims minutes later when people. Ould go back to him. Am I crazy this sounds like a Scum wagon Scum wouldn't get on. | ||
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LS infers Rayn is Scum agrees with hf. Says it's good never votes Rayn, never. Even as Rayn is lead in tv the votes. Soon as I make the vivax case and people start jumping on he jumps on vivax taking him from leading the lynch | ||
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On March 23 2015 08:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Eden makes a good case. Eden is town hero. I will sheep Eden. << damdred point was good | ||
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Just speculation, if I'm dying and a mason id tell partner everything I wanted to say on my death. Im not hf and he's better than me but I'm always more hesitant when I'm alive than dead shrug | ||
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If roleblocked, the orb is considered used for that evening and the power in question will have been wasted. The possible one-time actions on your target that could result from using the orb are as follows: 1 Role check (explained more in detail below) 2 Track 3 1 KP delivered 4 Roleblock | ||
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Rayn was scum lsot in mylo even though he bussed his whole team and was right all game got upset said he was replacing out of every game would afk as mafia forever etc. etc. Anyway. Probably best plan is to Orb Rayn, Rsoultin maybe JKs one of the scummier people to try to block a KP, Exo checks into super palmar breshke. And we go from there. That's a lot of information that could be bgathered. | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:46 ritoky wrote: from what i can tell from just entering the thread, damdred chose some random meta read on rayn over a pretty much perfect read on me which makes me dislike him. and artanis is probably town. will let you know more as i learn more We have someone fake claiming a tracker claim tos omeone who was roleblocked last night. That same person hasn't done a lot this whole game besides yell at people.... Now we have a replacement into the game 2xx pages in? | ||
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On March 24 2015 08:53 ritoky wrote: okay? why are you so averse to getting a read on me versus rayn especially considering the quality of your read on me? it seems incredibly sketch that you're essentially refusing to use one of your best reads on TL forums. To draw a reaction from you. The idea against rayn is quite good that he is mafia I think, you have 24 hours obviously to change my mind though | ||
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On March 24 2015 06:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'll just 100% afk all the games i am scum in so this will never happen again. I don't give any fucks losing as mafia. I give any fucks losing as town. I give a HIGH amount of fucks LOSING AS TOWN IN A FUCKING LYLO WHEN I HAVE LEAD THE LYCNHES OF ALL MAFIA INT HIS FUCKIN GSTUPID SHIT GAME AND SOME RETARDS WANT TO LYNCH ME! lololol | ||
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Anyway Eden, part of it was how BM rayn was when he was here compared to his most recent mafia showing. And his most recent town showing (mini mafia by fecal feast) he was much more balanced in that game than in XXX or in this game. He also started fights for no reason with Palmar here and myself in XXX. And his read progression in this one and XXX was hard to follow at points as well. | ||
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On March 20 2015 23:35 Palmar wrote: I'm a bit pre-occupied today because of Censored. I'll try to do stuff later but most likely I'll just sheep people who look like they care. I still think there is a good chance Damdred is mafia. I think my points on him were good. I don't think Artanis is mafia. Like obviously this only works for me, but if he is mafia he knows I'm town and he's been fairly casual in trying to interact with me, which he wasn't at all in imperial (I know, shitty meta, but still...). I'm unsure about Toad. He really overreacted to me calling him mafia in the early game but I think he actually really believes the stuff he said about both me and Artanis in his big case, even if I think it's all wrong. The scummiest thing about him right now is that he seems to expect me to actually go read other games when everyone knows I don't really use meta and I hardly ever re-read old games. I don't know about rayn. He went after Damdred before me, but I can't remember why. I think holyflare looks fairly town. He has a lot of posts and seems to care. SL could be mafia for fencesitting about me and toad. LS is town, as explained. rsoultin is maaaybe town? VE has actually been seriously underwhelming and is a good shot for being mafia. I can't remember almost nothing of what he posted except he promised not to lynch me today. If I have time his is one of the primary filters I know I should read. rsoultin made me read exo's filter yesterday and he looks sort of ok as I explaiend then. I think that's all the people I remember off the top of my head. I know there's a few others (breshke etc) but I don't really have an opinion about them. | ||
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Honestly we probably should lynch outside oneg today use orb on him tonight or if we have a tracker or something to doloe him. Looking into super/breshke probably gives us a lot of information. If we are looking at a bus slowly starting n1 bresh has a decent chance at this point if ls couldn't play but not sure about that. | ||
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Also after night post it would of been beneficial for scum to claim a partner there since to them two cops in the game wouldn't happen I think...Anyway besides that I still don't understand everything super is saying I need to reread and bresh dissapearance irks me. I do think ritoky might be town and slam is slam... Ij that case one of the tr is wrong. And its hard to say what I'm least comfortable with | ||
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On March 25 2015 12:46 Trfel wrote: It's not really credit if the roleblock potentially incriminates him.... Disagree, if one wouldn't of went against RS calling his claim in question and ruined his mason claim a little would of lent more credibility to it I think. | ||
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If Oneg is scum with scum Palmar why does Palmar draw so much light to the fact that oneg as mason is not possible. He also goes on to highlight how scummy all of it is and really seems to be Palmars preferred lynch during the night. Every action Palmar takes when he is mafia is to do one of two things, the first is to secure a mislynch to further the goal of winning the game. Palmar always looks to bus secondly, and in fact he generally HATES bussing from my limited experience with him. Perhaps i'm going to far down the rabbit hole at this point, but I don't see scum palmar pushing on oneg during the night when oneg is scum and the orb kill power is still out there (especially since scum team know that they don't have the orb at this point). So why put scum oneg at jeporady in this situation when theres still a chance oneg could turn this around or claim mason with Palmar or someone like that and ride it till end game. This sounds convulted, but I highly disagree that scum!Oneg would rock the boat like he did going after JK!Rsoultin like he did. Also horrible play to shoot one of the people town reading you at that point in the game in HF. I don't think Oneg has done anything overtly towny but everyone is trying to policy lynch him when mafia was just pushing for his lynch. I don't like this push on oneg at all | ||
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Slam feels town to me, Oneg play doesn't make total sense as scum as I said before. Why isn't breshke in your list? | ||
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On March 26 2015 05:21 ritoky wrote: you just used that read as justification to refute half of trfel's argument on why onegu is scum.....and you don't even believe it???? the fuck. No, being right or wrong on a read doesn't mean that you are mafia. However that doesn't mean Oneg is wrong nor does it mean he is scum saying it as hes said it as town and more recently as scum with rayn so theres that. | ||
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Everyone really needs to read breshke filter and stop being lazy and give opinions, instead of talking abou tpolicy lynching slam/oneg at this point. | ||
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Since its what the thread wants its what it will get, a total lackluster approach to a day where no worthwhile discussion or attempt to get peoples alignments right or any work what so ever just fighting who to policy lynch because they are scared of them in lylo | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Also just wanted to say I really liked this post from a tone perspective. He seems really not worried about "incriminating" himself by instantly stating the "hardly interacted with a few players" thing. The no RB thing also seems to come a little bit out of the leftfield. I find it extremely doubtful that there isn't a RB for scum given all the blue roles and that a RB for scum is pretty standard anyway, but that makes it that much less likely that a scummer would actually think of suggesting so. I dont understand, this just seems like something that is impossible being spewed | ||
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On March 26 2015 09:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yes but it's the kind of thing I can't fathom scum coming up with. Also the first thing holds true. Honestly disagree. Why wpud scum lie in this situation when all they have to say is I haven't interacted with tons of people. The fact remains after pinging ls out at an odd juncture ls barely interacted any and palmar totally ignored bresh. Tthe problems lie both ways not just one | ||
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Anyway art I see what you mean on the tone here. I hate to do this but I'm starting to doubt two vig again for some reason... I've been pretty lazy tommorow I am going to do my favorite thing. | ||
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I keep going back and forth on balance and looked at fanfic its the same role claims basically besides tracker for alignment cop and no masons. Which the orb could take care of bah. I hate this. Reading super, and ff in the morning I think ff is still town though | ||
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Anyway trying to remember the point I had, I believe bh balanced his game around the fact the vig had to survive a night and another day to be able to shoot. I'm not sure but 25 person game had two extra pr than we do so I actually still like what we have also super you tried to bus me while I was hitting you with a fleet of busses | ||
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On March 27 2015 07:06 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Why? Everything's he's posted is super easy to say. Eh super did this same thing. Feels authentic to me | ||
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On March 27 2015 07:32 Onegu wrote: He is being TR for the orb tracking scum LS, but I think that could be a bus at this point. He isn't reading my filter much yet scum reading me. Then gives a reason I am scum with Rayn about the mason thing, I say that's not true because I always listen to Rayn when we share QT and he brings it up again without verifying what I said. I'm struggling and considering this all game. Who says Scum don't lie to help ls | ||
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Here is a day one vote count that looks interesting to me On March 21 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Vivax (8): Toadesstern (4): LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, sicklucker (3): Bill Murray (2): Holyflare, Eden1892 Not Voting (0): Currently, Vivax is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Look at that vivax wagon, from my reads which i'll get to in a second its amazing that only one scum was piled up on Vivax at that point in time. I also left several people uncolored because I want to talk more about them later and why i'd push them towards scum or town pile currently. From my perspective at this point scum had little to nothing to do with the vivax wagon at this point especially after the claim by toad. However look at what is probably the final vote count for day one. On March 21 2015 07:59 Half the Sky wrote: Day 1: Current Vote Count Bill Murray (8): Holyflare, Eden1892, rsoultin, Superbia, Vivax, Breshke, raynpelikoneet, Palmar Vivax (7): LightningStrike (3): Bill Murray, Toadesstern (1): sicklucker (1): Not Voting (0): Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. Scum wanted vivax to survive for mislynch #2 I believe going into day 2. He was super divisive at the time as the game just didn't believe that there could be two vigilantes. Vivax was narrowed in as toad being the fake and he had to be lynched, Toad thought 100% vivax was mafia and needed to be lynched. And of course the likelihood of them shotting each other was pretty high during the night if true. These facts lead me to believe that while HF wanted the wagon to not lynch into the claims and control the shot that mafia helped push this wagon over the edge with the votes. Eden is the earliest voter that isn't "confirmed". However Edens reasoning for going along with HF (plus the pushing on people and just filter length in general) points to Eden being town in this situation going along with a good plan that could very well help town [spoilter] On March 21 2015 06:29 Eden1892 wrote: [/spoiler]Deal If I have to sheep you to get this happen I'll just do that. Cuz this immediately occurred to me as optimal play. ##UNVOTE ##VOTE: Bill Murray I find Edens response to be towny and understanding and generally Eden was really involved in the lynch up to that point and beyond. So I'm pretty sure that Eden isjust a towny following HF (which I thought anyway) So there is at least one mafia in Breshke, Rayn/Ritoky and superbia at this point on this wagon I think. As i'm looking through Supers filter....this post really...strikes me On March 21 2015 05:52 Superbia wrote: LightningStrike where the fuck you at. I know you're lurking right at this moment. On March 21 2015 07:44 Superbia wrote: Give me your thoughts on SL and LS. Though it's probably a little too late now. Probably put your vote on Bill Murray. This post really really bothers me. Both of these posts really do Especially the comment to Palmar, the sheep onto BM also had really little to do with in the thread, I've read that part of the thread in context and as superbia is posting. And it sort of bothers me Super is soft pushing SL and LS the whole time and just gives up on it and sheeps onto HF for almost no good reason. It really bothers me Rayn and Breshke also have no real explanation why they switch to BM. For rayn he does scream to get toad lynched and its reasonable to expect him to hammer or tie up the votes between Bm and Vivax since vivax is currently being hard town read by Rayn. His lack of reasoning though is what bothers me in this situation, even so theres at least 3 people on the BM wagon that might switch to LS and rayn really doesn't push that angle at this point only halfway mentioned him. Breshke is just void of almost everything at this point in the game. Nothing about Bm at all during that part of the lynch and calls out LS which is a plus... I think theres probably two scum at least between these three and currently I think its a toss up between breshke and Super for one probably. Moving on to what happened today. On March 27 2015 08:03 Blazinghand wrote: [/Blue][/b]Day 3: Current Vote Count Alakaslam (7): Vivax, Damdred, Breshke, Eden1892, Onegu, Artanis[Xp], Superbia Onegu (4): Trfel, sicklucker, FecalFeast, ritoky Superbia (2): Alakaslam, Toadesstern, Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. As i'm sure we all are aware most of us were piled up on superbia at the time before we all switched over to slam. (btw its not a bad mislynch it was pretty good at that point and saved us one later more than likely). Now I think Oneg is town. That one post so far this night phase about being confirmed town because of a misread just screams town to me. Also his mason claim that people look at so badly... yes it was a bad play past n1 to keep it going but up until then it was an excellent play. HF saw it and I see it, mafia won't claim mason I believe it is just such a low reward high risk play. Once they find out you aren't a mason its tunnel on and you are dead. If you claim with mafia bud both of you are sacrificed for a day or so of no information about you. Its just a bad play all around, and as such I think both main wagons at EoD were town. Once again both wagons are headed by Townies just like yesterday and mafia just poured on. As such the mafia have to be between Breshke, FF, Superbia and Ritoky. This is the only PoE at this point that makes sense to me. Now FF hard pushed LS, if you look in slythern mafia he did the same thing for most of the day and after that d1 case I do not think he did another case which is one of the knocks on him here. (I'm mad at you btw FF) Past d1 FF has been playing down but his d1 was really good he pressured people and pushed people, and made a decent case on LS and nothing since. Hes still a light town read at this point and if one of the other three flip town he would fall into the spot I believe. This leaves me in a world where Rayn, Superbia both soft pushed LS day one for bad play or being largely afk. The ninja votes on Bm Ritokys, paranoia at not voting with his scum read when he is scum leaning on the person and well knows that busses happen screams as fake paranoia to me. Breshkes lack of almost anything in the thread and has been in a blind spot all game tone wise hes been ok at points but I don't see much. I think that has to be your scum team, or pretty close | ||
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On March 30 2015 07:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Vivax are you not concerned about Damdred? I'd be happy to carpet bomb into the rest of PoE but Damdred is seriously starting to worry me. You are pushing me into the most tinfoil hat guy in the thread...and you aren't pushing me? | ||
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Like art still gives me the willies and I hate looking at his filter but I have to do it tonight. Ritoky might be scum but I need to read his and rayns filter. | ||
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I'm going to do it though because I had to lose more. Right now toads claimed vig and id like to town read him for that but at the same time a cop, jk and 2 vig seems really to good compared to mafia who only have three roles (btw I'm vt I just wanted everyone to hard claim vt and not try to do something sneaky in lylo). Something just doesn't make sense to me. Also jk is an insanely strong role for town in this situation as it double confirms things such as blocked shots and can confirm mafia later in the game obviously. So I'm actually leaning back towards one of the vig being fake now and I think it's probably toad. This is before a reread and would mean that palmar hard bussed toad out of the gate which is hard to believe but maybe not so much. Also I have such a hard time believing the vivax wagon was pure besides ls. That's really really hard for me to see presently. Also the super lynch has weirdes me out in a way. And it halfway feels like bresh is saved up as a mislynch or is the obvious scum bah | ||
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I also doubt its oneg at this point, the claiming mason and subsequent actions just don't make a ton of sense from a mafia meh. Also need to look at the ls wagon again and the people pushing it and the reasons for a ve shot exactly I never looked at that to much because was just mad ve got shot in that situation. | ||
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Also trfel is always town in this situation no matter what half crazy theory people spew ls would afk and play when he can not wnt his team mates to instantly out and kill him. Just more ramblings. I'm probably lynched tommorow or in lylo as I'm really one of the most viable mislynched at this moment as I've predicted would happen. Palmar soft pushed the idea of an SL and damdrsd lynch before SL confirmed himself. So there's that. Also scum ls jumped on my wagon really fast I don't think in anyway ls would hard bus mafia big like that after expressing doubt besides vivax claim and filter he probably has to be town no matter what. Tommorow if nobody else asks stuff o have to read ff, toad, art, breshke. It will take me most the night phase so questions will be asked and answered | ||
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Look at the narrative of Rayn claiming Tracker and then claiming on vivax who had gotten blocked. This is excellent for mafia because if he was tracked it would make perfect sense for him to visit Vivax as a role. Look at the over aggression that Rayn is showing towards the thread. Ritoky is totally tunneled which is a mafia trait of his, he isn't jokey or really fun this thread either. He also is afk during a portion fo the lynches that are most important compare it to say Down under when he would go afk around lynch so he wouldn't be accountable during shenanigans. He is also not doing much and when asked to do work he didn't do it and just afk'd instead. This is ritoksy scum meta folks. Lynch him today | ||
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On April 02 2015 07:17 Breshke wrote: Damdred why were you pushing me all last phase yet you seemed to jsut drop it this phase? I made a point about this during the night cycle, your lynch feels like a setup like in the student mafia game at this point. We lynch super afk lynch you then we are in mylo have to get 3 lynches in a row. I think ritoky is the most likely mafia we can get the next one tommorow | ||
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I tried to read artanis filter and I couldnt' get through it all, but he had a ton of towny looking things in it even if there were a few bad things. I think art is town I don't believe art does like 50 pages of filter in a 400 page game and doesn't just afk when nothings going on | ||
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10 minutes. FF has me as scum I think, convince the thread to lynch me ff I just did the scummiest thing ever make use of it. Lets see if you can get me lynchd since i'm yoru top scum read. Lets have it | ||
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On April 03 2015 02:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote: You think it's Onegu again now Damdred? Literally I can't make an argument for him not being scum unless scum made huge plays in Toad or Trfel/SL I am ok to losing to those plays it hink | ||
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Here was the working theory that I went into the night with/this morning, the idea was that SL fake claimed orb and the real orb was on RS or on Exo and they were the one that took the Palmar shot. The evidence I found suggests that logically that this is not what happened. Rsoultin was most likely the target of a block as he was keeping his cards to his chest, i'm pretty sure that the RB would block the orb and his ability also I find it hard to believe that someone can take two actions at night such as a JK and use the orb on another target, which btw makes the most sense since a tracker could potentially be in the game and it would be really confusing if someone visited two players. This also applies to Exo, he was pretty explicit that he was using his ability and didn't know who to use it on going into EoD. No hints in his filter that he was scum reading Palmar and he was really wanting advice on who to check I am pretty sure that he wasn't responsible. If you look in SL filter he never explicitly says that he is going tos hoot Palmar but he really does mention him a good bit and how he doesn't sit well with him. The question becomes does SL shoot his own team mate and hope that it takes the 1/3 chances and kills him. SL is a good mafia player, town hes ok but I think hes a good mafia player just has bad breaks sometimes. He does like to bus, but to me it seemed like Palmar was going to try to come back into the thread with his postings and try to do something makes no sense for SL to shoot palmar in this situation. I don't think SL would do this as scum, if it does i'm probably nominating him for scum game of the year honestly. So we just don't need to look at SL right now | ||
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Anyway just lynch ritoky, then oneg then probably toad/trfel and game is won 8shrug* | ||
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Most of this game has been useless crap that makes it stupidly hard to get through, so its not like i'm a stand out in that field | ||
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Really to bad *shrug*, if you know things I don't might as well share with the thread meh | ||
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Which means exo could of had orb and orb'd palmar but theres no hint in his filter about it anyay | ||
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Here's the thing in kinda unsure about ff being sxum. And if its a power role I think its trfel. Though why shoot trf over SL ij that scenerio as he's more confirmed since he shot scum hrmmm | ||
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On April 04 2015 01:44 Onegu wrote: I'm voting my biggest scum read, but since town loses anyway wouldn't mind a vote on me so we can end this farce this post is interesting | ||
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Like seriously if anyone thinks Scum buddy x would bus damdred who is flying under the radar completely you are retarded. Palmar did it, ritoky did it. So come at me | ||
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Even if we have to talk about each other we have to spam this thread into activity to win Scum has had a way to easy time hiding | ||
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Like I realm think we have way to many roles for this at this point | ||
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Also rayns reaction to exos claim makes me think the role cop got it back on whoever they checked that night. | ||
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I mean several people had the exact same reaction to your mason claim | ||
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FF why did you move your vote off of scum ritoky today? Why wouldn't you get on him yesterday? | ||
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On April 04 2015 11:19 Onegu wrote: No in XXX I town read him from the get go like 12-24 hours into the game I gave him a 100% town read, so you are just wrong. That's not even what I said. You just played scum with him, he acted the same way in the thread and towards players that he acted in XXX. Why did you town read him without even looking into his filter and declare it a soul read when you generally do read him. | ||
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On April 04 2015 11:37 Onegu wrote: Plus what are you talking about people reacting to my mason clam, I'm saying I claimed to be masons with Rayn, people go oh that makes sense guess Rayn is town, then Rayn comes in and goes nope I'm tracker not mason. not exactly sure what you mean here go into more detail in not sure what post you mean | ||
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On April 04 2015 11:47 Fecalfeast wrote: I read that as a drunk/really tired slip now that we know he's scum. Just because of the spelling and the fact that he totally played it off like it never happened or mattered Ff who did rayn have as scum on his filter? Also you did that work on oneg but doesn't have a conclusion what do you make of it exactly? Who is scum now that rayn/rit has flipped in this case and why and don't say pie I know you e read all the filters | ||
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On April 04 2015 12:21 Onegu wrote: Here you talk about several people having the same reaction to my mason claim but the claim I am talking about is when I claimed Rayn was my partner and he stayed with his tracker claim instead of getting the free town reads he would have gotten had he said he was mason with me. I'm not so sure that he would of gotten the free town read but that's neither here or there at this point, more than likely one of you would o fhad to been flipped after the LS lynch to confirm the other. I need to look at the other interactions, I somewhat think you might be mafia based on some things ritoky said that aren't solid currently, but show me who you think are scum in the meantime? | ||
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On April 04 2015 12:03 Fecalfeast wrote: OK so early on I'm seeing rayn hardcore bussing LS but he's doing it with a pairing of LS/superbia which makes me think he's not busing anyone else at this point. The damdred comment is something to add to my list on you, though. Flipped mafia players have interacted strangely with you so far damdred. Task now: hit 'All' on rayn's filter, search for 'is town' and then 'is mafia' will return with findings Most of the mafia have pushed for my lynch or soft pushed it at points yes. I am still waiting on conclussions on onegu | ||
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Why are both of you now sure that i'm not the scum? Also FF could you expound on that a bit how much is oneg mentioned in Rayns filter and whats the context behind the communication they do have? | ||
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There is another way to look at the shots, VE can prove he is town as the game goes along to people who read him well in art and a few others. So why wouldn't scum want him gone, while slam has a harder time prooving he's town a majority of the time. Why not keep around a great mislynch in slam there? Doesn't really matter the roles imo . FF you remarked earlier about interactions between me and acum but you haven't drawn any conclusions from that. What did you mean especially now that you aren't scum reading me. Also if scum oneg is 100% confirmed scum to you for lack of interaction with rayn why am I not confirmed scum with oneg for having no real interactions with oneg at this point? Seems like a pretty big double standard | ||
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You are also waffling pretty hard on oneg here. Either you live in a world where oneg is scum or both trfel and toad are scum? I'm not trying to be antagonistic but why the back peddle you are poeing yourself | ||
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On March 21 2015 10:46 LightningStrike wrote: I don't think HF is fakeclaiming being Masoned with Onegu because HF normally doesn't fake claim a role as Town. I was at the airport picking up with my Dad at deadline and was taking him out to eat dinner. Those 3 were the biggest ones I thought of after checking out EoD stuff. There could others I just need to check voting patterns on that. On March 21 2015 10:49 LightningStrike wrote: Also the reason I don't think we would have 2 Town Vigs because that would stupid to have 2 Town Vigs esp with a Tracker claim from Rayn although he looks bad at the End of Day voting for his switch to BM seemed to have little reason. Also we had 2 masons claimed in Onegu and Holyflare so if we really had 5 blues it would to over powered I think for Town even in such a large game (We got 18 people signed up for this game). On March 21 2015 10:53 LightningStrike wrote: At least I only claim it under pressure unlike Onegu :O On March 21 2015 12:07 LightningStrike wrote: Onegu said Holyflare was his Partner. This just reads to believable and to sincere to me. Art what do you think? I know LS is scum hre and I need to go check his other games but this just seems like he believes the claim 100%. I'm not sure if mafia LS reacts in this way to mafia Oneg claiming mason? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/477307-slytherin-mini-mafia?user=Fecalfeast&view=all You are also very well balanced in both taking a measured view of the thread and always tried to be around for deadline and helped get votes moving or shenanigans. Firstly why were you missing around EoD n1? Secondly why are you so overtly aggressive this game in comparison to your town game, in slytern and partially in titanic even when you scum read people you weren't super aggressive about it you pressured but it was very balanced. Here its just total pressure with no balance, if you read slytern the tone just seems so different to me. Need someone else to read it as well as I might be confirm biasing myself currently | ||
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On April 02 2015 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote: From LS filter: Damdred LS mentions damdred more than a few times. Most times it is with a defensive tone. This post, ignoring the part where he totally TMI's my alignment, is weird to me. He asks palmar his scumbuddy about why he's scumreading damdred but he asks it in thread. Makes me lean a little on the side of damdred being scum as I read this as "Why are you going after a teammate?" but I could be wrong. Asking artanis about damdred and basically telling damdred to defend himself Damdred says ls isn't scum, or at least says we had bad reasons to call him scum, which is a point against. LS then asks damdred about artanis and VE. LS acts like damdred is an ally all game and it makes me think damdred is scum. LS sheeps damdred's wall of text onto vivax with a reason that is proven false later on. This also makes me think Vivax is town for the same reason I think ritoky is likely town now. also + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2015 10:38 LightningStrike wrote: I'm back just got my Dad from the Airport and had Dinner with him and saw that BM was lynched instead of Vivax or Toad since they are the ones who claimed Vig and counterclaimed each other. Also Holyflare looks a little bad for lynching BM and rayn and Palmar's switches seemed scummy after the flip of BM. Perhaps rayn is Mafia alongside Holyflare and Palmar? I don't know tbh but I think 1 of the 3 of them is Mafia at least. @Holyflare: Why you thought BM was Mafia? @rayn: Why you swap to BM when I thought you were scumreading Vivax? @Palmar: Why you swap to BM too when you didn't really say much about him in your filter? Ritoky I think this makes ritky town. LS wouldn't bus, I will sigbet anyone who thinks LS would call his mafia partner scum here. onegu This post sounds like LS genuinely believed that onegu and HF were masons. HF died and there was apparently a kp missing afterward. This makes me think I'm wrong on onegu. This post makes me think that the scum QT was discussing the blue claims and balance as though all the claimers are town. Although this still doesn't excuse onegu fully as it would be a really dope mafia play to make onegu seem town. Conclusion Damdred ritoky vivax onegu BONUS FecalFeast LS spends A LOT of posts reiterating the idea that I was wrong about his alignment. Then when asked why he townreads me even though I'm calling him mafia: That is a bullshit answer since my only real scum game is a newbie game and my second game ever. He's got a tmi read on me and when it's challenged he gives a bullshit answer. That's all I'm saying. Also explain how you got from this to where you are now Also I noticed you said you were going to read my filter and report but I really don't see anything in depth? | ||
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Palmar you do have a point on. I still need to check his push out etc., Also everyone bus'd the hell out of LS, and Rayn/Palmar at points so this team has been really bussy. Glad to see your a bit defensive when I haven't even really focused on you or trfel this night | ||
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And left you alone before your CC and palmar got back on you then hammered bm *shrug* | ||
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Your right we won't lynch into Artanis/Sicklurker ever. There are to many blues in this game with the orb even being a neutral factor. I can just go back to afking I really don't care, I am putting in work trying to make sure we win and you are shitting all over me for no reason. | ||
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But I find it highly unlikely currently that the final two lynches are both mafia in FF and Oneg. I highly suspect that FF is scum in this case over Oneg and its my duty to continue to press things even if people feel its been covered enough. As such just indulge me if you are town. Explain to me Toad why you are alive and why Trfel is alive. I find it harder that trfel is alive though just fyi. Also take me through yoru thoughts toad about hwo you were voting on Ritoky with me nearing EoD when we were lynching Breshke I believe and you came back made everyone move and then nothing came of it. I know I've talked balance a lot and I keep going back and forth because I really do feel like town has effectively to many self confirming roles at this point in the game. Two vigilantes aren't possible, two somewhat nerf'd vigilantes are possible. I kept going back and forth inside myself thinking about this, and I kept looking at Fanfiction which had two vigilantes but they were nerf'd. They had to wait till night two before they could shoot which meant they couldn't claim and they had to live through 2 days, it was offset with they didn't lose there shot when RB. Here we have two Vigilantes who are also somewhat nerf'd, they can shoot n1 but they totally lose there shot if they are rb. And I think that's th nerf that makes it possible. They have to remain hidden and make the shot count. I think I mostly don't trust we have a JK and a Vet in the same game when town has the potential to have another RB/Tracker/KP/Cop in the orb. It just seems way to town favored. I mean if both Vigilantees are real and hit scum and the scum team gets RB by RS or target saved and hit the vet or orb does something weird scum team is completely dead | ||
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On April 05 2015 01:12 Trfel wrote: Here's a prediction of what will happen. Toadesstern will die tonight. We lynch Fecalfeast tomorrow, he flips mafia. Then, Artanis dies. That leaves at 4 player MYLO, with: Trfel sicklucker Onegu Damdred The scum is probably Damdred. But, Damdred and Onegu are both scumreading me. If town doesn't vote together, they lose. So this is actually a fairly realistic way that town could lose this game, by mislynching me at 4p MYLO. This is why I am not going to be night killed, and why I wasn't killed last night. It's a good plan for mafia. Alternatively, of course, they can try to mislynch one of Damdred/Onegu. This way, mafia has two potential mislynch options instead of just one (which is what it should be, as sicklucker, Toadesstern, Artanis, and I are all town). Look at my play outside of my veteran claim, even outside of my orb usage (though both suggest that I am town). Here is why I am still town.
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On March 25 2015 13:32 Trfel wrote: Eden, now that ritoky and Onegu have claimed VT... What do you think about the game's power role balance? 2 vigilantes 1 jailkeeper 1 cop Is that fair for a 15 town vs 5 scum game? Thanks! Trfel what is the point of this question at that point in the game? If you are blue like you claim you have already said that you believe the two vigilante claims I believe, RS is obvious JK and Exo is the cop. So why even ask this if you are blue here? On March 25 2015 14:39 Trfel wrote: Sorry, can I get answers to these questions? Links to previous posts are fine. But I'd like fairly concise explanations. Why is Alakaslam scum? Why is Onegu town? Why is ritoky town? (given how he crushed town as scum in Down Under 2) On March 27 2015 00:53 Trfel wrote: I need to head out now. I'll check in when I can, but I might not be back until a couple of hours before the deadline. I'm sorry about that. But my reads aren't the best, and I'm not terribly familiar with this game, so it's probably better that I'm not the person leading town anyway. Want to lynch: Onegu ritoky Could lynch: Fecalfeast Superbia Artanis (meh) Alakaslam Breshke (though I haven't read his filter at all) On March 27 2015 06:12 Trfel wrote: I mean, I would rather lynch Onegu or ritoky. But it doesn't appear that I have that option. Might as well make it look like town is united so that scum is scared. On March 27 2015 07:26 Trfel wrote: This could work for me, at least. Ritoky has looked really towny, though I wouldn't expect otherwise, regardless of his alignment. But last time this happened to me (scummy player into towny replacement) I didn't pay attention to the replacement's play, and I paid for it. You have a lot of weird things in your filter after Ritoky replaces in I've grabbed a few out just to ask what your thought process is and i'll elaborate a bit what I noticed in your filter. 1) Every time you mention lynching ritoky you always pair him with another name and as time progresses you always seem to favor the other person above Ritoky and getting them lynched. You also show a amount of respect and fear for rits scum game but you barely interact with him here and you call him towny but then put him back in the scum list with someone else but always vote someone else evn when the push to lynch rit is quite real I feel. 2) You keep going back and forth on Oneg like you know hes one of the last possible mislynches in place. You at one point say hes scum for these reasons then say nope nvm don't hold water and then you have him as town and then as sure scum again. Whats going on with your read on Oneg, and now you have him as town and a possible mislynch, I don't understand nor do I see your train of thought. I honestly think your scum, because of how you treat Ritoky and the frantic way your reads are changing without explanation really. | ||
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On April 05 2015 01:56 Toadesstern wrote: anyways I read it as "they can try to mislynch one of Damdred/Onegu [whatever happens to be town out of those two while the other one is mafia]" + asserting that you're more likely to be mafia But at the same time if trfel is so sure that i'm scum as the very next post suggests and the start of the post suggests you normally wouldn't say. mislynch Damdred/Onegu you would say or they go for a mislynch in Onegu. I know its semantics, but the phrasing is really strange to me | ||
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Tone is important to how people read you so there is that. However i'm not asking for you to completely explain why you are town, but explain your actions throughout the game and explain who is scum and why at this point. | ||
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This bothers me. O wish we hadn't shortened the day. I hate all these snap votes and afking when both of you are trying meh | ||
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I know nobody will listen to me and that's fine just doesn't feel right | ||
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I'm not really interested in pushing a claimed role today besides in jest, it's not optimal. But I'd both of you are Scum would be hilarious. Plus if oneg flips Scum vigi perhaps would make feels claim totally truth. I just hate how people drop votes and peace out I don't think it's good mylo play especially with Trfel Prolly afking a vote on me tommorow | ||
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What's the point of getting an afk LS out of the game even if he had family problems. An ark Scum mate especially if you waste the orb doesn't make sense to me especially an alive afk person who could be replaced is more reliable than a dead one. The vet claim aside it doesn't make sense to me. On the flip side if Scum has a vig it would make perfect sense for us to have anpther role that can cause disruption to that. Oneg got blocked, someone pointed out rayns reaction that was a good find. | ||
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On April 05 2015 22:53 Toadesstern wrote: did not expect that conclusion but I guess it somewhat stems from sheeping SL who's the only guy you're not currently scumreading?  I hard town read you toad besides entertaining theoriesr us and discarding them | ||
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On April 06 2015 02:18 Damdred wrote: Also nk 100% suggests toad is town vig and not Scum big Ask me how sl Ebwop | ||
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On April 06 2015 02:23 sicklucker wrote: Whatever id lose to a dandred / toad team. So ill take your word for it. Onegu giving up here does not look good anyway I'd lose to that to. On that note you can confirm with hts, but I don't see Scum double staking hf there with two shots when they could just hit another person instead. And the Rayn rage over rsoultins save is either omg you blocked the Scum vig shot or omg you stopped two kills fuck you. Which do you think,more likely | ||
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On April 06 2015 02:49 Toadesstern wrote: I already pointed that out yesterday as a possible scenarior to balance things btw. I explaining to Sl tgougg. | ||
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On April 06 2015 03:03 sicklucker wrote: Dandred had the largest post of all time. of all time That post took me hours to write q.q | ||
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@Trfel, if you can answer all three questions plus one more yes I won't fight you that I'm Scum. Damdred is the type of Scum to bus LS during the night and throw attention his way. Damdred starts the game basically bussing rayn, and continues to throw attention and Scum on his replacement not even wanting to give him time to get in the thread. Scum damdred not knowing who has the orb or who they will shoot calls for a shot on Scum mate Palmar. Scum damdred breaks his meta and analyzes hundreds of pages of game n1 and again on n2/3. Would Scum damdred do that | ||
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Yes, 5 Scum vs like 4 blues, basically 3 shrug | ||
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I just think that town had nerfd roles to make up for an item that town was more probable to get. Shrug | ||
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On April 06 2015 08:45 sicklucker wrote: And the orb coulda killed ritoky too with a better flip of a coin No it couldnt | ||
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