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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 13:53 GMT
#2101
Ooh Damdred post. Let's see if it's good!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 13:55 GMT
#2102
It's good. Damdred confirmed town, time to sheep.
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 13:57 GMT
#2103
Suddenly it makes sense. I kinda discarded Vivax because Rayn townread him which I have no idea why I did so. Actually noted him as slightly worrying too because he hasn't gone pants on head retarded yet which Vivax normally does. Additionally I know something extra about Vivax that makes me think he's scum but that's information I can't disclose without being a dick.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 14:00 GMT
#2106
Thanks for sharing.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 14:05 GMT
#2112
On March 20 2015 23:03 sicklucker wrote:
In void vivax didnt do anything past day 1 tho. So I dont think it makes him mafia but it could suggest hes mafia...

I do expect vivax to be more gunho at the start of the game now that I think about it.
Like if you sign up you should be exited to play at least at the very start of it right?

In Void Vivax had a good excuse for that and would've replaced out but he didn't.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:24 GMT
#2208
On March 20 2015 23:45 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 22:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:46 rsoultin wrote:
On March 20 2015 22:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I said I skimmed it, I didn't say I read it. I looked for lists or something general like that.


fitefitefite!

more seriously though i promised not to interact today and actually filter dive lol now go sit in your corner with your dunce cap or tell me why rayn is town

otherwise i'm not interested in you xP shooooo

I think Damdred is still the best shot for Mafia because his reads are more superficial than they usually are, he hasn't done anything and the way he's going about filtering is unlike how he's usually done it. He doesn't withhold reads on people and try to confirm other people as town for explaining it; he just saves up information and then spits it out in one big post that confirms him as town and makes us lynch his suspects. This damdred just seems to be playing to survive.

I think Rayn is a good second candidate because he's not really made his presence known. His push on Damdred was weakish and he hasn't really gotten mad at the people scumreading him too like HF. One point in his favour was the way he attacked me when I talked about Damdred confirming himself as town when he's town; it felt quite genuine.


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 22:55 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
It's good. Damdred confirmed town, time to sheep.
##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 22:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Suddenly it makes sense. I kinda discarded Vivax because Rayn townread him which I have no idea why I did so. Actually noted him as slightly worrying too because he hasn't gone pants on head retarded yet which Vivax normally does. Additionally I know something extra about Vivax that makes me think he's scum but that's information I can't disclose without being a dick.


so your top scumread makes one long post about Vivax that doesn't actually conclude anything spectacular and you're now ok with calling him confirmed town and sheeping it? that's something I do but it's not something YOU do

and you discarded a Vivax scumread earlier because your #2 scumread said he was town??? which you're now backpedaling on because your #1 scumread said he was scum?????

explain before I lynch with fire

I disagree that Damdred's post didn't conclude anything, I think it was pretty damning. As for the rest, Damdred did exactly what I asked him to; came back, re-evaluated and made a good case. He did much the same on you in Linux.

Can you explain how those actions make more sense for me as scum?

On March 20 2015 23:45 Vivax wrote:
After reconsidering the pros and cons I want Artanis to be a dick and post the information he thinks makes me mafia but him a dick.

You've smurfed in games I've hosted because you didn't think you could post as much as you normally do as town. I figured if you didn't have the time to post as much as you normally do as town you would've smurfed this game as well. Given you didn't and you aren't posting as much as you normally do, it makes sense for you to be scum.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:25 GMT
#2210
On March 20 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Artanis in fact looks terrible too.

What is this? I should be perma confirmed town to you for the way I handled the suspicion on you initially by HF. There was no reason for me to say that I think you're suspicious but I don't want to vote you unless we're both scum, which if you're town you know isn't the case, because it makes me look a lot worse than if I just voted for you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:29 GMT
#2214
On March 21 2015 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Artanis did town Koshi post less in the last game you hosted?

Was town Koshi scum?

In the last game I hosted town Koshi modkilled himself for very silly reasons. He posted less in the start, but I believe he mentioned pregame he was going to try to post less.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:33 GMT
#2218
Also Vivax, you're just a lot more subdued than you were in Imperial. You jumped from X to Y to Z with all kinds of crazy theories which you hung unto until people started agreeing with you, when you suddenly became paranoid because people were clearly trying to influence you. This game you're calm and collected. It's very offputting.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:34 GMT
#2219
On March 21 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Artanis did town Koshi post less in the last game you hosted?

Was town Koshi scum?

In the last game I hosted town Koshi modkilled himself for very silly reasons. He posted less in the start, but I believe he mentioned pregame he was going to try to post less.


Town Koshi felt offended by the same argument you and Dam follow which is purely activity based, so he modkilled himself cause everyone was on his ass cause "omg you post less than usual".

And that you're not aware of this when he was in the very same game you hosted is alarming, not to mention you townread a suspect for posting one wordy case?

Your argument is "People always post less as mafia than as town", and what's your sample? The last two games you hosted? Lol

We're talking about JOAT here I thought, where Koshi modkilled himself not because of activity but because of a perceived imbalance in the game from a position of incomplete information which he got super mad about for no reason.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:39 GMT
#2223
On March 21 2015 00:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:32 Vivax wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:28 Vivax wrote:
Artanis did town Koshi post less in the last game you hosted?

Was town Koshi scum?

In the last game I hosted town Koshi modkilled himself for very silly reasons. He posted less in the start, but I believe he mentioned pregame he was going to try to post less.


Town Koshi felt offended by the same argument you and Dam follow which is purely activity based, so he modkilled himself cause everyone was on his ass cause "omg you post less than usual".

And that you're not aware of this when he was in the very same game you hosted is alarming, not to mention you townread a suspect for posting one wordy case?

Your argument is "People always post less as mafia than as town", and what's your sample? The last two games you hosted? Lol

We're talking about JOAT here I thought, where Koshi modkilled himself not because of activity but because of a perceived imbalance in the game from a position of incomplete information which he got super mad about for no reason.


After we were both dead I talked with Koshi about it and while it's true that a lot of his rge came from the perceived imbalance it's also true that people falsely scumread him for not being post-y enough.

It's possible, but having the information that you smurfed especially BECAUSE you were worried about not being able to spend enough time as town makes me weary of a low post count Vivax. I'd like to see you and Damdred engage in conversation though.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:47 GMT
#2234
Game is hard.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 15:57 GMT
#2243
On March 21 2015 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Artanis in fact looks terrible too.

What is this? I should be perma confirmed town to you for the way I handled the suspicion on you initially by HF. There was no reason for me to say that I think you're suspicious but I don't want to vote you unless we're both scum, which if you're town you know isn't the case, because it makes me look a lot worse than if I just voted for you.

Damdred's case was not good. Yes it is a fact it probably (amongst some other things) makes him more townie than scum, that's where you are right on, but the case does NOT make Vivax mafia. Never.

You know, i originally townread you because usually when you are scum you go ham on me for no apparent reason (like Holyflare in this game -- if you did that you would be confirmed scum). But Vivax, Holyflare and Eden actually do have a point.

You look at stuff you should not look at. Like you haven't read nor you have tried to understand what i say about Superbia & LightningStrike. Apparently you think i am scum but you are not sure. It doesn't make any sense to me that YOU, of all the people in this game do not even CONSIDER what i say, if it's good or bad. You like to interact with me, yet here you don't. Instead you sheep a bad case on Vivax. I just don't think you are this bad. Because the stuff i say about my scumreads is in fact really good.

I don't think Damdred's case was bad at all, though I hate that he's gone MIA ever since.

Also, looking at stuff I shouldn't look at? What the fuck are you even trying to say, I look at what I find interesting and prod when I see things as I always do. As for your reads: You TR Vivax for his reads as if bussing doesn't exist. I share your concern on Superbia but I'm not as certain. I've given my reasons for why I think LS is probably town, I don't think he can be read at all like most people and his carefreeness suggests town strongly to me.

I like interacting with you, yes, but that's because we've usually both been pretty clearly town from the start. That's been absent this game and I dunno if it's because you're playing two games at the same time, if it's because you're scum or some other reason. It's usually easy for me to read you as town but not this game.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:06 GMT
#2255
On March 21 2015 01:03 Vivax wrote:
Artanis atm looks like he has trouble believing his own story.

Actually I do find it odd that I didn't end up talking much with Rayn. Then again I didn't end up talking much with Wave either when we played together. Though I was scum that game so that's probably not the best example.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:09 GMT
#2263
Like I'm pretty clueless who scum is atm. I thought Damdred had something sheepable and thought it was the Eureka moment I was waiting for. It all fell into place, but the fact that most people don't think it's convincing has me worried that it's not as strong as I thought it was. I'm looking for something to sheep because I can't seem to deduce who is mafia by myself today.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:14 GMT
#2271
On March 21 2015 01:13 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like I'm pretty clueless who scum is atm. I thought Damdred had something sheepable and thought it was the Eureka moment I was waiting for. It all fell into place, but the fact that most people don't think it's convincing has me worried that it's not as strong as I thought it was. I'm looking for something to sheep because I can't seem to deduce who is mafia by myself today.


tell me why you're not voting for rayn ^^

Give me something sheepable and I might. I'm a sheep looking for a herder.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:19 GMT
#2277
On March 21 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like I'm pretty clueless who scum is atm. I thought Damdred had something sheepable and thought it was the Eureka moment I was waiting for. It all fell into place, but the fact that most people don't think it's convincing has me worried that it's not as strong as I thought it was. I'm looking for something to sheep because I can't seem to deduce who is mafia by myself today.


tell me why you're not voting for rayn ^^

Give me something sheepable and I might. I'm a sheep looking for a herder.


tell me why my toneread is wrong/isn't good enough

The lack of interactions thing worries me too, but he is playing another game and the way he engaged me a bit earlier on Damdred which I've mentioned before felt like townrayn to me.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:22 GMT
#2284
On March 21 2015 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 00:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2015 00:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 20 2015 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah Artanis in fact looks terrible too.

What is this? I should be perma confirmed town to you for the way I handled the suspicion on you initially by HF. There was no reason for me to say that I think you're suspicious but I don't want to vote you unless we're both scum, which if you're town you know isn't the case, because it makes me look a lot worse than if I just voted for you.

Damdred's case was not good. Yes it is a fact it probably (amongst some other things) makes him more townie than scum, that's where you are right on, but the case does NOT make Vivax mafia. Never.

You know, i originally townread you because usually when you are scum you go ham on me for no apparent reason (like Holyflare in this game -- if you did that you would be confirmed scum). But Vivax, Holyflare and Eden actually do have a point.

You look at stuff you should not look at. Like you haven't read nor you have tried to understand what i say about Superbia & LightningStrike. Apparently you think i am scum but you are not sure. It doesn't make any sense to me that YOU, of all the people in this game do not even CONSIDER what i say, if it's good or bad. You like to interact with me, yet here you don't. Instead you sheep a bad case on Vivax. I just don't think you are this bad. Because the stuff i say about my scumreads is in fact really good.

I don't think Damdred's case was bad at all, though I hate that he's gone MIA ever since.

Also, looking at stuff I shouldn't look at? What the fuck are you even trying to say, I look at what I find interesting and prod when I see things as I always do. As for your reads: You TR Vivax for his reads as if bussing doesn't exist. I share your concern on Superbia but I'm not as certain. I've given my reasons for why I think LS is probably town, I don't think he can be read at all like most people and his carefreeness suggests town strongly to me.

I like interacting with you, yes, but that's because we've usually both been pretty clearly town from the start. That's been absent this game and I dunno if it's because you're playing two games at the same time, if it's because you're scum or some other reason. It's usually easy for me to read you as town but not this game.

So you are either scum or just incapable of understanding what i say about them.
Because both of the cases are 100% mafia. 100%.

100% doesn't really impress me that much Rayn because a lot of people claim 100% on their reads, especially you, and have ended up wrong in the past.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:23 GMT
#2287
On March 21 2015 01:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like I'm pretty clueless who scum is atm. I thought Damdred had something sheepable and thought it was the Eureka moment I was waiting for. It all fell into place, but the fact that most people don't think it's convincing has me worried that it's not as strong as I thought it was. I'm looking for something to sheep because I can't seem to deduce who is mafia by myself today.


tell me why you're not voting for rayn ^^

Give me something sheepable and I might. I'm a sheep looking for a herder.


tell me why my toneread is wrong/isn't good enough

The lack of interactions thing worries me too, but he is playing another game and the way he engaged me a bit earlier on Damdred which I've mentioned before felt like townrayn to me.


xP

i am not commenting in detail, but if you're aware of the game you have to know how active he is in it

use a real excuse please and thank you ^^

I will use any "excuse" I damn well please that I think is accurate. But thanks for sharing your opinion.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12971 Posts
March 20 2015 16:26 GMT
#2292
On March 21 2015 01:25 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2015 01:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:22 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:15 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:13 rsoultin wrote:
On March 21 2015 01:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Like I'm pretty clueless who scum is atm. I thought Damdred had something sheepable and thought it was the Eureka moment I was waiting for. It all fell into place, but the fact that most people don't think it's convincing has me worried that it's not as strong as I thought it was. I'm looking for something to sheep because I can't seem to deduce who is mafia by myself today.


tell me why you're not voting for rayn ^^

Give me something sheepable and I might. I'm a sheep looking for a herder.


tell me why my toneread is wrong/isn't good enough

The lack of interactions thing worries me too, but he is playing another game and the way he engaged me a bit earlier on Damdred which I've mentioned before felt like townrayn to me.


xP

i am not commenting in detail, but if you're aware of the game you have to know how active he is in it

use a real excuse please and thank you ^^

I will use any "excuse" I damn well please that I think is accurate. But thanks for sharing your opinion.


lol

so aaaangry

it's a bad reason

if you're following the thread, you know that

come on art

the main reason i don't want to vote vivax right now is you

this isn't helping ^^

Perhaps you should change your attitude towards me in case you want a more forthcoming response.
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