Actually I had him slightly leaning town on my gdoc, just forgot to add him into the list. What I think makes him townie is how he goes after absolutely everything, but backs off when he feels like there's plausible reasons behind it like he did when he pressed me on my tone read of him. It's a weak townread though as mafia could employ a similar strategy. I just feel like the timing that he backed off on me was townish.

And I feel the way he went after you was mafiaish. His prods lead to nowhere and there's the contrast between his prods being so serious, then again he goes back to jokey stuff. Overall his play suggests he looks for potentially suspicious stuff to comment on but doesn't draw any consequences from it.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

March 19 2015 13:06 GMT

#1185

On March 19 2015 22:01 Palmar wrote:

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Because either my point is genuine and good, or it's not, and Toad's flip has nothing to do with it.

Your point could be genuine and good as either alignment. My point on Toad goes beyond what you laid out. I don't find his angry reaction to you telling, but rather the way he followed up on it. Nothing you have said has made me believe you were clearly one or the other alignment.

Damdred

15669 Posts

March 19 2015 13:17 GMT

#1186

Well I'm caught up.

Not sure what's wrong with my trfel read to you rayn it should be pretty apparent that trfel wasn't doing anything which is bad scummy for him and then started to make good posts that showed he was thinking about the game, wouldn't lynch at this point.

Art I should be higher on yours and hfs lists! Do something about this chop chop.

Cooking will be here to answer most questions

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

March 19 2015 13:19 GMT

#1187

Damdred you need to ignite your diesel man. I want to see an eden-case quality post in the next 24 hours.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 19 2015 13:21 GMT

#1188

On March 19 2015 22:17 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm caught up.

Not sure what's wrong with my trfel read to you rayn it should be pretty apparent that trfel wasn't doing anything which is bad scummy for him and then started to make good posts that showed he was thinking about the game, wouldn't lynch at this point.

Art I should be higher on yours and hfs lists! Do something about this chop chop.

Cooking will be here to answer most questions

I'm pretty sure this is on you

Vivax

22406 Posts

March 19 2015 13:22 GMT

#1189

On March 19 2015 22:17 Damdred wrote:
Well I'm caught up.

Not sure what's wrong with my trfel read to you rayn it should be pretty apparent that trfel wasn't doing anything which is bad scummy for him and then started to make good posts that showed he was thinking about the game, wouldn't lynch at this point.

Art I should be higher on yours and hfs lists! Do something about this chop chop.

Cooking will be here to answer most questions

I read ExO and doesn't seem like scum to me. Didn't read SL. Opinions on super and Toad requested. Got rayn on ice for now, ie no read.

Damdred

15669 Posts

March 19 2015 13:22 GMT

#1190

Actually I really hate superbia currently. There was this point where the pressuring on trfel looked more dickish than town to a point. Like trfels night post and super said that's it, rubbed me the wrong way I suppose bit then when trfel stayed longer and posted more super was no where to be seen. Super is angry sounding as well.. Would lynch today

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 19 2015 13:23 GMT

#1191

##vote raynpelikoneet

i'm going for the big boys

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 19 2015 13:30 GMT

#1192

caught out this obvious mafia, let's get him

Damdred

15669 Posts

March 19 2015 13:31 GMT

#1193

On March 19 2015 22:22 Vivax wrote:

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I read ExO and doesn't seem like scum to me. Didn't read SL. Opinions on super and Toad requested. Got rayn on ice for now, ie no read.

I saw this after I made my super post damdred got those mind reading abilities this game.

Toad I'm not sure I have a couple of problems with him, in his filter he's barely doing anything but going after palmar, saying he disagrees with people for x reason. The little pressure he put on SL he just stopped went back to palmar. Meh I dislike it

Vivax

22406 Posts

March 19 2015 13:32 GMT

#1194

So why should I vote rayn? Nothing that sticks out to me except that he's not omnipresent.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 19 2015 13:33 GMT

#1195

you need to just trust me vivax

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 19 2015 13:34 GMT

#1196

also the fact that he's literally only asking random pointless questions that lead nowhere and then trying to start fake shit REALLY REALLY fake shit with palmar and has all these provisional things like "let me wait for damdred and ask you questions later" crap, it's not solving game it's doing silly things to buy time and blend

Holyflare

United Kingdom30775 Posts

March 19 2015 13:35 GMT

#1197

On March 19 2015 22:34 Holyflare wrote:
also the fact that he's literally only asking random pointless questions that lead nowhere and then trying to start fake shit REALLY REALLY fake shit with palmar and has all these provisional things like "let me wait for damdred and ask you questions later" crap, it's not solving game it's doing silly things to buy time and blend

^ also this kind of gives me the heebie jeebies about artanis atm too because i feel that he is only asking questions and making obvious posts

Damdred

15669 Posts

March 19 2015 13:36 GMT

#1198

Hf I vote rayn because you are right in that assessment I feel.

Superbia

Netherlands8889 Posts

March 19 2015 13:38 GMT

#1199

Yo. Real quick, damdred is probable scum. I haven't really evaluated Vivax's alignment yet, though the whole thing looks pretty meh? I was never angry? I was having fun playing the game. Like Vivax, you even hinted to my scum game, why aren't you drawing any parallels?

So, Damdred. Our reads have lined up pretty well, as can be told from my filter. We both had HF and Palmar as town early on. And Damdred had SL and trfel as scum. I was burying SL pretty hard yesterday (admittedly, maybe a bit too hard, but let's see what he brings today) and I was pushing on trfel, who you had as scum and according to your filter, were very unsure of. How is me pushing on trfel a scummy thing when you were leaning scum on him around the same time?

Why isn't the thought process "well, I was scum-leaning on trfel as well, so I guess I can see where he's coming from"? Instead it is "trfel is town. Super pushed on him in a "dickish" way. He must be mafia". What? This doesn't line up at all with what is supposed to be your thought process. Why do we have similar reads if I'm mafia? Why am I burying SL so hard if, according to your world, we're mafia together?

Btw. I was never angry. That is such fabricated nonsense.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12972 Posts

March 19 2015 13:43 GMT

#1200

On March 19 2015 22:35 Holyflare wrote:

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^ also this kind of gives me the heebie jeebies about artanis atm too because i feel that he is only asking questions and making obvious posts

Wtf, I've townread like 9 different people all with reasoning, was the first to tr ExO, first to tr Trfel, pointed out the superbia/Trfel thing and we've been having similar thoughts throughout the game. If you actually think I can be mafia this game after Imperial and Student Mafia you are insane, scum, or don't know me very well at all.