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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
Breshke (5) sicklucker, ritoky (2): Toadesstern, Damdred Fecalfeast (2): Breshke, Onegu (0): Not Voting (1): ritoky Currently, Breshke is set to be executed. Day 5 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Voting is mandatory and in this thread. You may NOT abstain. Posting after the deadline and prior to flip is subject to a modkill. | ||
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Trfel
7015 Posts
I will be gone until after End of Day, though I might be able to get back shortly before it. If Breshke isn't lynched today, there had better be really good reasons why. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On April 02 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote: Notes on Breshke
I will be gone until after End of Day, though I might be able to get back shortly before it. If Breshke isn't lynched today, there had better be really good reasons why. I remember that. It was extra weird because he just mislynched me in jack of all trades and pretty much threw the game. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 02 2015 05:00 Trfel wrote: Notes on Breshke
I will be gone until after End of Day, though I might be able to get back shortly before it. If Breshke isn't lynched today, there had better be really good reasons why. First dotpoint I said that my eden and rso townread probably didnt matter at that point because they were obvious town and most people recognized that. So when rso asked meif i was caught up ii felt weak just bringing that to the table. Its true i did like two of slams posts and its also true that i can't read him. These two things do not have to be mutually exclusive. I liked the posts but history has shown i am bad at reading him. I asked eden about HF/slam because it really felt like 2 town fighting which i believe i stated in the thread. This as because they were having a shitfight and no one in the thead interfered they just let it happen which is more likely to happen with towns than mafia. Once again i asked eden about it because he was a townread of mine and because i can not read slam very well. I ask questions to form my own opinions. Second Dotpoint This is true and i didn't push it later and I thought you would understand why since it was because of you and our discussion about it. This is the post that largley changed my mind. On March 20 2015 09:09 Trfel wrote: I don't think that the argument between Palmar and Toadesstern says much about Palmar's alignment, but I do think it suggests that Toadesstern is town. As for it not making Palmar scum, Palmar's played really lazily for many games lately (Linux, Down Under 2, etc). Palmar also really likes to use tonereads. I can understand Palmar seeing Toadesstern's opening, and remembering it being different from the heavily formatted, fancy, and pristine opening that he used in Hammertime Mafia, and saying that Toadesstern is scum for it. I wouldn't actually expect Palmar to check Toadesstern's other games here (which clearly show that Toadesstern's opening post isn't alignment indicative). And if Palmar only knows Toadesstern's play in Hammertime Mafia and this game, his scumread of Toadesstern wasn't that horrible of a play (I would still disagree, but not that horrible). I guess the difference is probably that I have different expectations for Palmar than you and Toadesstern do. Third dotpoint This is because the second i seemed to be defending SL he instantly townd me. This gave me bad vibes. Also you saying the wagons were "equal" is jsut purposely trying to make it look worse than it was. They were equal at THREE votes which included my vote. You don't even assess who they were equal too at this point so im not sure how you are even trying to use that. Voting for siclucker was to put him under pressure because Robik seemed to be able to read him best then so i wanted to give it a go. Fourth Dotpoint I have no fucking idea what post you are reffering to or how what you are trying to explain even makes me mafia. I like a couple posts from someone but i know i can't read them. I ask someone who is town reading them to explain their read. How is this scummy??? 5th Dotpoint The answer is literally in the quote above. I expressed a willlingness to lynch LS ONCE which was during the vig claims. Rso then came out with a read about his list post being a thought dump which i agreed with and probably tended to trust her more since her magical out of nowhere scum read on him in her first game. Sixth Dotpoint I don't even know where to begin with this one. I don't believe i did this?? Could you show me where? On March 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote: LS voted for vivax so that is intresting On March 22 2015 12:03 Breshke wrote: I think it should be Exo. LS constantly reads him town for meta reasons which is normal but it never really made sense to me. This is pregame but obviously LS has high expectations for exo yet somehow meta reads him as town when he hasn't actually done much of anything. So He also randomly backs off of the townread randomly for no reason even though he had never shown doubt on it before. If you are reffering to these posts this isnt me calling LS scum it is trying to find hints at scum in his filter which directly contradicts your later statement that i "dance around the flipped scum". That phrase in itself is bullshit because you make it sound like i am trying to avoid talking about them when i jsut straight up havnt talked about them instead. I don't see how you can be reading me as scum for any of this especially since you said my first few pages were really bad and it is actually really annoying that this is why you are going to jump on my wagon. If you had made a post like this ealier or as a non confirmed and people actually cared about this flip (im not blaming anyone since ive been just as bad most of the game) youd probably get lynched for it. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
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Vivax
22406 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?page=90#1782 and tell me you aren't super waffly on Palmar. You put him into scum lean, then say you agree with toad that what he does is scummy and in the same post say that it doesn't say anything about palmar's alignment, only Toads. | ||
Fecalfeast
Canada11355 Posts
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Vivax
22406 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I kinda wanna lynch FF over Breshke since Breshke actually seems to want to do stuff and I have not seen that inclination from FF. I got the feeling he's doing waaaaay more now than what he was doing on his own when he wasn't under suspicion. Would have to weigh his activity by day to be sure. | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12972 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:19 Vivax wrote: I got the feeling he's doing waaaaay more now than what he was doing on his own when he wasn't under suspicion. Would have to weigh his activity by day to be sure. I don't think that's necessarily alignment indicative though. Superbia was p much the same and he flipped town. | ||
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Vivax
22406 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:21 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't think that's necessarily alignment indicative though. Superbia was p much the same and he flipped town. I disagree, he wasn't. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:17 Vivax wrote: Bresh it's a good try but read this post for example: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?page=90#1782 and tell me you aren't super waffly on Palmar. You put him into scum lean, then say you agree with toad that what he does is scummy and in the same post say that it doesn't say anything about palmar's alignment, only Toads. Vivax you are reading the bit with fucked up quotes as shit i said. Thats stuff trefel said which made me flip my read on palmar + Show Spoiler + I don't like the him and toad interaction. Scum reading toad for something he has scum read him for before. Toad flipped town in the game where this happened before which seemingly doesn't phase palmar. If he was town i think he would reconsider his approach. I don't have much confidence with this though as i wasn't involved in that game and people who were and that I am also reading town (trefel) do not agree with me which gives me pause. See this post specifically. The stuff in the spoiler is the only stuff i actually wrote in that post that isnt apart of a quote. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Look into lynching FF and ritoky next. Look hard into damdred. Fairly sure onegu is town but look into that aswell. | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
Look at the narrative of Rayn claiming Tracker and then claiming on vivax who had gotten blocked. This is excellent for mafia because if he was tracked it would make perfect sense for him to visit Vivax as a role. Look at the over aggression that Rayn is showing towards the thread. Ritoky is totally tunneled which is a mafia trait of his, he isn't jokey or really fun this thread either. He also is afk during a portion fo the lynches that are most important compare it to say Down under when he would go afk around lynch so he wouldn't be accountable during shenanigans. He is also not doing much and when asked to do work he didn't do it and just afk'd instead. This is ritoksy scum meta folks. Lynch him today | ||
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Vivax
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Vivax
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:32 Vivax wrote: Bresh why did you stop pushing the notion that ExO was mafia since you didn't believe his claim at the start? I realised how dumb his claim would have been as scum. If he was a actual mafia role cop he couldn't have got that check on rso or even if he was fake cop claiming roles why would he say that she was VT. Iirc once i got past the intial wtf stage it was more obvious that exo was not fake claiming. | ||
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Vivax
22406 Posts
On April 02 2015 06:39 Breshke wrote: I realised how dumb his claim would have been as scum. If he was a actual mafia role cop he couldn't have got that check on rso or even if he was fake cop claiming roles why would he say that she was VT. Iirc once i got past the intial wtf stage it was more obvious that exo was not fake claiming. Do you think Toad could be mafia? | ||
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Breshke
Australia3749 Posts
Yes | ||
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