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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 19 2015 23:26 GMT
#1681
goodnight.
table for two on a tv tray
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25562 Posts
March 19 2015 23:39 GMT
#1682
Day 1: Current Vote Count

raynpelikoneet (3): Holyflare, Damdred, rsoultin
Damdred (3): raynpelikoneet, sicklucker, Artanis[Xp]
sicklucker (2): Eden1892, Holyflare, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Superbia, Alakaslam, Eden1892
Eden1892 (2): Fecalfeast, Onegu, Bill Murray, ExO
Artanis[Xp] (2): Toadesstern, Eden1892
LightningStrike (2): Bill Murray, Toadesstern, FecalFeast
Toadesstern (1): Palmar, Artanis[Xp]
VisceraEyes (0): Artanis[Xp]
Alakaslam (0): Holyflare, Artanis, sicklucker, Eden1892
ExO_ (0): Eden1892
Palmar (0): Toadesstern, Toadesstern, Bill Murray
Trfel (0): Artanis, Superbia, Eden1892
Holyflare (0): Alakaslam
Vivax (0): Holyflare

Not Voting (5): Vivax, LightningStrike, Breshke, Trfel, VisceraEyes

Currently, raynpelikoneet is set to be executed. Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain.

Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 19 2015 23:40 GMT
#1683
I'm through p21. Only exception is that I read ahead in Toad's filter to process some of the Toad/Palmar argument.

Town: rsoultin, Alakaslam, Toadesstern, Damdred
Null: All others who've posted

rsoultin is town.

Alakaslam sounded pretty earnest in his argument with Holyflare. "He's a little too serious too early" doesn't really resonate with me especially when Slam repeatedly insists he intends to break that tell for him this game. In particular his posts on p18-19 about "finding difficult scum" and "fallacy clean" caught my attention.

Toadesstern fell into the trap I fell into with Hammertime, which is to take Palmar seriously early in the game. His reaction is exactly like mine was a couple of times in that game. And he immediately questioned Artanis pretty pointedly on something when he saw it, really looked like he was reading and trying.

Damdred said everything I was thinking when I was rereading things. Reads Slam as town in particular and highlights the specific posts I had in my notes. Town.

Artie seemed a little more townish than the rest for his question to Slam about scumreading HF for using correct meta. It's not something he can't do as mafia though.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 19 2015 23:45 GMT
#1684
Was watching History of Trunks Abridged by Teamfourstar + Show Spoiler +
Best Abridged movie ever!
and there wasn't much posted. Artanis what's your case on Damdred being Mafia? Damdred what of Artanis calling you Mafia?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 19 2015 23:46 GMT
#1685
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 23:47 GMT
#1686
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 19 2015 23:47 GMT
#1687
On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote:
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today

When you catch up with everything can I have your reads?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 19 2015 23:47 GMT
#1688
On March 20 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote:
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today

When you catch up with everything can I have your reads?

Also applies to you Trfel
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 23:48 GMT
#1689
On March 20 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 08:47 LightningStrike wrote:
On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote:
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today

When you catch up with everything can I have your reads?

Also applies to you Trfel
Sorry, my reads are for me only. I won't grace other people with them.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 19 2015 23:49 GMT
#1690
On March 20 2015 08:47 Trfel wrote:
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD

so that you guys can make multiple pages of shit that has no relevance! yayyy fuck fecalfeast that guy hates reading pages of bullshit
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 19 2015 23:58 GMT
#1691
Is it just me, or (at about page 39) sicklucker is complaining about being voted, but also wondering why he isn't being wagoned?

That seems self-conscious and defensive at the same time.
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 20 2015 00:01 GMT
#1692
On March 20 2015 07:42 Palmar wrote:
I'll decide tomorrow. Currently I think we should lynch SL or Damdred. If one of them writes a serious love poem to me maybe I'll take him off the table.

To be honest, maybe we should just let them figure it out between themselves. Damdred scumreads SL, SL scumreads Damdred.

Fight it out boys!


Dear palmer

roses are red violets are blue.
Dandreds mafia and you should vote him too
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 20 2015 00:02 GMT
#1693
On March 20 2015 07:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
For some reason you mentioning SL suddenly made me realize SL nullread me, thought I played towny but that I pocketed him in Imperial. I hard townread him there and I've only nullread him here. Why is he afraid of me "pocketing" him when I haven't been townreading him?


Compared to the rest of the thread id say your on my side
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
March 20 2015 00:03 GMT
#1694
On March 20 2015 08:47 Trfel wrote:
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD


I actually have a question for you.

So you were talking with toad about his palmar scum read and you were basically along the lines of you don't really see it as palmar being scummy.

I'd actually agree with toad that it is. So palmar reads toad as scum for reasons and cbf's explaining them so jsut spams kill toad. Toad gets lynched and is town. I know that you trefel are very self conscious when you are wrong even if your case is really good and you try to change things so you don't make the same mistakes.

Why then do you think that palmar isn't doing that and seemingly ignores past mistakes. Obviously you arn't the same person but would you not think that it would cross palmars mind that oh I read toad as scum for doing this and he was town. Toad is doing these things again maybe this isn't a reason to call him scum.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 20 2015 00:03 GMT
#1695
On March 20 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote:
Eden I need your opinion on the slam/HF argument thing. It felt like everyone was kind of staying away from it at the time like not interfering. There was people in the thread talking about other things but no one really got super involved with HF and slam. Whereas when someone calls out SL a bunch of people jump onto it.

This lead me to the conclusion that Slam and HF are both town and mafia was going to just let that fight continue. But it could also just be a thing where early on peple don't want to interfere in stuff so they can get reads on people.

I'm on pg 44 and catching up fast i slept for like 12 hours so feel elss shit should be around more today

I kinda go the other way, a lot of people agreed with HF pretty fast about Slam being too serious. I don't know just from that whether Holyflare is town but I do think Alakaslam's behavior during it was pretty townie.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 20 2015 00:03 GMT
#1696
On March 20 2015 08:03 Damdred wrote:
I haven't filtered anyone yet so all of my reads are from reading so it's subject to change.

Breshke might be the lynch today. Total lack of thread prescense not involved in anything at this point extremely lurky. Sort of like his other suck games in that regard need to compare tones and content and filter length,

Trfel is actually back on my radar since everything has stopped coming from that corner. But some of the earlier postings were good.

Rayn is still on my radar for previous said things

Sl I'm not sure he a obviously giving thoughts at this point.

Super is interesting but need to reread filter meh

Breshke most interests me at this moment though


STFU HE HAS THE GREATEST READ ON ME OF ALL TIME ALL TIME
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
March 20 2015 00:05 GMT
#1697
On March 20 2015 08:25 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I can wait, I'll be around at deadline.

Why is Breshke mafia for being afk and Onegu isn't?


Because breske didnt want to kill me and he mad
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 20 2015 00:08 GMT
#1698
Why is rayn under so much fire?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
March 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#1699
damdred if you were short on time why did you spend so many posts saying that artanis is silly when you already had an idea of what would be more productive?
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
March 20 2015 00:09 GMT
#1700
On March 20 2015 09:03 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2015 08:47 Trfel wrote:
Eden and Breshke, let's talk about stuff that happened 40 pages ago together! XD


I actually have a question for you.

So you were talking with toad about his palmar scum read and you were basically along the lines of you don't really see it as palmar being scummy.

I'd actually agree with toad that it is. So palmar reads toad as scum for reasons and cbf's explaining them so jsut spams kill toad. Toad gets lynched and is town. I know that you trefel are very self conscious when you are wrong even if your case is really good and you try to change things so you don't make the same mistakes.

Why then do you think that palmar isn't doing that and seemingly ignores past mistakes. Obviously you arn't the same person but would you not think that it would cross palmars mind that oh I read toad as scum for doing this and he was town. Toad is doing these things again maybe this isn't a reason to call him scum.
I don't think that the argument between Palmar and Toadesstern says much about Palmar's alignment, but I do think it suggests that Toadesstern is town. As for it not making Palmar scum, Palmar's played really lazily for many games lately (Linux, Down Under 2, etc). Palmar also really likes to use tonereads. I can understand Palmar seeing Toadesstern's opening, and remembering it being different from the heavily formatted, fancy, and pristine opening that he used in Hammertime Mafia, and saying that Toadesstern is scum for it. I wouldn't actually expect Palmar to check Toadesstern's other games here (which clearly show that Toadesstern's opening post isn't alignment indicative). And if Palmar only knows Toadesstern's play in Hammertime Mafia and this game, his scumread of Toadesstern wasn't that horrible of a play (I would still disagree, but not that horrible).

I guess the difference is probably that I have different expectations for Palmar than you and Toadesstern do.
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