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On March 20 2015 11:38 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 11:33 Superbia wrote:On March 20 2015 11:29 Damdred wrote: Super why are you scum reading me so intensity for scum reading you but ignore vivax scum read on you when he's only focused on you? I had you as leaning town for having similar reads, so when you sheeped the read alarm bells started going off. To be quite honest, I still don't 100% understand Vivax's read on me. It did kind of feel town, I don't really think like mafia would try to fight me. idk. so if mafia don't fight you then why are you scumreading damdred who's more actively engaging you than vivax
Eden beat me to it.
However how did vivax fight you ? He told people to explain to you you were scum
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On March 20 2015 11:50 Superbia wrote: Look.
When Vivax started his dumb tunnel on me I was annoyed, but I thought that Vivax was probably dumb town for doing it. The general tone of his posts felt sort of townie. I looked at him and the people jumping on expecting 1-2 mafia to jump on the wagon. I disliked rayn and damd's jump, so I looked at them. I probably town-read Vivax a bit too quickly looking back (I just barely woke up). Hopefully he contributes more content to the game in the remainder of this day.
Why are you still town reading vivax then if you think you did it to fast? Why give him such a long leash and yet throw scum on me even though I was somewhat asked about you.
This post also lacks a sorta conclusion which is weird meh
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You guys don't know how to read LS, if hes scum here it not because of those posts.
I'm here for the next hour roughly going to start filter diving and doing some things if anyone has any questions ask me before I get to it.
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On March 20 2015 22:04 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 22:02 Damdred wrote: You guys don't know how to read LS, if hes scum here it not because of those posts.
I'm here for the next hour roughly going to start filter diving and doing some things if anyone has any questions ask me before I get to it. Tell me more, if he's mafia it's because of which posts?
If hes mafia its because hes more lazy than usual and not digging himself rather than those list posts that he does.
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I'm getting distracted instead of reading filters in an orderly fashion. This fight between Art and VE is interesting to a degree.
Back in a bit reading filters exclusively
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On March 20 2015 20:08 Vivax wrote: I'm starting to hate this game cause there's so much offtopic to wade through, and most of it doesn't come from Alakaslam.
The most notable thing was super arguing with Eden, I found that quite townish. His questioning of Trfel doesn't quite sit right with me but he has proven to be headstrong about his own position versus Eden and for that I will not push for his lynch today
What I don't understand is why HF put rayn from 100 % scum to meh in place of SL. Or why BM is content with one post completely unrelated to the game as an excuse for not posting, looks scummish.
Going to take another look at LS and FF.
I hate this post, literally hate it with a passion.
why on earth do you find the argument between super and Eden towny? Why are you willing to drop your strongest scum read that you spent the most of your filter talking about?
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On March 20 2015 22:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 22:25 Damdred wrote: I'm getting distracted instead of reading filters in an orderly fashion. This fight between Art and VE is interesting to a degree.
Back in a bit reading filters exclusively Interesting in what way? Explain.
I think VE is probably townish for it, but doesn't have a bearing on your alignment at this point. Ve just flippin gout again
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Which btw I really hate vivax filter. Like really really hate it, free town points for anyone who can tell me why XD
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On March 20 2015 22:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 22:31 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 22:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On March 20 2015 22:25 Damdred wrote: I'm getting distracted instead of reading filters in an orderly fashion. This fight between Art and VE is interesting to a degree.
Back in a bit reading filters exclusively Interesting in what way? Explain. I think VE is probably townish for it, but doesn't have a bearing on your alignment at this point. Ve just flippin gout again I think that's bad reasoning. VE can flip out as either alignment. A good example would be LI where he and Toad bussed each other to smithereens. I also think it definitely has bearing on my alignment as I'm clearly putting myself in the spotlight though it becomes null because for some reason I have to be the one to bring that up.
Unless your claiming scum the example really doesn't apply here. VE is flipping out because of a perceived mislynch being set up on him, I don't see it currently so maybe VE is just making noise but I have to use bad reasoning for me to read him or else we end up with me scum reading VE all the time.
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Vivax is actually probably mafia for his filter and interactions in the game. His tone and actions in this game are vastly different from his normal town games even in games where he was scum read its so vastly different that he is probably scum.
The first thing I would like to draw your attention to is the activity to which Vivax is putting into the game at this point. The game is roughly 105 pages at this point after 36ish hours (probably 38 hours). Vivax has a filter of 2 1/2 pages discounting pre game discussion about game mechanics. While filter length is not always an indicator of scum, if you compare it to his town games in imperial (not as bad an example as the game is growing at a proportional rate to imperial at this time) or if you compare it to Void (day one in void) you will see the vast difference in how fast and loose Vivax is with his postings. He just doesn't have the same involvement in the game that he normally does as town.
This game Vivax takes a sidelines stance on many of the hot topics of the thread or just isn't taking part in it. For example when the slam business is going on Vivax pubically says hes not going to take a stance on it. Instead of taking a stance on the toad Palmar fiasco he just says it was an over reaction without drawing any real conclussions from it. He also has no opinion on rayn during a heated part of the thread, hes really not sticking his neck out or trying to get involved in the thread at the really heated times just really trying to blend in. IE I have Rayn on ice is what he says.
His scum hunting at this point is really generic without much push in the thread. When he has somewhat developed a scum read such as on superbia he states it and partially backs off of the read as time goes along. For example he scum reads superbia for a few posts and puts them in the thread but then moves on towards LS after he makes big LS type posts that look pretty easy to pick on. Super is still his strongest scum read and has the most reasoning behind it, when he returns to the thread he drops it over an argument that Super and Eden had over semantics? There were clear inconsitincies in what super was saying and acting in the thread during my interactions with Super and with super and eden. But they were good enough for super to drop his strongest suspect to move on to LS?
He has no real focus or push in the thread, his scum reads are pretty haphazard and he lacks the crazy drive that he normally shows as town. If you look in void or in imperial which I've already referenced before, or in Mission mafia he always is pushing people working out the scenerios in the thread driving the thread activity hes just not doing that here. Hes more subdued and letting the thread take its own course while blending in and not getting involved in the heat of the moment battles that are going on.
Compare his filter to his scum game in Storm Mafia 2 which I think was his last scum game? And it is pretty similar in length and ability to blend in and drive the thread.
Vivax is a good pick for scum here.
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That took more time then I thought.
Comment on it, I have a few chores to do now i'll be back soon
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yes my children sheep me to victory.
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On March 20 2015 23:03 rsoultin wrote: damdy un problema
namely...meta
i think you know why i'm bringing this up :/
You are correct that meta doesn't necessarily make someone mafia. It makes them more likely to fit into a certain role. However Vivax actions or inactions this game far outweigh the implication that he could be town playing differently at this juncture.
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On March 20 2015 23:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 23:05 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 23:03 rsoultin wrote: damdy un problema
namely...meta
i think you know why i'm bringing this up :/ You are correct that meta doesn't necessarily make someone mafia. It makes them more likely to fit into a certain role. However Vivax actions or inactions this game far outweigh the implication that he could be town playing differently at this juncture. i was more referring to your general allergy to meta in most of your cases lol at least when you're town ![](/mirror/smilies/wink.gif)
oh early day one meta is important i think to a degree and later on it becomes more and more dependent on in game play and discarding meta. But day one its viable in my eyes even my eden case had a bit of meta in it mostly tone and comparing it as such though
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On March 20 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 22:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Suddenly it makes sense. I kinda discarded Vivax because Rayn townread him which I have no idea why I did so. Actually noted him as slightly worrying too because he hasn't gone pants on head retarded yet which Vivax normally does. Additionally I know something extra about Vivax that makes me think he's scum but that's information I can't disclose without being a dick. Vivax is town because he goes after mafia Superbia and mafia LS. Damdred probably just bad here.
and then instantly drops superbia for bad reasoning and goes after LS who is just being ls....ooookkkkk
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On March 20 2015 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2015 23:09 Damdred wrote:On March 20 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2015 22:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Suddenly it makes sense. I kinda discarded Vivax because Rayn townread him which I have no idea why I did so. Actually noted him as slightly worrying too because he hasn't gone pants on head retarded yet which Vivax normally does. Additionally I know something extra about Vivax that makes me think he's scum but that's information I can't disclose without being a dick. Vivax is town because he goes after mafia Superbia and mafia LS. Damdred probably just bad here. and then instantly drops superbia for bad reasoning and goes after LS who is just being ls....ooookkkkk Are you mafia too because you talk about other people you think are scum than me? There is no implication in Vivax' filter he is not scumreading Superbia any more. He is just doing things other than focusing on just one person this day phase. Which is not scummy the slightest.
then get me lynched bitch
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Sorry guys really busy irl don't scun read me or vote for me. And kinda depressed so be nice while I'm gone
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Vivax...why is it that you might have three pages prior to getting pinged but right after I drop it you more than double your whole filter in a matter of hours?
That bothers me
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No that's not necessarily what I'm saying. Why were you so back of the bus before I pinged you. Obviously you had all this going on and thoughts but you weren't posting?
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Either way I'm ok lynching into these three people today.
Super/vivax/rayn
I'd prefer vrayn or vivax I think.
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